2020 U.S. Presidential Election - Trump vs. Biden

Who is the best choice for President of the United States in 2020?


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Notgoodwithusernames

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The problem with Biden is that he has very little in the way of strong support aside from his neoliberal elite masters. Moderate democrats don’t feel to strongly about him one way or the other, the Bernie bros/socialists fucking hate him, and blacks currently only hate the DNC slightly less than the GOP (plus his you ain’t black comments didn’t help matters). Hillary at least had the im a wahmen angle to lure in the idpol crowd and nostalgia for the Clinton Years. Biden has nothing.
 

King Ghidorah

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The problem with Biden is that he has very little in the way of strong support aside from his neoliberal elite masters. Moderate democrats don’t feel to strongly about him one way or the other, the Bernie bros/socialists fucking hate him, and blacks currently only hate the DNC slightly less than the GOP (plus his you ain’t black comments didn’t help matters). Hillary at least had the im a wahmen angle to lure in the idpol crowd and nostalgia for the Clinton Years. Biden has nothing.
There is the entertainment value of a man's brain rotting in real time
 

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I was talking with my dad regarding the polls, and he believes that the reason they are pushing for Biden being in the lead after 2016 showed how useless polls are, is to hand wave any accusations of cheating (which imo will have happened if Biden wins).
If people ask, wow how did Biden win? And instead of claims of cheating (as was the result of 2016 due to polls vs results) they will all shrug and say, well that's what the polls predicted.

Of course, they could also be dumb and think the polls are legit.
I personally think most of the polls taken before the likely voter screenings and the debates are basically just a mix of propaganda and an attempt at discouraging conservatives from voting, just like all the polls showing Clinton ahead by stupid amounts in 2016 were. I maintain that you shouldn't trust the polls, but at the same time it's interesting to see what polls are and are not discussed by the mainstream media. Trafalgar released a poll from Wisconsin recently, and it basically has Trump and Biden in a statistical tie. Link here: https://drive.google.com/file/d/1F24BlPxjI_qqhY_aevu_2b0vDRTaJQHj/view
The main difference between this and so many other polls seems to be the addition of third-party/other and undecided voter categories.
 

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I'm genuinely at the point where I don't think it matters if Trump wins. The leftist regime has proven themselves so rabid and desperately insane that they'll try anything and everything short of just putting a bullet through orange man's skull to get their way (and even that I wouldn't put past them anymore). If he wins I fully expect some kind of insurrection attempt where they make up whatever given excuse to get him out one way or another, and given all the work they've done just over the course of this year alone to get the media, corporations and online communities under their boots they have more than enough power and influence to ensure the populace just goes along with it, and any attempts to push back will be easily branded as white supremacy and shut down. After all, with any and all possible varying opinions blocked out, all the majority (or at least, the majority that matters) will see are the lies so they'll believe everything the media tells them.

Or maybe I'm just talking doomer bullshit and deserve the pile of puzzle pieces coming my way from posting this. Because I'd honestly love to see my crazy prediction be wrong...
Nah dude, shits fucked. There are many layers of obfuscation, there's no way a normal person would just sift through it. All the FEC, SEC, and bureaucratic nuances of reading that shit is mind boggling. You can't FOIA what you don't know. Most people on here have never been to a shithole country, so it doesn't even register to them how shitty it can get.

Just spam your neighbors with deauth packets and jam maritime frequencies because you feel like it.
 
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Jarolleon

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You know I'm kinda disappointed I forgot about that I always am amazed how the best fiction can be relevant even into modern day
Heinlein seemed to genuinely believe that would be a good system, and put a lot of work into fleshing it out in the novel. Trouble is if you copied and pasted the system exactly, "service" meant more than just military (the theory was it guarantees citizenship because it shows your willingness to sacrifice for your country) so it could easily degenerate into "The Deep State openly runs the country" in times of prolonged peace.
 

Syaoran Li

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An interesting question is going to be what will the Far Left do if Trump does win 2020?

