2020 U.S. Presidential Election - Trump/Pence vs. Biden/Harris

Who is the best choice for President of the United States in 2020?


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Cubanodun

A spark is all you need
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You'll get a kick out of Project Lincoln's latest strategy, then: "We're going to embarass Trump by calling him a Latin-American Warlord, that'll show him!" I mean, nevermind the fact that most warlords start wars instead of signing constant peace agreements, who the Hell thinks it's a good idea to paint their enemy as some kind of ass-kicking factory? How is this supposed to be insulting.
Caudillo is mostly mean here "political figure", yeah warlord is one of the definitions but calling him caudillo is like calling him president twice
 

MrJokerRager

I like me some nice big boobs
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You'll get a kick out of Project Lincoln's latest strategy, then: "We're going to embarass Trump by calling him a Latin-American Warlord, that'll show him!" I mean, nevermind the fact that most warlords start wars instead of signing constant peace agreements, who the Hell thinks it's a good idea to paint their enemy as some kind of ass-kicking factory? How is this supposed to be insulting.

Beyond that, this does absolutely nothing to address the problems Biden has being stapled ass-to-ass with Latin American Communists. This entire plan is fucking stupid, but that's the Lincoln Project, for you.
Isn't the Lincoln Project literally ran by one guy?

They are more gayer than the Prager University and Turning Point USA combined.

I don't see anyone being converted to any side by all three groups mentioned above.

The coverage of the forever wars under CNN, MSNBC and the Young Turks as well as other bullshit like the squad pushed me more towards Trump than Prager University or Turning Point USA. I had a stopover at r/stupidpol before jumping on the Trump train. They showed me the light of how evil wokeness and modern day shitliberals are in a language I could understand since I grow up supporting democrats and their brand of liberalism.
 

kobebyarlant

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I've been following them for a couple of weeks.

They are the only public analysis I've seen so far to even mention that "look at the rallies! No shit the working class is siding with Trump!"

They also hate Nate Silver, which is great.
I remember a few weeks before the 2016 election, seeing Hillary struggle to fill high school gymnasiums. That’s when I knew for the first time Trump had a real chance to win.
 

Harvey Danger

getting tired of this whole internet thing
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The welcome wagon is coming to greet him. I thought rioting in Lancaster was bad, this may be worse. DO IT BURN PHILLY DOWN WE NEED DOUBLE DIGITS IN PENNSYLVANIA YOU FUCKS
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Not seeing any fires, but they're being obnoxious childish assholes.




I might ask "what kind of idiots think anyone would support them when they protest like this", but I spend most of my day in the riots thread. This seems tame by comparison, considering they usually use those green lasers to blind police officers.
 

MrJokerRager

I like me some nice big boobs
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President Trump's execution... I mean Town Hall on ABC is on.
*I'd appreciate if anyone can find the Town Hall on stream.
I turned on my ABC news channel and don't see this Town Hall being broadcast.

Trump is not broadcasting it on his official channel either. When I started that Crowder Livestream, there was some nigger telling Trump that the problems in his community are due to drugs and guns.

Edit: goddamn they rigged this townhall against Trump as now he has to deal with a Shaniqua lol. Just stay on Fox News, stay away from Woodward and other MSM outlets.
 
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HARDCORE SYNDROME

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That's what really gets me about the left, they're so preoccupied with saying "go vote" and that assumption is always there that just saying that will make you magically vote Democrat. No, it makes me want to do it even more so for Trump. It did in 2016 when practically all my college professors told me to, and it does now when I'm hearing shit like this over the PA in fucking H&M. The insanity at work this year is something to behold.
I never saw the point of these campaigns either. Like no one ever thought that people (gasp) can vote for the people you don't want?

"VOTE VOOOOOOOOTE"

*votes for Trump*

"NOOOOOO, NOT FOR THAT GUY"
 

darkwingosonichugorl

Let me tell you the potential of my balls.
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I never saw the point of these campaigns either. Like no one ever thought that people (gasp) can vote for the people you don't want?

