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If you didn't already know Mark Mann got visited by the feds because of doorcuck.
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I'd be ultra-concerned if I were talking to a fed (which you should never do) and they actually knew enough about whatever I was doing to comment on it even in a "friendly" way. They seem a lot more interested in this guy than here. He should be very, very concerned.
 

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I'd be ultra-concerned if I were talking to a fed (which you should never do) and they actually knew enough about whatever I was doing to comment on it even in a "friendly" way. They seem a lot more interested in this guy than here. He should be very, very concerned.
I wouldn't talk to law enforcement under those circumstances without having an attorney present.
 

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I assumed he was just some dude who'd found the documents on some chan or a torrent file and uploaded them here.

And he may well have been just that. People fall all over themselves in a quest to be the first to post stuff to a wider audience, often posting it to multiple sites.

This bit from the BuzzFeed article is kind of interesting. Who are the "Hash Sharing Consortium" members?

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And he may well have been just that. People fall all over themselves in a quest to be the first to post stuff to a wider audience, often posting it to multiple sites.

This bit from the BuzzFeed article is kind of interesting. Who are the "Hash Sharing Consortium" members?

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There's a page here


This serves as the first GIFCT Transparency Report, updating on joint-tech and cross-sector progress and relations. On August 1, 2017, Facebook, Microsoft, Twitter and YouTube launched the Global Internet Forum to Counter Terrorism (GIFCT) to formalize and give structure to existing industry cooperation, to curtail the spread of terrorism and violent extremism online. Building on the ongoing work of the EU Internet Forum, the GIFCT aims to foster collaboration with smaller tech companies, civil society groups, academics, governments and supranational bodies such as the EU and the UN. We believe that by working together and sharing the best technological and operational elements of our individual efforts, we can have a significantly greater impact on the threat of terrorist content online.


At the end of 2018 the GIFCT gave itself the goal of reaching 200k hashes by the end of 2019. We are pleased to say that the Hash Sharing Consortium has reached over 200k unique pieces of terrorist content. Companies often have slightly different definitions on “terrorism” and “terrorist content”. For the purposes of the hash sharing database, and to find an agreed upon common ground, founding companies in 2017 decided to define terrorist content based on content relating to organizations on the UN Terrorist Sanctions lists. Companies also agreed upon a basic taxonomy around the type of content ingested relating to these listed organizations. The taxonomy includes the following labels that are applied to the content when a company ads hashes to the shared database.

• Imminent Credible Threat (ICT): A public posting of a specific, imminent, credible threat of violence toward non-combatants and/or civilian infrastructure.

• Graphic Violence Against Defenseless People: The murder, execution, rape, torture, or infliction of serious bodily harm on defenseless people (prisoner exploitation, obvious non-combatants being targeted).

• Glorification of Terrorist Acts (GTA): Content that glorifies, praises, condones or celebrates attacks after the fact.

• Recruitment and Instruction (R&I): Materials that seek to recruit followers, give guidance or instruct them operationally.

• New Zealand Perpetrator Content: The GIFCT set a new precedent in the wake of the New Zealand terrorist attack. Due to the virality and cross-platform spread of the attacker’s manifesto and attack video, and because New Zealand authorities deemed all manifesto and attack video content illegal, the GIFCT created a crisis bank to mitigate the spread of this content.

So if the NZ Authorities 'deem' all manifesto and attack video content illegal, the GIFCT will add SHA/MD5 hashes to their hash database and then they can detect it. And then either ban the comment, ban the user or van the user depending on where the user is. Delightful.

The host is down at the moment, but this is an interesting/horrifying sounding paper


The focus of this paper is on the extremist group Britain First. As such, it does not explore online terrorist activity but rather examines how a group regarded as extremist is subject to online sanctions. The removal of the extremist group Britain First from Facebook in March 2018 successfully disrupted the group’s online activity, leading them to have to start anew on Gab, a different and considerably smaller social media platform. The removal also resulted in the group having to seek new online followers from a much smaller, less diverse recruitment pool. This paper demonstrates the further impact of the group’s platform migration on their online strategy – particularly on their choice of images and the engagement levels generated through them. The paper puts forward a number of key recommendations, most importantly that social-media companies should continue to censor and remove hateful content.

