2016-12-27 - Victoria Shingleton: "The attorney general of canada had to be involved" -

[Lorin O'Landry]

Cloudflare received a DMCA copyright infringement complaint regarding:

kiwifarms.net

Below is the complaint we received:

Reporter's Name: Victoria Shingleton
Copyright Holder's Name: victoria shingleton
Reporter's Email Address: mvminksend@hotmail.com
Reporter's Title: Miss
Reporter's Address: 2 peer drive guelph, ontario CA
Reported URLs:
https://kiwifarms.net/threads/victoria-shingleton-victoria-bellamorte-miss-victoria-murder.26853/
Original Work: Stolen from instagram and fb

https://instagram.com/missvictoriamurder
https://www.facebook.com/VictoriaBellaMorteOfficial/

(The link to the topic i sent, is using my copy written images i own soul rights to as i have photographers sign over all rights to the images or they were self shot, as you can see they are clearly used without my permission and this person has simply moved the harassment to a new venue.)

Hello!
>
> Kiwifarms.net has someone on it posting a topic about me who has been
> harassing me through lolcow.com. The attorney general of canada had
> to be involved to remove the content last time from their site as it
> is illegal and in both US and Canadian law...being part of it or
> aiding cyber bullying and online harassment is punishable by law...as
> well as my copywritten content is posted without my permission on the
>site...which can leave the host liable if it is not removed.
>
> I would ask that the content be removed..i would need to contact the host site personally, i would rather go that route than have to getting the authorities involved in the matter again.....this person has been
> stalking / harassing me for over a year and its getting out of hand. They started the topic on Christmas eve they are that relentless.
>
> Thank you greatly
> -Victoria


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[GS 281]

Oh great. I knew OP was looking for the email address on her.

 

[Cthulu]

The attorney general of canada had
> to be involved to remove the content last time from their site as it
> is illegal and in both US and Canadian law

Tell it to Putin

 

[XYZpdq]

i own soul rights to

IT'S A DEMON HIDE YOUR PIZZAS

 

[Lorin O'Landry]

The battle rages.

Lorin O'Landry <legal@kiwifarms.net>
5:26 PM (41 minutes ago)
to mvminksend

Hello Victoria,

The works are used in the context of criticism and ridicule. This is covered by the First Amendment to the United States Constitution.

For more information, please see:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/First_Amendment_to_the_United_States_Constitution

Happy New Year,

--
Lorin O'Landry
Legal Advisor
Lolcow LLC
p: +1 (757) 932-5494
w: kiwifarms.net e: legal@kiwifarms.net

vee b m
5:51 PM (17 minutes ago)
to Lorin

This case has been forwarded to the local MP and is being brought before the Justice Minister of Canada (Attorney General) to decide what happens to your client, company due to the criminal harassment and cyber bullying, which is illegal in both countries, just so you are aware. I do not know how in good conscience you can condone such a thing, as many girls have committed suicide under the same circumstances and the offenders in such cases have been extradited and charged.

Have a good day.

Lorin O'Landry <legal@kiwifarms.net>
6:07 PM (1 minute ago)
to vee

Extradition is only applicable in criminal court, not civil court. Copyright is a civil issue. In order to sue Lolcow LLC for the 0 dollars and 00 cents it's worth, you would need to find a lawyer and judge in the United States willing to hear it, you would need to swear yourself to American law, and you would need to base the accusations on American law. You cannot use American lawyers and American courts to sue American citizens for Canadian crimes, and you cannot use Canadian copyright law to extradite United States citizens.

If you need more help understanding basic law, I can provide legal consultation for a nominal fee.

Sincerely,

--
Lorin O'Landry
Legal Advisor
Lolcow LLC
p: +1 (757) 932-5494
w: kiwifarms.net e: legal@kiwifarms.net

 

[RI 360]

she must be hurting to know she can't hide behind trudeau's skirt.

 

[ShavedSheep]

Lorin is just spitting straight fire

 

[Cthulu]

The battle rages.

lol rekt

 

[Lurkette]

quick someone feature her thread

 

[Jaded Optimist]

Why do people think the laws here apply for stuff they posted publicly? The only time any law office in Canada would care is if it's revenge porn (and generally only for minors).
sorry victoria, but threatening erroneous lawsuits don't make you seem very edgy, and apparently that's your "thing".

 

[Feline Darkmage]

Yes, it was I! Lolcow.com! I have been cyberbullying Vicky Shingles for over a year! And I won't stop until I can go to her grave in Canadia and scream "VIIIIICKAAAAY" AT IT!

 

[Lorin O'Landry]

This email makes it very clear that Victoria has no idea what charges she wants to press. It's flipped between DMCA and Bullying twice now.

vee b m
6:14 PM
to Lorin

Perhaps you have trouble reading...it will be tried as a criminal offense, as criminal harassment and cyberbullying is considered criminal in both US and canada... the copyright is a separate issue. Im sure the Attorney General of Canada will know all about the proceedings for that. i do not require other representation other than her at this time.

Enjoy your day.

Lorin O'Landry <legal@kiwifarms.net>
7:32 PM
to vee

'Cyberbullying' and 'bullying' laws vary from state to state and country to country, but the gist is the same where it exists. Bullying is somewhat strictly defined as a sort of harassment that only occurs towards students and faculty of the education sector by other members of the same facility. I can tell from looking at you that you're well over 18 years old and are not a student. So, unless the person who made that thread and left comments is a member of a school you work at, it isn't cyberbullying.