"VOTE VOOOOOOOOTE"

*votes for Trump*

"NOOOOOO, NOT FOR THAT GUY"
It's because if new registered voters would actually show up a respectable amount, Dems would win easily. They always have that hope, which will never bear fruit.
 

Hyrip123876

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Democrats are so impressed with Project Lincoln and their ads it's ridiculous.

These scrubs got cut from the GOP and they're immediately starters and captains on the Dems' squad.
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You'll get a kick out of Project Lincoln's latest strategy, then: "We're going to embarass Trump by calling him a Latin-American Warlord, that'll show him!" I mean, nevermind the fact that most warlords start wars instead of signing constant peace agreements, who the Hell thinks it's a good idea to paint their enemy as some kind of ass-kicking factory? How is this supposed to be insulting.

Beyond that, this does absolutely nothing to address the problems Biden has being stapled ass-to-ass with Latin American Communists. This entire plan is fucking stupid, but that's the Lincoln Project, for you.
Every time I hear about the Lincoln Project they've discovered a new and exciting way to utterly miss what makes Trump popular.
Lincoln Project nearly deserves its own thread for their seething incompetence. Its like if The Young Turks were a right wing pressure group.
They're a walking billboard for the uniparty conspiracy. Nobody could be so stupid as to actively campaign the GOP into a political cul-de-sac, right? Championing policies which fail time and time again, hating on Trump for his crass, brash tone-- his signature skill... you think a Jeb Bush type demeanor would've gotten the US anywhere in North Korea or the Middle East? The only reason they want Trump to tone it down is because then he's easier to browbeat and defeat through the conventional media playbook.
Seriously, this past year all they've done is moan at the public how Trump is bad at being a Republican because he isn't just like John Kasich. If voters wanted John Kasich they'd have voted for them, and seeing as he spoke at the DNC, not even John Kasich wants John Kasich on a GOP ticket.
 

heyitsmike

The beatings will continue until morale improves.
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Every time I hear about the Lincoln Project they've discovered a new and exciting way to utterly miss what makes Trump popular.
Lincoln Project nearly deserves its own thread for their seething incompetence. Its like if The Young Turks were a right wing pressure group.
They're a walking billboard for the uniparty conspiracy. Nobody could be so stupid as to actively campaign the GOP into a political cul-de-sac, right? Championing policies which fail time and time again, hating on Trump for his crass, brash tone-- his signature skill... you think a Jeb Bush type demeanor would've gotten the US anywhere in North Korea or the Middle East? The only reason they want Trump to tone it down is because then he's easier to browbeat and defeat through the conventional media playbook.
Seriously, this past year all they've done is moan at the public how Trump is bad at being a Republican because he isn't just like John Kasich. If voters wanted John Kasich they'd have voted for them, and seeing as he spoke at the DNC, not even John Kasich wants John Kasich on a GOP ticket.
That 2016 RNC field looks a lot different in hindsight. Jeb! and Rubio were shown to be completely incapable of standing up for themselves, let alone against the left if elected. Kasich and Fiorina have subsequently become Democrats in all but name and endorsed Biden.

We dodged some bullets there.

Also, lol @ Bernie getting thrown under the bus. This is what you get for being so weak.
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Gezkill

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There's something I've been meaning to write for a while, and I feel that this is the best thread to put it in.

A federal representative republic is, in essence, a giant balancing act. The balance is one of power: the checks and balances between the three branches of the federal government, the balance between state and federal governments, the balance between private accumulations of wealth and power (usually in the form of private companies/corporations/entities) and the public government/state, the balance between the government/large private companies and the common people, etc. If at any point there is an imbalance in the system, if any point in the republic is too powerful relative to any other point, it creates a vulnerability within the entire nation that, if unchecked, will expand and multiply to destabilize the entire United States.

