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ProgKing of the North
ProgKing of the North
Bro you're doing that thing Reddit does where they go HEY THIS GUY YOU AGREED WITH ABOUT A THING IS A DRUMPH SUPPORTER
Iwasamwillbe
Iwasamwillbe
Except it's different here because Cosmos specifically thanked Ashy for "breaking up" a supposed monotony in A&H.
Iwasamwillbe
Iwasamwillbe
And she still hasn't answered my question, so I could better understand where she was coming from.
ProgKing of the North
ProgKing of the North
Yeah, an open leftist absolutely does break up the largely right-wing A&H (for better or worse). There's tons of far-right posters there, I don't see why one far lefty rustles your jimmies. (And no, despite what you might think I'm not far left, and I don't believe that Cosmos is either). If one of our pol-type posters says something you agree with, do you feel it necessary to disavow their Jew-sperging?
Iwasamwillbe
Iwasamwillbe
Ashy doesn't "rustle my jimmies" any more than the /pol/-types do. I don't find the need to disavow the /pol/-types because I don't go out of my way to congratulate them for their verbal vomit, unlike Cosmos.
Cosmos
Cosmos
@Iwasamwillbe I didn't see your comment earlier. And I agree with Ashy on things like universal healthcare, not liking Trump, and calling out far-right hypocrisy. That doesn't mean I support Antifa. And yes, A&H is absolutely a right-wing (arguably far-right) circlejerk so it's nice to see an open leftist state their opinions, even if I don't always agree with them.
Iwasamwillbe
Iwasamwillbe
I heavily disagree with universal healthcare, but I do see where you are coming from now.
Iwasamwillbe
Iwasamwillbe
Wait why do you dislike Trump again?
Cosmos
Cosmos
I dislike Trump because I heavily disagree with his policies (especially in regards to rolling back environmental protections, his climate change denial, his plans to cut funding for social programs, and his trade war with China ). I also think his behavior is really embarrassing and has done a lot of damage to America's international credibility.
Cosmos
Cosmos
I also just think he's a huge hypocrite in general (which, to be fair, describes basically all politicians but he's really bad about it) and that he doesn't know what the fuck he's doing.
Iwasamwillbe
Iwasamwillbe
I think the first three things are mostly irrelevant, and the fourth (the trade war) will actually benefit the US overall. He also isn't a hypocrite and anybody thinking he's just flailing around clearly isn't paying attention.
Iwasamwillbe
Iwasamwillbe
And LMAO at seriously thinking that "international credibility" is or was ever a meaningful concept in a world where Saudi Arabia is on the UN's human rights council.
Cosmos
Cosmos
"the first three things are mostly irrelevant" Dude, are you serious? Environmental destruction and the very real possibility of vulnerable people not getting the help they need is "mostly irrelevant"? I happen to care very much about the environment because we only have one planet and we need to protect it.
Cosmos
Cosmos
Aside from climate change, manmade pollution and habitat destruction is causing a ton of problems and scientists say we're currently in the midst of a mass extinction event. The regulations and protections Trump's administration are rolling back are heavily needed to prevent further harm to the natural world for the sake of short-term profits.
Cosmos
Cosmos
As for social programs, I strongly believe that a successful, strong nation is one that takes care of its citizens. If any budget needs to be cut, it's our bloated military spending and not things like Medicare and food stamps which help the needy.
Cosmos
Cosmos
Cosmos
Cosmos
And "international credibility" is a big deal when Trump continues to alienate our allies and makes it harder to forge new alliances. He's needlessly inflammatory and his thoughtless comments reflect really poorly on us as a nation.
Iwasamwillbe
Iwasamwillbe
1. Even assuming that the threat of climate change isn't way overblown (I'm certainly not seeing any of this "mass-extinction" we're supposedly in the midst of), if we can't get China and India, and developing countries around the world, to cut back on (for example) coal usage, no environmental policy we adopt will mean much of anything. This isn't even getting into many other things that complicate even further.
Iwasamwillbe
Iwasamwillbe
2. Manmade pollution is a problem, yes, and habitat destruction may also be a problem sometimes. But again, China and India and other developing countries do most of the pollution, not the US or the West (we have laws against pollution and much regulation against habitat destruction), so to complain as if pollution is still a widespread problem in the West is little more than hand-wringing.
Iwasamwillbe
Iwasamwillbe
3. This idea that the only way a government can take care of its citizens is basically through welfare is dumb. We already put massive amounts of money into welfare as it is, and all it has done is make various individuals and groups dependent on the state, while many others abuse state welfare.

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