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autisticdragonkin

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Notifications are pulling me back into this thread and it is a quality thread so I don't want to unwatch it

I still allow for involuntary psychiatric commitment which is not done by the criminal justice system and thus allows the institutionalization of an extremely unstable potentially violent individual but they are not liable for criminal charges unless they actually commited a crime
 

AnOminous

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If you can charge someone for planning to commit a crime then it means that they are unable to look over their plan and realize that they should just not commit the crime
Except that's wrong. The law of conspiracy contains the concept of a locus poenitentiae, a time and place before which the mere plan to commit a crime with others constitutes a prosecutable conspiracy or attempt. This time and place is before any overt act is committed in furtherance of the conspiracy. After that, the crime is in motion.
 

autisticdragonkin

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Except that's wrong. The law of conspiracy contains the concept of a locus poenitentiae, a time and place before which the mere plan to commit a crime with others constitutes a prosecutable conspiracy or attempt. This time and place is before any overt act is committed in furtherance of the conspiracy. After that, the crime is in motion.
Would it be chargeable when the participants are still able to realistically decide not to go through with it
 

AnOminous

So what?
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Would it be chargeable when the participants are still able to realistically decide not to go through with it
That's before the overt act. Without that, the incentive never to engage in a conspiracy is seriously weakened. To pull out of a conspiracy at that point requires concrete acts that demonstrate withdrawal from the conspiracy.
 

Handsome Pete

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Hey, I got to the end of this thread, and the posts just above me didn't really give me a lot to react to. So to keep this grisly fate from befalling another, I'll provide a writing prompt.

Prompt: How do you feel about hash browns?

Good luck, next poster!
 

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autisticdragonkin

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That's before the overt act. Without that, the incentive never to engage in a conspiracy is seriously weakened. To pull out of a conspiracy at that point requires concrete acts that demonstrate withdrawal from the conspiracy.
And if someone engages in concrete acts to withdraw are they no longer chargeable
 
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