Look at the current state of the United States of America, and you will see many imbalances, in many directions, all at once. Imbalances in favor of private "big tech" and banking/financing mega-corporations (all of which are often subsidized by the government; the imbalances themselves are accepted by the left as long as the corporations in question act in their favor); imbalances in favor of the executive branch of the government; imbalances in favor of the judicial branch of the government; imbalances in favor of state governments that follow the "correct" social causes of the day (cf. federal law-breaking "sanctuary cities"); imbalances in favor of the generally unelected and bureaucratic "deep state". These imbalances kept piling up, to the point where I honestly believe that America would have eventually ended up some sort of welfare state quasi-socialist civilian dictatorship if not for the advent of Donald Trump into mainstream politics breaking up everything.

There is a fundamental sickness that has infected the post-1960s US, and that is a significant portion of the US population thinking of those in power, whether government or corporation, as the collective surrogate parents/babysitters and "welfare-givers" of the American people, and therefore morally obligated to do whatever is needed to make any given group in the country feel comfortable and convenienced, regardless of the personal freedoms that would be trampled on in the process, regardless of whatever it is even ethical or possible to provide what is being demanded.

This is seen in calls for social media platforms to "de-platform" (i.e. censor) content that is seen as "far right" because of some "rock music causes Satanism" type nonsense where hearing PewDiePie say the word "nigger" will lead children into becoming neo-Nazis. This is also seen in the fact that corporations that were previously railed on by the left are nowadays given free passes (for the most part) once they started making a show of following the hottest social (media) issues of the hour.

I don't think a second Trump win will cause all of this to dissipate overnight, but it will solidify the trend of multiple generations finally realizing that the government is not your father and that corporations do not magically become your friend when they outwardly adopt the same politics as you do.
Voting either party will still cement that fact. Trump will further use his political vantage to make himself money and his friends money off the backs of working people while at the same time pulling back laws allowing them to push off shenanigans like dumping toxic minerals into drinking water.
 

tehpope

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No decent person exists in the political space. Period. At least at the national level. Maybe at the local level. But Politics will always be either voiting for a Douche Bag or a Turd Sandwich. At least Trump is a useful douche bag and not a broke chinese knock off one. Which is to say its advertised as a useful product but arrives broken. Like those fake GPUs on Wish.com.
 

XYZpdq

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An hour late and still hasn't started, but look at that ratio. I don't think I've ever seen something that extreme.

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Edit: Wow, they're opening with Eva Langoria, and a rough Ricky Martin.

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He's stumbling through the speech, saying "I'm begging you, begging you" to go vote. "We Puerto Ricans can determine the election! We can!" Uh... no, you can't, not even with FL numbers.
wow he couldn't even get La Comay to come out for him?
 

Someone Awful

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Should note that Richard Baris, the host of "Inside The Numbers", did a breakdown of the methodology behind his poll and how it factors in voters that most pollsters, sometimes graduate students, miss. The poll will go over the Rust Belt states considered to be competitive - Ohio, Iowa, Michigan, Wisconsin, Minnesota, and Pennsylvania. It does not have the detailed results but he does give tidbits for what is happening for those who wants hint. This poll is expected to release later today on The Epoch Times and he will do a lives stream covering this. Note that he does have a bias towards Trump but I think it will be closer to what may happen than all of the ridiculous polls predicting a Biden landslide.


Notable information,

  • Ohio and Iowa are not competitive
  • Ohio might be trending more red than Iowa
  • Michigan is a lot closer than he expected
  • Trump might have difficulty holding on to Wisconsin
  • Minnesota is really close
  • Bucks County in Pennsylvania might flip to Trump and Trump could increase his margin in Pennsylvania
  • Trump might be doing better in urban areas
  • Wall Street is predominantly favoring Democrats as seven out of the ten biggest donations are Democratic candidates with Biden at top
Also bad news. Pennsylvania won't be discarding mail-in votes where signatures do not match. I still think Trump can win the state, but if he does, it might be by a hair-raising margin like in 2016.