They've already gone all out since they're convinced the revolution is now, and there's been a few rumors that Antifa and BLM may have been planning attacks on suburbs on the night of July 4th using fireworks as a cover to mask any potential sounds of gunfire and break ins, and have been setting off fireworks prematurely for several nights in multiple towns and cities.

The big thing I keep hearing is that the first major attacks will be in Gettysburg, Pennsylvania and they'll actually desecrate Civil War graves right before they make the big attacks.

While it seems likely that those leaked police memorandums and chat logs were Q sperging or Boomer paranoia, there's a few subtle details here and there that make me think it could be a real plan of attack, or at least a glowing gay op to lure Antifa/BLM into a trap since they're more or less loose cannons who can no longer be controlled as easily.

I would not be surprised if there are glowies in Antifa hangouts actively fedposting, and Antifa and BLM are probably dumb enough to take the bait.

Given how the media and Big Tech have more or less been endorsing BLM and the far left being more often handled with kid gloves than the far right, I could see them being more susceptible to falling for fedposting, especially right now where everything is seemingly in chaos and major racial and sociopolitical tensions are at an all time high.

The more dedicated elements of the Woke Left think this really is the start of the big revolution and aren't aware they're just the useful idiots for the corporatist bigwigs they claim to oppose. if they do decide to just go full on McVeigh in the name of left-wing revolution, it'd be game over for them. Especially if they aggressively go looting and murdering in deliberately targeted suburbs like those supposed leaks claim they will.


Again, it's probably Boomer paranoia and Q sperging, or maybe the glow spooks are fedposting and pulling gay ops all around, but I think if they don't do something extreme even for them on the 4th of July, it's extremely likely they'll try and do something in November, especially if Trump wins the election.
 

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An interesting question is going to be what will the Far Left do if Trump does win 2020?

They've already gone all out since they're convinced the revolution is now, and there's been a few rumors that Antifa and BLM may have been planning attacks on suburbs on the night of July 4th using fireworks as a cover to mask any potential sounds of gunfire and break ins, and have been setting off fireworks prematurely for several nights in multiple towns and cities.

The big thing I keep hearing is that the first major attacks will be in Gettysburg, Pennsylvania and they'll actually desecrate Civil War graves right before they make the big attacks.

While it seems likely that those leaked police memorandums and chat logs were Q sperging or Boomer paranoia, there's a few subtle details here and there that make me think it could be a real plan of attack, or at least a glowing gay op to lure Antifa/BLM into a trap since they're more or less loose cannons who can no longer be controlled as easily.

I would not be surprised if there are glowies in Antifa hangouts actively fedposting, and Antifa and BLM are probably dumb enough to take the bait.

Given how the media and Big Tech have more or less been endorsing BLM and the far left being more often handled with kid gloves than the far right, I could see them being more susceptible to falling for fedposting, especially right now where everything is seemingly in chaos and major racial and sociopolitical tensions are at an all time high.

The more dedicated elements of the Woke Left think this really is the start of the big revolution and aren't aware they're just the useful idiots for the corporatist bigwigs they claim to oppose. if they do decide to just go full on McVeigh in the name of left-wing revolution, it'd be game over for them. Especially if they aggressively go looting and murdering in deliberately targeted suburbs like those supposed leaks claim they will.


Again, it's probably Boomer paranoia and Q sperging, or maybe the glow spooks are fedposting and pulling gay ops all around, but I think if they don't do something extreme even for them on the 4th of July, it's extremely likely they'll try and do something in November, especially if Trump wins the election.
Considering they picked Biden, I'm not sure they're really trying to win. I think it's more about setting precedent that they control media and preventing anyone else like Trump standing up in the future.
 

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I'm not really worried about the left going full Al Queda on the populous. The mob is only a minority of a minority. Sure, everyone bows to them, but things are getting better. AT&T are selling off CNN's HQ in Atlanta, probably an indication CNN isn't doing too hot right now. And if Trump wins, there'll probably be some companies that throw the mob under the bus because they got the message from the vote. You also have to remember these kids aren't harden military troops. They scatter at the first sign of trouble. They hee and haw about scrapes and bruises. Unless the left somehow gets out of country mercenaries to coup for them, I'm not too worried. The riots after the election will probably be a repeat of last month. But probably not as strong since it'll be mid-fall and the weather will be chilly in most areas.
 