Remember when the West used to believe in a free market of ideas meaning good ideas winning and bad ideas losing and criticised places like China for trying to censor the web? Now it seems like you have think tanks writing papers recommend social media companies 'continue to censor and remove hateful content' and social media companies acting as a sort of unofficial censorship arm of the state. Politicians 'deem' something illegal, and the social media companies use a shared database of hashes to nuke it off the web. Even in countries where it is not illegal.

In fact, the set up is very reminiscent of China - the government decides what needs to be banned and then private companies do the actual banning. E.g. in China the CCP might decide that content on the Hong Kong demonstrations needs to go bye-bye, but it's companies like Weibo and Youku who do the actual memory holing.
 
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And he may well have been just that. People fall all over themselves in a quest to be the first to post stuff to a wider audience, often posting it to multiple sites.

This bit from the BuzzFeed article is kind of interesting. Who are the "Hash Sharing Consortium" members?

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The "Hash Sharing Consortium" is likely some SPLC / ADL / Soros funded anti-wrongthink movement.

Edit: YUP


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Basically they're using the same tech they used to scan for Child Porn and started using it for Terrorism. And now that everyone's gotten used to it, manifestos.

Next up will be memes that Globalists dislike, and they'll absolutely start demanding sites like Imgur, Mega, etc all start following the hash system too.

tl;dr: It's a virus scanner except instead of viruses, they're now scanning for naughty documents that you naughty naughty people shouldn't be looking at, yet alone sharing. Ya'll can't behave!
 

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If you didn't already know Mark Mann got visited by the feds because of doorcuck.
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The FBI is probably visiting meguca too considering the shooter posted his manifesto there.
https://archive.md/iD5X5 (archive of doorcucks thread)
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News article about it
cleartext of the torrent hash: 50bdcd254ecaeb8e44dbb65c435340e90f214307
a simple search of that hash results in a small number of live links and a noted 20 DMCA-removed links.

I note that 3 of these are of interest:
juzibt and nanrencili were last scraped by google on 10 Oct 2019 within a couple hours of each other. The sites are currently both offline as far as Cloudflare is concerned. I have attached pdf prints of the google cache but I do not immediately see anything weird. (Admittedly, I don't read anything save English.)

The third is a board called spqrchan.xyz that has no mentions here on this site (I searched) but is apparently quite familiar with KF.
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I read over the linked page. A few things jump out at me (keep in mind I was only vaguely aware of the shooting before @Null posted this thread.) I haven't read the manifesto.

First, there's an apparent page that shouts out to Mark of vch.moe, who apparently sent sizeable bitcoin to the writer.
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This is just about $800 USD on that date, per https://freecurrencyrates.com/en/exchange-rate-history/BTC-USD/2019.

This explains the bitcoin request in Null's subpoena.

There are a number of clips of the shooting, which I will archive elsewhere. The entire thing was on Bitchute and Mega at some point but no longer exists.


@Superman93's post is screenshot over there:

Various sites declare denial (plus free KF bashing!):

list of people used in the manifesto
Key people:
https://archive.vn/9fV06
Previous work:
https://archive.fo/2ZXWW
https://archive.vn/Ee3hy
Conferences & Events:
https://archive.vn/SQjrg
https://archive.vn/sJ0GP
If an UKanon dares attend the 21st seminar:
https://archive.vn/4jAyT
Location:
https://archive.vn/LF992
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The "manifesto" was made after the "shooting" happened, read the sources' timelines here: whomever wrote that shit is trying to pin Mark Mann, and it isn't Kohlchan.

Timestamps apparently reveal the manifesto was after the stream:
EDIT: Misread, the torrent was after the stream, which makes sense.
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@Übertroon is randomly called out as a suspect:
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Not really important to the case - I think - but he should be aware.



Conclusions: All of that combined with the HSC in @Gustav Schuchardt's post sounds like this is a massive fishing expedition based on "terrorist content." Were I Mark I would be lawyering up 3 weeks ago. I don't expect Null or anyone here has anything to worry about but please mind your Ps & Qs.

