2014-Oct-14 - Thetan's Email -

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http://cwckiforums.com/threads/one-of-chriss-friends-has-a-change-of-attitude.5326/#post-369604

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I received this email a few days ago from a friend who happens to be a friend of someone who knows Chris. They thought I might find it interesting and I thought the forum would too.

One caveat though. Please limit discussion to the content of the email. Any drama or unnecessary speculation regarding the identity of the parties involved will result in my locking the thread (and if I don't do it, one of the staff most likely will). The contents of the email are interesting enough and should provoke a thoughtful (and intelligent) discussion.

If you think you may know the identity of the email source, kindly keep it to yourself.

Anyway, here's the email.

I have been in almost disbelief as to Christians latest antics to be honest; and I am seeing a lot of things that I didn't notice before. For example; hes making a lot of money off Ebay, got a new car and his mom has been rolling in a BMW, yet hes getting govt money? That is the tugboat he talks about isnt it? yet with the additional income I bet his benefits have not been reduced.

I don't agree that a site like CWCki should target someone, but I have also come to understand that it also highlights what antics he does and more or less he brings the rain down on his own parade. I think he likes the attention and uses it as a crutch to blame his behavior on. Its obvious to me he has lost his god damn mind with this transgender lesbian my little pony fucked a muppet non sense, and I think he should be checked into somewhere cause hes just not right in the head,

That video he posted to youtube with him singing and apologizing for blowing his stack cause some dude went somewhere with his girlfriend...gal pal...sweetheart, was one of the saddest things i have ever seen. It was a real peek into a world i want no part of. I guess having defended him all these years, I took a hard look and thought " if that was someone I didnt know, the warning bells would be ringing".

But I am being honest when i say that I really do think its pathetic that he has money for fucking legos, and games and the rest of this crap and a new car ....while on the govt dime. that's a problem, so, yea no real complaints here from me,

You know to keep my name out of it all,,,,but keep me in the loop.

 

[regularjohn]

As we always say, you either die a white knight, or live long enough to see yourself become a troll. From what I cant tell, he's been in chris's corner for a while, But the Ivy-saga-esque video finally pushed him over the edge.

I also just remembered chris still gets his tugboat after all this. How much does he and his mother get every month now?

 

[4Macie]

"my little pony fucked a muppet non sense" this is the best way to describe what's going on right now. Thank you, anonymous angel.

 

[slep]

It's a well-known fact that when Chris loses a friend, it's not from the meddling of trolls, but simply from that person seeing Chris being Chris.

 

[Ruckersvillian]

Well, it might be a tad simplistic to say that you're either a "white knight" or a "troll". It's possible to not defend Chris' crazy antic while not out and out trolling him like one of the "weens".

And yes...like I've said before (not to derail into politics): I'm a supporter of welfare, but honestly - seeing Chris beg for money while he spends freely on Lego and Beamers brings out the recessive Republican out in me.

 

[Sweet and Savoury]

Ok I have to ask;

"Fuck a muppet non-sense"?

 

[Anchuent Christory]

I actually don't blame folk for defending Chris at first because the concept of somebody with autism being bullied by assholes on the internet is perfectly believable in this day and age. As has been shown time and time again, you can't really be told about Chris' more undesirable personality traits, you have to see them for yourself.
It's no fluke that Chris stands alone among other lolcows when it comes to volume of the documentation of his antics.

 

[Pickle Inspector]

He really shouldn't feel envious of Chris's new car or whatnot since Chris owes a huge amount of debt and instead of saving and buying an affordable car outright put himself in even more debt.

I agree Chris would benifit from a shrink although can't imagine Chris taking any critisim or difficult suggestions well.

 

[Mitsunari]

I agree with the writer in that Chris's allegedly newly-discovered identity as a "lesbian transgender" reflects a poor state of mind. Now, I'm not saying transgender people are crazy, and I'm all for people identifying as whatever helps them sleep at night, and I'm not going to argue over whether or not Christian is a "legit" transgender person, but I do believe his identifying as a transgender lesbian woman comes not from him feeling he's a woman inside, but from an insanely strong loathing of himself and the male gender in general. And that's... sad, that you hate yourself so much for being a man. It's not healthy.

Other than that, kudos to the writer for realizing defending Christian will bring you nothing in the end. I don't mean to A-log, really, but people who side with him tend to get shit from him in the end as well. At lest as a troll/non-defender you know not to expect much from him. And although I don't know how social security in the USA works exactly, I think it's cool that they take it away from people who start making money - wish they did the same here in Debtland.

Thanks for sharing, Thetan.

 

[milkshark]

There's no point in defending or criticizing Chris. It does nobody any good. Watch Chris, or don't. He's not going to change and yes, he does quite well for himself despite being a barely functional human. Chris is like Michael Bay, he puts out uninspired work because it sells. He's more successful than most artists with loads more skill than him, yet can't get himself out of debt or even maintain his own happiness. Watch or don't, the fact is Chris matters more than you reading about him does. He's better than us, yet worse at the same time.

