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Male Idiot

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Well I can say for certain he plays Reaper in Overwatch and listens to death metal too and yelled" Satan Rocks" near a church. Oh and watches Rick and Morty.

Nazis got cool uniform and making adults and sissies freak out so its every 12year old's wet dream. Wet like the bloody edge of a katana!

Wait until he learns about drawing dicks on stuff, he will get mysoggyknees too.
 

Duke Nukem

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What did he go to jail for?
The charges were:

Kidnapping
Terroristic Threats
Assault on Female
Assault by Strangulation

He only got convicted of Assault by Strangulation, only did 8 months in prison and left the country. I actually believe I mentioned him in the school stories thread.

Last I heard he was studying veterinary medicine in Canada.
 

vanilla_pepsi_head

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God damn, talk about feeding the trolls. Tons of 12 year olds draw swastikas and dicks. They aren't making a philosophical statement or social commentary, they do it to make their friends laugh and piss people off, and this kid's idiot friends probably consider him a legend for rustling the jimmies of this many people. I could maybe understand calling it an "anti-Semitic crime" if he followed a Jewish kid home and spray painted it on his house, but this is pretty typical kid shit. They could have told him to quit fucking around and explained that Nazi shit is taken very seriously, but the thing is - it fucking isn't. People call anyone they don't like or agree with a Nazi and say random politicians are "worse than Hitler" all the time. And trying to explain why a hate crime is so much worse than a regular crime? I can't think of a way to do it that wouldn't set off a 12 year old's bullshit detector.

I am disturbed by the fact that actual police are wasting their time on this, and I can't think of many ways it could possibly have been handled worse.
 

Duke Nukem

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I had never heard of this, and I can't quickly find evidence that it exists outside of North Carolina, but it is a real charge. Learn something new every day on the KiwiFarms.
And you would be correct, it did happen in NC allegedly. Assault by Strangulation is also an NC charge as far as I know. Might exist in other states in that context, I'm no legal eagle but I'm just saying it might.
 

Far Queue

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I was wondering why this story seemed to drop off the radar. The NY Times has an article from two days ago that has some new details: https://www.nytimes.com/2019/03/07/nyregion/swastikas-playground-nyc-anti-semitism.html

At some point during the winter break last month, someone covered the playground of a public school in the Rego Park section of Queens with swastikas and other anti-Semitic sentiments. Either poor spellers or unfamiliar with the exact phrasing of the Nazi salute, whoever was responsible inscribed the words “Hail Hiter” on the ground in chalk.

Several days later, two boys were arrested and charged with aggravated harassment. They came from the neighborhood, one that has long been predominantly white and Jewish but grown more diverse in recent years with an influx of Asian immigrants.

After the initial arrest, the Police Department’s chief of detectives, Dermot Shea, quickly took to Twitter to commend the “great job” accomplished by his colleagues in the hate-crimes unit he oversees and to say that “no matter the face of hate,” New York will exhibit “ZERO tolerance” for it.

In this case the face of hate was the face of two children of color — one black, the other Asian — who were 12 years old.

The incident occurred within the context of rising anti-Semitic crimes in the city and around the country, which is surely why law enforcement felt compelled to advertise such a negligible victory in the war against prejudice.

There have already been close to 40 such cases in New York this year, a nearly twofold increase over the same period last year. Neither the police department nor community leaders in the affected neighborhoods have determined the reason for the upsurge. Surely the bigotry that has been making more frequent appearances on the American stage since the Trump years is partly to blame.

Whatever the cause, it seems fairly clear that arresting 12-year-olds, especially at a time when criminal justice reform has concentrated on diverting young minorities from the system, cannot be considered a solution. There were many other forms a meaningful consequence could have taken.

When I spoke with local politicians and heads of Jewish groups around the city, none thought the boys should have been taken in. (They were arraigned in family court and remanded to the custody of their families until further proceedings.)

“Do you remember the song from ‘South Pacific,’ ‘you have to be taught to hate?’” asked Toby Ann Stavisky, a state senator representing the relevant district in Queens. “These children were taught to hate, and I’d be very interested to learn where they learned to hate.”

Or perhaps we might also wonder if and where they learned that it is perfectly fine to express a mischievous, rebellious or playful side through the use of such cruel and divisive imagery. This generation of children has grown up with constant screen time, inundated with an endless stream of images that eventually renders many of those visual signifiers meaningless, where Nazi symbolism is just processed as more cartoonish provocation.

Just this week during an assembly at Sidwell Friends, the progressive Quaker school in Washington from which Chelsea Clinton and Malia Obama graduated, a student participating in a trivia contest flashed a user name consisting of two swastikas onto a screen visible to the whole auditorium. It was not the first time that swastikas have shown up at the school in recent months.

And in Orange County, Calif., a group of high-school students came under fire for building a swastika out of red, plastic beer cups during a drinking game at a party. Were they bilious members of the alt-right?