Laws on stalking and harassment are broader. They're a superset of bullying. If you wanted to press harassment charges, you'd have to press them against the individuals in the thread who left the comments that break the law. The Kiwi Farms is a website, not a person, and cannot break the law. Lolcow LLC owns that website, but indicates on the bottom of every page on the site that it does not own the content posted by users. This means that you'd have to identify individuals and prosecute them individually. Lolcow LLC is not required to obey Canadian court orders to hand over identifying information about users.

You cannot hold the forum or its container company liable for random people's posts. If that were possible, the Internet would not be able to exist.
You cannot, as a non-student and non-teacher, criminally accuse people of bullying.

There's so much more that's preposterous about your demands and worth going over, but since I'm giving you advice on how to better threaten the company I'm representing, this is all you get.

Next time you file legal complaints you should have a mentally capable parent or guardian assist you.

--
Lorin O'Landry
Legal Advisor
Lolcow LLC
p: +1 (757) 932-5494
w: kiwifarms.net e: legal@kiwifarms.net

 

[Cthulu]

This email makes it very clear that Victoria has no idea what charges she wants to press. It's flipped between DMCA and Bullying twice now.

lol rekt somemore. @Lorin O'Landry is my favorite user..lol

 

[Pocket_Sand!]

@Lorin O'Landry this is easily one of the best things I've seen in a while, I wish I had the Semper Fi rating for you, but I guess Winner will have to do.

Edit; What is it with cows and using the exact same threat over and over. Hell, it even crosses borders and oceans, they all think exactly the same way. It's both amazing and terrifying.

 

[bacterium]

Cloudflare received a DMCA copyright infringement complaint regarding:

kiwifarms.net

Below is the complaint we received:

Reporter's Name: Victoria Shingleton
Copyright Holder's Name: victoria shingleton
Reporter's Email Address: mvminksend@hotmail.com
Reporter's Title: Miss
Reporter's Address: 2 peer drive guelph, ontario CA
Reported URLs:
https://kiwifarms.net/threads/victoria-shingleton-victoria-bellamorte-miss-victoria-murder.26853/
Original Work: Stolen from instagram and fb

https://instagram.com/missvictoriamurder
https://www.facebook.com/VictoriaBellaMorteOfficial/

(The link to the topic i sent, is using my copy written images i own soul rights to as i have photographers sign over all rights to the images or they were self shot, as you can see they are clearly used without my permission and this person has simply moved the harassment to a new venue.)

Hello!
&gt;
&gt; Kiwifarms.net has someone on it posting a topic about me who has been
&gt; harassing me through lolcow.com. The attorney general of canada had
&gt; to be involved to remove the content last time from their site as it
&gt; is illegal and in both US and Canadian law...being part of it or
&gt; aiding cyber bullying and online harassment is punishable by law...as
&gt; well as my copywritten content is posted without my permission on the
&gt;site...which can leave the host liable if it is not removed.
&gt;
&gt; I would ask that the content be removed..i would need to contact the host site personally, i would rather go that route than have to getting the authorities involved in the matter again.....this person has been
&gt; stalking / harassing me for over a year and its getting out of hand. They started the topic on Christmas eve they are that relentless.
&gt;
&gt; Thank you greatly
&gt; -Victoria


We have provided the name of your hosting provider to the reporter. Additionally, we have forwarded this complaint to your hosting provider as well.

Regards,

Cloudflare Abuse

You, sir, are amazing. And this is definitely my favorite subforum.

 

[AA 102]

Next time you file legal complaints you should have a mentally capable parent or guardian assist you.

I'd be surprised if she even knows anyone mentally capable.

 

[Maiden-TieJuan]

@Lorin O'Landry this is easily one of the best things I've seen in a while, I wish I had the Semper Fi rating for you, but I guess Winner will have to do.

Edit; What is it with cows and using the exact same threat over and over. Hell, it even crosses borders and oceans, they all think exactly the same way. It's both amazing and terrifying.

Because they all think THEY have an air tight case and that their **super speshul snowflake selves** will succeed when all their others have not. It is rather amusing to watch.

 

[RJ MacReady]

What's funny about her language is that in Canada, "Attorney General" is just a sinecure title attached to the Minister of Justice, who isn't normally involved in prosecution a la the U.S. Attorney General who (somewhat inversely) heads the DOJ but is never referred to as Secretary. This bitch watches too much American news.

 

[Dr. Merkwurdichliebe]

This email makes it very clear that Victoria has no idea what charges she wants to press. It's flipped between DMCA and Bullying twice now.

vee b m
6:14 PM
to Lorin

. . . Im sure the Attorney General of Canada will know all about the proceedings for that. i do not require other representation other than her at this time.

Enjoy your day.

I'd watch out if I were you, Lorin. This woman clearly states that Canadian Ministre de la Justice Jody Wilson-Raybould is her personal legal representative and will be, in her capacity as head of the Department of Justice, prosecuting you in a criminal matter.

The Canadian legal system sounds quite unusual.

 

[knux]

Seriously mad props to Lorin for being so patient with this nonsense. Victoria is definitely a narc as they're like a dog with a bone. Once they bite down, they never let go. Even when they end up looking more and more stupid. They just have to win, no matter what.

Why do these people seem to behave like these interactions are something out of a computer game? Where they keep trying random legal terms in the hope they will stumble upon the 'correct answer' to make the NPC change tune and give them what they want. It's clear that Lorin is not buying her bullshit in the slightest.