EDIT: forgot one of the PDFs, added an archive link of spqrchan, slight wording changes
 

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The "Hash Sharing Consortium" is likely some SPLC / ADL / Soros funded anti-wrongthink movement.

Edit: YUP


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Basically they're using the same tech they used to scan for Child Porn and started using it for Terrorism. And now that everyone's gotten used to it, manifestos.

Next up will be memes that Globalists dislike, and they'll absolutely start demanding sites like Imgur, Mega, etc all start following the hash system too.

tl;dr: It's a virus scanner except instead of viruses, they're now scanning for naughty documents that you naughty naughty people shouldn't be looking at, yet alone sharing. Ya'll can't behave!
So basically if they get their way, people who are curious about the manifestos will have to go to the darkweb on forums much more likely to radicalize them than public clearweb platforms? Delightful. :roll:

As long as the media gives spree shooters attention, hybristophiles and edgelords will keep glorifying them. Trying to censor the manifestos/other icky material will only stop boomers and five year olds from accessing it, it's not hard to use TOR.
 

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So basically if they get their way, people who are curious about the manifestos will have to go to the darkweb on forums much more likely to radicalize them than public clearweb platforms? Delightful. :roll:

As long as the media gives spree shooters attention, hybristophiles and edgelords will keep glorifying them. Trying to censor the manifestos/other icky material will only stop boomers and five year olds from accessing it, it's not hard to use TOR.
We're likely also going to start to see third parties publishing opinions and manifestos following attacks. It becomes a loophole if terrorists can have people not involved in the act regurgitate their ideas following an attack
 

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The "Hash Sharing Consortium" is likely some SPLC / ADL / Soros funded anti-wrongthink movement.

Edit: YUP


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Basically they're using the same tech they used to scan for Child Porn and started using it for Terrorism. And now that everyone's gotten used to it, manifestos.

Next up will be memes that Globalists dislike, and they'll absolutely start demanding sites like Imgur, Mega, etc all start following the hash system too.

tl;dr: It's a virus scanner except instead of viruses, they're now scanning for naughty documents that you naughty naughty people shouldn't be looking at, yet alone sharing. Ya'll can't behave!

I knew there was an international forum because there was a fair bit of media coverage of them being due to meet soon after the Christchurch attacks and New Zealand was going to ask the members to adopt similar laws and policies to what NZ enacted (because fuck sovereignty, apparently).

I guess Twitch and Telegram will be joining them now.

I followed a link from the Buzzfeed article and found this.

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As long as the media gives spree shooters attention, hybristophiles and edgelords will keep glorifying them. Trying to censor the manifestos/other icky material will only stop boomers and five year olds from accessing it, it's not hard to use TOR.

They want to control who gets glorified. New programmes are constantly being made by mainstream media on people like Manson, Unabomber, and school shooters - all of whom are down to have inspired others - but we can't talk about recent events because reasons.
 
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Any idea if countries like China have communities focused on free speech on the dark web? Or is it all CP and drugs just like in other countries?

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I knew there was an international forum because there was a fair bit of media coverage of them being due to meet soon after the Christchurch attacks and New Zealand was going to ask the members to adopt similar laws and policies to what NZ enacted (because fuck sovereignty, apparently).

I guess Twitch and Telegram will be joining them now.

I followed a link from the Buzzfeed article and found this.

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Telegram? Isn't that the chat program that had a bunch of zoophiles sharing pics of puppies getting raped with baseball bats? Whew.
 

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Any idea if countries like China have communities focused on free speech on the dark web? Or is it all CP and drugs just like in other countries?


Telegram? Isn't that the chat program that had a bunch of zoophiles sharing pics of puppies getting raped with baseball bats? Whew.
I am horrified that you know of such content. >.>
 

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I am horrified that you know of such content. >.>
There was a thread about the telegram zoophiles a while back.
 

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There was a thread about the telegram zoophiles a while back.
Stomach churning.

This has nothing to do with what you posted per se and more for a laugh for those that recognize one of KF's spergiest spergs, that got banned from here, is on that site. :story:
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I wondered if that would be the case.

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