When one participant apologized on social media, she said that she considered what she and her friends had done as “a joke” and “not a big deal,” until photos of the incident went viral and they realized the seriousness of their antics.

The contemporary school environment emphasizes diversity and inclusion to a point unprecedented in history. Children are put in restorative circles and taught to love and respect one another, to make up and never to antagonize, tease, bully or invalidate. But do these conceptualizations stand up to the corrective lessons of history?

New York is one of a number of states in which Holocaust education is mandated, but the general shift toward a greater focus on science, technology and mathematics and away from the humanities, happening across the education system and around the country, has pushed certain subjects and ideas dangerously into the rearview.

Last year a study conducted by the Conference on Jewish Material Claims Against Germany, for example, interviewed 1,350 American adults and found that 66 percent of millennial respondents could not identify Auschwitz as a concentration camp.

Even if the two boys arrested in Queens are guilty, we may never know whether they understood the weight of their actions, or whether what they were doing was an act born of loathing or stupidity. We do know that the school where the defacements occurred will conduct a read-aloud of “A Picture Book of Anne Frank,” and have students create stenciled murals “around positive messages about diversity and inclusiveness, including around religion,” according to the city’s Department of Education.

In big cities where neighborhood demographics are so often changing and gentrification is often compelling those changes, a truly holistic approach to preventing acts of racial and ethnic bias would involve whole communities — children and their parents — coming together to learn about one another’s cultures, habits, histories, tastes, ambitions, doctrines, similarities. The process would be proactive rather than responsive.

The police would keep from reflexively criminalizing ignorance. Officers would do more than hand out fliers and teach communities how to report hate crimes, which is where New York City’s police department places much of its emphasis. It would look at tensions — the broken windows between different groups, so to speak — and try to repair them.

No white kids involved, so time to pack it up and forget it ever happened. Even the author of this piece is trying to downplay their actions now.

Bonus points to @Foxxo for calling it a week ago:

I was kinda hoping this would be another hate crime hoax, only this time by some African-American or Jewish kid. It's possible, seeing how they chose not to bring race into the article.
Half right, but who would have honestly expected an Asian kid kicker on this one. No idea why they did it yet either, so hate crime hoax is still a possibility.
 

Save the Loli

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Shouldn't be surprising. Asians are honorary Aryans and Hitler was totally bros with China before he became bros with Japan. And lots of black leaders like Louis Farrakhan and the Black Hebrew Israelite community love Hitler. Plus black men are the white people of black people so of course there's lots of black Nazis out there.

 
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Jmz_33

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Is anyone else reminded of that kid who got arrested for sitting down during the pledge of allegiance. It’s like the opposite side of the exceptional political spectrum.
 
That at least warrants a serious look at what the hell this sixth grader is doing with his life, and whether he's just a stupid edgelord or a actual literal Nazi.
If you actually believe that a sixth grader can be an "actual literal" anything you're rеtarded.

Children can identify as anything and unless they're doing something actually tangibly bad, they're just kids being rebellious kids.
 
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Stab You in the Back

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New York has mandatory holocaust classes.
In spite of such classes, some kid still drew nazi graffiti all over his playground.
The NYT journalist's proposed solution to nazi graffiti is... more holocaust classes?

How much holocaust education should we push on children before we realize that no hate crime was committed due to a lack of holocaust education, and no hate crime was prevented by holocaust education.
 

NerdShamer

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New York has mandatory holocaust classes.
In spite of such classes, some kid still drew nazi graffiti all over his playground.
The NYT journalist's proposed solution to nazi graffiti is... more holocaust classes?

How much holocaust education should we push on children before we realize that no hate crime was committed due to a lack of holocaust education, and no hate crime was prevented by holocaust education.
So what are they teaching in journalism nowadays? Because it feels that critical thinking isn't on the curriculum.
 

kidatari

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I was wondering why this story seemed to drop off the radar. The NY Times has an article from two days ago that has some new details: https://www.nytimes.com/2019/03/07/nyregion/swastikas-playground-nyc-anti-semitism.html

At some point during the winter break last month, someone covered the playground of a public school in the Rego Park section of Queens with swastikas and other anti-Semitic sentiments. Either poor spellers or unfamiliar with the exact phrasing of the Nazi salute, whoever was responsible inscribed the words “Hail Hiter” on the ground in chalk.

Several days later, two boys were arrested and charged with aggravated harassment. They came from the neighborhood, one that has long been predominantly white and Jewish but grown more diverse in recent years with an influx of Asian immigrants.

After the initial arrest, the Police Department’s chief of detectives, Dermot Shea, quickly took to Twitter to commend the “great job” accomplished by his colleagues in the hate-crimes unit he oversees and to say that “no matter the face of hate,” New York will exhibit “ZERO tolerance” for it.

In this case the face of hate was the face of two children of color — one black, the other Asian — who were 12 years old.

The incident occurred within the context of rising anti-Semitic crimes in the city and around the country, which is surely why law enforcement felt compelled to advertise such a negligible victory in the war against prejudice.