 

[WilhelmIIofPrussia]

"I don't agree that a site like CWCki should target someone"

Target in what way? I don't think the majority of people on this forum target him to reduce the quality of his life, but to simply observe him and laugh, not to interfere in his life in any tangible way. Chris will do what Chris will do, whether or not we derive pleasure from seeing it is a separate issue.

"but I have also come to understand that it also highlights what antics he does and more or less he brings the rain down on his own parade"

They're not wrong there. Chris is his own worst enemy, which is actually why I support him getting tugboat. Unconditionally. I'm not sure if it's even possible for him to work. Could he get a service job say at a fast food place? Has he tried? I'm not sure they would take him. I think the mentally disabled should get a basic level of help regardless of whether or not they use it to accumulate their own weight in Legos.

 

[bradsternum]

^That exactly. Most of us here have no interest in participating in his antics or trying to influence him in any way.

 

[TheImportantFart]

Personally I've always found White Knights to be the most annoying of the unholy trinity because they often can't be bothered to do their research or check their facts while giving off an infuriating holier-than-thou attitude. Worse, they reduce Chris's autism to a get-out-of-jail-free card that excuses any and all of his bad behaviour, which is just plain wrong in my eyes.

But the advantage they have over Weens and A-Logs is that they're probably the most likely of the three to wise up and realise their mistakes. This has happened countless times before and now it's happened again. Seems the only people in Chris's corner at the moment are Barb, Anna and the morons from the comments section of the Father Call on YouTube.

 

[Cotton Pudding]

It's nice to get a little insight from someone closer to Chris than most others would ever be.

Thank you Theatan for sharing!

 

[sparklemilhouse]

They dont realize that the BMW is old as hell though and they probably bought it 10+ years ago.

 

[TaterBot]

Maybe I'm reading too much into it, but it seems Chris is as invested in following cwckiforums as we are in following him. He got financial assistance after the fire, (nothing wrong with that, it's humanitarian), he took the advice of the cwckifirm to sell stuff from the house, he then took the suggestions to produce stuff for sale.
Producing medallions, art, and comics were all ideas that probably originated from this Forum.
He put out a product, ppl bought it. What they do with it after that is none of his business. What he does with the money after that is not our concern.

Some of the complaining seems to stem from people expecting Chris to live up to their expectations of how to act, and/or jealousy. As a single working person, I get smashed in the face with a hefty tax bite every payday and again every April 15th. I don't like it. However, I don't begrudge Chris the bit he gets from the govt. Between them, his parents probably put 80 or so years into the work sector of this country. Chris didn't ask to be born autistic, or to the parents he got. Can we rly expect him to act, think, behave, and perform at a job exactly the same way we do (or the way we think he should)?

 

[Ron_Swanson]

For those upset about the "mad ebay money" he's "raking" in, remember that this is the hardest Chris has had to work in years, he keeps fucking things up (isn't he $300 in the red?), and overall this money is a drop in the bucket compared to the ocean of debt he will -always- have waiting for him.

I wish the person emailing knew/realized this, because it's a weird thing to focus rage on. As much money Chris is getting now, he can't balance it for shit, I mean, what's the best way to squander money that you don't have? of course, go out and buy a new car. Remember when all we thought we knew he would buy with the ebay money were legos? yeah.

 

[P-Logic]

The writer of this email has a pretty bizarre perspective. The latest Chris video was indeed extremely pathetic, but surely that would make most people feel more sorry for him, and not less.

I understand his frustrations about Chris blowing his social security money on toys though, but that's hardly a new development. He's been spending huge amounts of money on video games for years.

I don't agree that the small amount of money Chris's ebay activities bring in should affect the small amount of money he receives from the government. As Chris is soon to realise, it's hardly a stable income. He'll be pretty fucked when it dries up, even with his tugboat still coming into port regularly. I don't think the BMW is a big deal either. It wasn't paid for with government money, and it isn't actually worth $15k.

I think the writer of this email is probably struggling financially despite working and thinks that Chris is having an easier time while sitting on his ass. That might be true, but I don't think Chris's situation is as salubrious as the author believes. Seems like this guy/girl has seen that Chris's mom has a beamer, he's making money off ebay, and he's bought a new car. I don't think he/she realises how shitty that BMW actually is, how unstable Chris's ebay income will soon become, and the fact that he really, really can't afford his new car.

 

[Anonimo]

When I first read the title of this thread, I was half expecting it to be Anna having come to her senses, but I'm guessing this friend is no one we know. I certainly won't ask who it is because I'd prefer that the weens don't flock to this persons e-mail inbox like moths to a flame.

We've had proof that Chris was alienating his friends since we got wind of his antics on Facebook in late 2013. Even when that one friend of his from high school told us things we could only speculate about his true high school experience, he lost all sympathy for Chris when he saw his "sin list". Despite this Chris isn't alone, he does still have friends I'm sure ( and by that I don't mean Kengle or Watermelon). But if Chris keeps this up, and I'm sure that he will, I can't say things can get better of his social life.

Though if I may ask, what were the Ivy parallels in his last video? I wasn't following Chris when the saga was going on.

 

[Drawets Rednaxela]

Not the first guy to suggest Chris needs medical attention for his mental health issues, and probably not the last.