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UselessIdiot

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Should note that Richard Baris, the host of "Inside The Numbers", did a breakdown of the methodology behind his poll and how it factors in voters that most pollsters, sometimes graduate students, miss. The poll will go over the Rust Belt states considered to be competitive - Ohio, Iowa, Michigan, Wisconsin, Minnesota, and Pennsylvania. It does not have the detailed results but he does give tidbits for what is happening for those who wants hint. This poll is expected to release later today on The Epoch Times and he will do a lives stream covering this. Note that he does have a bias towards Trump but I think it will be closer to what may happen than all of the ridiculous polls predicting a Biden landslide.


Notable information,

  • Ohio and Iowa are not competitive
  • Ohio might be trending more red than Iowa
  • Michigan is a lot closer than he expected
  • Trump might have difficulty holding on to Wisconsin
  • Minnesota is really close
  • Bucks County in Pennsylvania might flip to Trump and Trump could increase his margin in Pennsylvania
  • Trump might be doing better in urban areas
  • Wall Street is predominantly favoring Democrats as seven out of the ten biggest donations are Democratic candidates with Biden at top
Also bad news. Pennsylvania won't be discarding mail-in votes where signatures do not match. I still think Trump can win the state, but if he does, it might be by a hair-raising margin like in 2016.

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So, with those margins in all those states, it's really 2016 all over again.
 

Someone Awful

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So, with those margins in all those states, it's really 2016 all over again.
Could be. I want to see the actual results for myself before I make any possible changes to my prediction map, but I've said that this election is coming down to the wire and I think I will be right. I thought maybe the election would bring about more battleground states but if anything, we're narrowing down tossups.

Oh and one more thing, Baris set up a Paypal if you want to donate to do a Florida poll but if you choose to do that, you have to make a note that you want the state polled. To be honest, I'd rather he do Arizona since I'm a lot more confident in Florida than Arizona but I might send money since I want to see a possible Hispanic breakdown. You'll find the link in a video description of his latest videos.
 
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legalkochi

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So the Delaware primary happened tonight, and...

Wave of progressive primary challengers usurp moderate Delaware Democratic lawmakers

Four of the seven incumbent Democratic lawmakers on the ballot on Tuesday lost their seat to underdog challengers, a bellwether that the state's Democratic voter base appears to crave progressive law changes and candidates.

All four of the Democrats who defeated incumbents on Tuesday are either Black, openly gay or Muslim, and if they win in November would diversify the 62-person General Assembly's largely white lawmaking body.

The most powerful lawmaker to fall was four-decade incumbent Senate President Pro Tempore David McBride, who lost to Christiana Hospital social worker Marie Pinkney by 28 votes.

Tuesday's stunning usurps could tip the scales on left-leaning bills that need just a few more votes, such as stricter gun control, legal marijuana and a $15 minimum wage.

Tuesday's results can be seen as a testament to Delaware voters tiring of the lack of progress in the Delaware General Assembly, where lawmakers' traditions of compromise and closed-door meetings can prevent bills from being voted on or even discussed publicly.

Local political analysts and Democratic operatives predicted the coronavirus pandemic would largely hurt challengers on their quest to unseat established politicians.

What was already an uphill battle at the start of this year became exacerbated as many candidates pivoted to campaigning from home instead of door-knocking to win over voters face-to-face.

But progressive challengers were hopeful that the pandemic would make Delawareans more partial to changes that they were campaigning on, such as racial justice and expanded health care.

Lawmakers' truncated legislative session may have robbed incumbents of some of their ammo, since the forced closure of the General Assembly during the first two months of the pandemic had prevented lawmakers drafting and voting on bills.

But even when they couldn't do what they were elected to do, lawmakers this year pivoted toward becoming a go-between for constituents who are navigating the new normal under Gov. John Carney's state of emergency orders. That included helping unemployed residents get in touch with the overwhelmed Department of Labor if their benefits were stalled, or setting up food banks.