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Imma dig into spergitory here and say something that other people have already said but I think these riots and the dem leadership completely glossing them over is their current last hurrah before the inevitable disaster that will be Trump and Bidens first confrontation. They cant avoid it forever and they know that. So they are using the momentum of this godsend of a clear video of a white cop basically killing a black criminal to generate as much strife as they can to produce as much hatred and bitterness towards the current administration. So long as the hate for Trump exceeds the nervousness about Biden, then it's all necessary. What the Dems are waiting for is for tensions to climb so high that a whole wall of protestors get shot live on CNN by a bunch of majority white suburbanites. A bunch of shootings have happened but mostly as a result of an argument. Two dudes getting drunk and shooting each other somewhere in America? Eh... it happens. Not good enough. There needs to be bodies or bombs or an honest to god lynching. Something, anything to turn the buck around.

That also explains the draconian Covid lockdowns. Logic has nothing to do with it. Protecting people has nothing to do with it, all that matters is that people get mad. People either get mad and protest then catch the coof or they go pull some kind of massive hate crime. Who cares? As long as they can frame it as Orange Man Bad for causing corona or whatever.

Now, why would they think this is going to work? Other than the true fact that they are elitist cocksuckers, I have one additional theory: the Dem leadership is being fed false positives by their young social media squads. Think about it, most Dem politicians are hippy dippy Gen X or old as fuck over the hill boomers (plus the new crop of millennials that do know how to use the internet). So these people of course hire a bunch of tech literate college grad lefties to be their net hive. We know these people, we seen these people, we have argued here and elsewhere with these people. They are frankly, fucking idiots who dont know what they're doing. Now we are seeing blatant mass purging of social media of any and all dissent, probably because the reaction to the rioting was not as positive as they intended and too much counter narrative material was being passed around. That and the memes about Chop and the like was ruining the illusion. So the techies just strangle the canary in the coal mine and mass ban da eebul nasees. Then the Dem leadership starts asking for status reports and they claim it's all going swimmingly. No big backlash on here, no siree.

That's my two cents at the moment, for what it's worth.
 

King Ghidorah

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Heinlein seemed to genuinely believe that would be a good system, and put a lot of work into fleshing it out in the novel. Trouble is if you copied and pasted the system exactly, "service" meant more than just military (the theory was it guarantees citizenship because it shows your willingness to sacrifice for your country) so it could easily degenerate into "The Deep State openly runs the country" in times of prolonged peace.
What do you mean by that since there ate other jobs besides military?
 

MrJokerRager

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Twitter getting mad over a KY Senate primary last night.

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They're a bit delusional if they think a progressive candidate was going to unseat Mitch McConnell in KY. But mostly they're butthurt that the Democrats went with someone who doesn't spit in hatred at Trump.
Meanwhile Fox News is running doompilling articles about Trump possibly dropping out as his donors are now asking questions about the new poll numbers. And this campaign is also being spread on /pol/ as well.
I have a fren in a discord who says that trump might lose the election because the old white boomers are displeased with how he’s been handling the pandemic. Is there any truth to this?
The only thing old white boomers care about is their money. It the economy rises up then he wins and he already has the advantage over Biden on that regard.
 

Jarolleon

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What do you mean by that since there ate other jobs besides military?
"The Service" which guarantees citizenship also had a large array of (usually dangerous) government jobs because it was about willingness to sign up, which they'd sort based on preferences and what they thought you were good at (mostly the latter). So even a complete sped would become a human lab rat or something.
 

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Meanwhile Fox News is running doompilling articles about Trump possibly dropping out as his donors are now asking questions about the new poll numbers. And this campaign is also being spread on /pol/ as well.
What's wrong with Trump dropping out? That leaves Biden, Hawkins, and Jorgensen. Which out of those three do you think is most likely to win?

Yes, I AM going to shill the fuck out of her for the next four months. Why do you ask?
 
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