08/10/2016 - Phil Autistically Re-Writes Lords Prayer To Say He's Coming For Tweaker With Machete - Trans Lifeline Founder Greta Gustava Supports This

Smutley

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The last guy who tried to use "First Amendment" to justify writing lyrics on facebook about wanting to murder his ex was a white male domestic abuser.

You know, just like Phil.
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obliviousbeard

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Phil in nuthouse saga when? Surely this kinda posting combined with his general behaviour implies that someone should intervene before Phil might hurt himself trying to kick doors. This kinda chest thumping is just silly.
 
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So, after Greta visits Null he suddenly had this brilliant idea?
ADF is such a lazy attention whore, he only copies better cows. Now besides copying CWC he will copy any ratking member that gets super famous. All for attention, it's not even about asspats anymore.
 

ChurchOfGodBear

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Phil in nuthouse saga when? Surely this kinda posting combined with his general behaviour implies that someone should intervene before Phil might hurt himself trying to kick doors. This kinda chest thumping is just silly.
Phil being tossed in jail and/or the nuthouse would be just as much a benefit to him as to anyone else. A daily shower and some medication would help him chill the fuck out. Sadly, it can't make him any smarter.
 

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Threats like these have been protected by the Supreme Court as free speech. It's the same reason Body Count could get away with writing songs like Cop Killer, because it's considered fictional and a work of art.

Phil's isn't a work of art, it's autistic posturing that he's certain will get leaked here. It's not a death threat as much as it is literal domestic terrorism. He is attempting, however poorly, to terrorize Tweaker and make him afraid that it could happen.

Which, once again, does nothing because Tweaker isn't scared of him, we're not scared of him, his ever dwindling friends list thinks he's an insane and violent lunatic. His only supporters are Richard Jones, someone he forgot he banned from his friends list twice, and Greta Gustava, someone who knows he's not a pretty latina and is trying to use him as an accessory to prop up her failing organization.
 

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Something must have pushed Phil over the edge into serious derangement and mental illness. He's always been edgy but this is another fucking level.
Since Trump is behind in the polls right now, I would say that this is related to Phil's SSDI review coming up. He's terrified more of that than anything because that could actually affect how he lives his day-to-day "life".
 

Four-Wheeled Fedora

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Threats like these have been protected by the Supreme Court as free speech. It's the same reason Body Count could get away with writing songs like Cop Killer, because it's considered fictional and a work of art.

Phil's isn't a work of art, it's autistic posturing that he's certain will get leaked here. It's not a death threat as much as it is literal domestic terrorism. He is attempting, however poorly, to terrorize Tweaker and make him afraid that it could happen.

Which, once again, does nothing because Tweaker isn't scared of him, we're not scared of him, his ever dwindling friends list thinks he's an insane and violent lunatic. His only supporters are Richard Jones, someone he forgot he banned from his friends list twice, and Greta Gustava, someone who knows he's not a pretty latina and is trying to use him as an accessory to prop up her failing organization.

This is a threat directed at a specific person and I don't really see how a reasonable person would view it as hyperbole given that Phil has been posting about wanting to own an actual machete for months, in addition to claims of having done violence to other individuals recently. This really seems like it's not protected speech, but I haven't looked at all the case law on the matter.
 

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Threats like these have been protected by the Supreme Court as free speech. It's the same reason Body Count could get away with writing songs like Cop Killer, because it's considered fictional and a work of art.
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I don't know if Cop Killer puts Phil in the clear legally. The song was published and intended for public consumption, this is directed specifically at an individual. The law tends to look differently on threatening people rather than groups. Say you want to kill cops, you'll get a pass. Say you want to kill Muldoon who lives two blocks over, you might be having a chat.
 

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This is a threat directed at a specific person and I don't really see how a reasonable person would view it as hyperbole given that Phil has been posting about wanting to own an actual machete for months, in addition to claims of having done violence to other individuals recently. This really seems like it's not protected speech, but I haven't looked at all the case law on the matter.

http://q13fox.com/2015/06/01/suprem...man-convicted-of-posting-threats-on-facebook/

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Yes I know posting this will now make Phil add "this is a parody" and "these are just silly lyrics that happen to relate to tweaker" on all his threatening messages, but what does it matter? He's hemorrhaging friends and the ones who haven't bailed are talking about him behind his back. Many of them are Kiwis taking screen captures. He's only hanging himself with more line because the cops might not care, but the SSDI review board will when they decide he needs a payee.
 

Four-Wheeled Fedora

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http://q13fox.com/2015/06/01/suprem...man-convicted-of-posting-threats-on-facebook/

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Yes I know posting this will now make Phil add "this is a parody" and "these are just silly lyrics that happen to relate to tweaker" on all his threatening messages, but what does it matter? He's hemorrhaging friends and the ones who haven't bailed are talking about him behind his back. Many of them are Kiwis taking screen captures. He's only hanging himself with more line because the cops might not care, but the SSDI review board will when they decide he needs a payee.

I think the difference here is that there is a demonstrable mens rea where in the Elonis case there wasn't. Phil has actively sought to secure the materials necessary to perpetrate this exact crime in addition to scouting out the location. Elonis modified some lyrics or something, Phil has actually taken steps (or represented himself as having taken steps) to commit this crime. I should have prefaced this by saying that I paid zero attention in crim law and I spent about 5 minutes reading up on the Elonis case, but to me there are obvious differences.
 

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Did he take that picture at the range himself? The owners of a gun range would not take kindly at all to learning about this kind of person on their premises.

No, that's Greta Gustava, the leader of non profit charity scam organization Trans Lifeline. She lives in Chicago and is doing her absolute best to tank her entire organization because she was suckered into helping Phil and Richard Jones
 

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Did he take that picture at the range himself? The owners of a gun range would not take kindly at all to learning about this kind of person on their premises.

That doesn't look like Phil at all, the hair's all wrong. According to the tag, it's the TransLifeline con man in the shot, not Phil.

I should have prefaced this by saying that I paid zero attention in crim law and I spent about 5 minutes reading up on the Elonis case, but to me there are obvious differences.
No, you're spot-on here. The only defense I can think of is something along the lines of "given Phil's :autism: and history of empty threats, in-context this threat should not be taken seriously". And ironically, Elonis weakens that defense-the "reasonable observer" standard might extend to mitigating factors, while specific intent doesn't have to.
 

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