There have already been close to 40 such cases in New York this year, a nearly twofold increase over the same period last year. Neither the police department nor community leaders in the affected neighborhoods have determined the reason for the upsurge. Surely the bigotry that has been making more frequent appearances on the American stage since the Trump years is partly to blame.

Whatever the cause, it seems fairly clear that arresting 12-year-olds, especially at a time when criminal justice reform has concentrated on diverting young minorities from the system, cannot be considered a solution. There were many other forms a meaningful consequence could have taken.

When I spoke with local politicians and heads of Jewish groups around the city, none thought the boys should have been taken in. (They were arraigned in family court and remanded to the custody of their families until further proceedings.)

“Do you remember the song from ‘South Pacific,’ ‘you have to be taught to hate?’” asked Toby Ann Stavisky, a state senator representing the relevant district in Queens. “These children were taught to hate, and I’d be very interested to learn where they learned to hate.”

Or perhaps we might also wonder if and where they learned that it is perfectly fine to express a mischievous, rebellious or playful side through the use of such cruel and divisive imagery. This generation of children has grown up with constant screen time, inundated with an endless stream of images that eventually renders many of those visual signifiers meaningless, where Nazi symbolism is just processed as more cartoonish provocation.

Just this week during an assembly at Sidwell Friends, the progressive Quaker school in Washington from which Chelsea Clinton and Malia Obama graduated, a student participating in a trivia contest flashed a user name consisting of two swastikas onto a screen visible to the whole auditorium. It was not the first time that swastikas have shown up at the school in recent months.

And in Orange County, Calif., a group of high-school students came under fire for building a swastika out of red, plastic beer cups during a drinking game at a party. Were they bilious members of the alt-right?

When one participant apologized on social media, she said that she considered what she and her friends had done as “a joke” and “not a big deal,” until photos of the incident went viral and they realized the seriousness of their antics.

The contemporary school environment emphasizes diversity and inclusion to a point unprecedented in history. Children are put in restorative circles and taught to love and respect one another, to make up and never to antagonize, tease, bully or invalidate. But do these conceptualizations stand up to the corrective lessons of history?

New York is one of a number of states in which Holocaust education is mandated, but the general shift toward a greater focus on science, technology and mathematics and away from the humanities, happening across the education system and around the country, has pushed certain subjects and ideas dangerously into the rearview.

Last year a study conducted by the Conference on Jewish Material Claims Against Germany, for example, interviewed 1,350 American adults and found that 66 percent of millennial respondents could not identify Auschwitz as a concentration camp.

Even if the two boys arrested in Queens are guilty, we may never know whether they understood the weight of their actions, or whether what they were doing was an act born of loathing or stupidity. We do know that the school where the defacements occurred will conduct a read-aloud of “A Picture Book of Anne Frank,” and have students create stenciled murals “around positive messages about diversity and inclusiveness, including around religion,” according to the city’s Department of Education.

In big cities where neighborhood demographics are so often changing and gentrification is often compelling those changes, a truly holistic approach to preventing acts of racial and ethnic bias would involve whole communities — children and their parents — coming together to learn about one another’s cultures, habits, histories, tastes, ambitions, doctrines, similarities. The process would be proactive rather than responsive.

The police would keep from reflexively criminalizing ignorance. Officers would do more than hand out fliers and teach communities how to report hate crimes, which is where New York City’s police department places much of its emphasis. It would look at tensions — the broken windows between different groups, so to speak — and try to repair them.

No white kids involved, so time to pack it up and forget it ever happened. Even the author of this piece is trying to downplay their actions now.

Bonus points to @Foxxo for calling it a week ago:



Half right, but who would have honestly expected an Asian kid kicker on this one. No idea why they did it yet either, so hate crime hoax is still a possibility.
two kids who are not white and BAM!! the story vanishes
race bating garbage MSM
and no wonder they are slowly losing support and dying
 

Far Queue

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New York has mandatory holocaust classes.
In spite of such classes, some kid still drew nazi graffiti all over his playground.
The NYT journalist's proposed solution to nazi graffiti is... more holocaust classes?

How much holocaust education should we push on children before we realize that no hate crime was committed due to a lack of holocaust education, and no hate crime was prevented by holocaust education.
It would be funny if they learned about all the slogans and imagery in those classes, which could well be likely. The zealotry to find some instance of widespread white supremacy is leading to all kinds of unintended consequences, which are rather amusing.

It's probably a little bit like DARE or other anti-drug classes that bored the shit out of the kids who can tell when they're being preached to and want to rebel against it. Just teach it in history class like every other atrocity instead of trying to put it on some kind of pedestal.
 

Alec Benson Leary

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Yeah, where oh where would a kid learn that nazis were historical bad guys and their symbology triggers the hell out of some people. I can't imagine where a kid would have heard about hitler, it's not as if people are screaming about neo-nazis everywhere...
To be fair, do you really believe that listening to social media and pop culture whining about nazis is a good way to learn about the nazis? Because I don't think most of those people know much about the nazis.
 
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