Primary races, especially in New Castle County, are considered the real contest because Democratic victors have an overwhelming advantage with registered voters.

Millennial LGBTQ activist takes step toward making history in bid for open Senate seat

In the race for one of two open Senate seats this year, Democrat Sarah McBride was one of the first candidates to declare victory on Tuesday night where she won more than 91 percent of the vote in her primary against Joe McCole.

The Democrats were vying to replace retiring longtime Sen. Harris McDowell, D-Wilmington North, who has been a lawmaker since 1976. McDowell endorsed McBride to replace him.

McBride now faces Republican Steve Washington in the Democrat-held district that covers Claymont, Bellefonte and Trolley Square. She would be the first openly transgender state senator elected to any statehouse in the country, if she wins.

Delaware's most powerful Senate Democrat loses his seat to 30-year-old Black woman

In his first fight against a Democrat since 1986, four-decade incumbent Senate President Pro Tempore David McBride, D-Hawk's Nest, lost to his opponent, Christiana Hospital social worker Marie Pinkney.

Pinkney won the race with 52 percent of the vote.

Like other progressive newcomers, Pinkney offered herself as a fresh option for voters who usually don't have a luxury of choices on the Democratic ballot. She was able to scrape a win against McBride, who holds the most powerful position in the Senate and had a big home-court advantage with more money, name recognition and political backing.

She'll go on to face Republican Alexander Homich in November. The New Castle County district stretches from Minquadale to Bear.

Moderate Democrat loses seat to Black progressive pushing for police reform

Corporate banker and progressive Democrat Larry Lambert succeeded in his bid to unseat moderate Rep. Raymond Seigfried, D-Brandywine Hundred.

Lambert has been a vocal advocate for more aggressive changes to Delaware policing laws amid police brutality protests that have swept across the state and country over the spring and summer.

Lambert came 86 votes shy of beating Seigfried, who has only enjoyed one term, in the 2018 primary. This time, he won by 652 votes, garnering a 59-percent approval overall.

Millennial Muslim woman unseats her former boss

Seventy-year-old, two-decade incumbent Rep. John Viola, D-Newark, lost his job on Tuesday after his former legislative staffer defeated him in the primary.

Madinah Wilson-Anton, 26, worked for Viola as a legislative aide before deciding to run against him. She scraped the win with 43 percent of the vote versus Viola's 41 percent.

She's one of a handful of progressive candidates trying to unseat longtime moderate Democrats and shake up the General Assembly to tip the scales toward progressive agenda items such as aggressive environmental protection and higher wages.

She also defeated Gabriel Olawale Adelagunja, chair of the Delaware African and Caribbean Affairs Commission, who was also running for the seat.

The Newark district sits east of the University of Delaware near Bear.

Openly gay man defeats incumbent after being criticized for dressing in drag

Rep. Earl Jaques, D-Glasgow, lost his seat to his primary opponent, Eric Morrison, a human resources project manager at JPMorgan Chase who earned 61 percent of the vote on Tuesday,

Jaques before this has had only one primary challenge since being elected in 2008.

Unlike the other six statehouse primary races between an incumbent and challenger, Morrison this year was able to out-raise and out-spend Jaques, according to campaign finance reports.

Morrison would be the first openly gay man elected to Delaware's General Assembly. He will go on to face Republican Tripp Keister and Libertarian William Hinds in November.

In 2019, Jaques publicly apologized after Delaware Online/The News Journal quoted him criticizing Morrison for hosting a fundraiser in drag, claiming that the practice was "so far off-base for our district, it’s unbelievable."

Former cop keeps his Senate seat, faces Republican in November

In another contest where progressives tried to unseat a longtime moderate Democrat, Sen. Bruce Ennis, D-Smyrna, defeated his Democratic rivals Kyra Hoffner, a retired mortgage originator, and Terrell Williams, a Middletown attorney, on Tuesday night.

Ennis earned about 54 percent of the vote on Tuesday.

He goes on to face Craig Pugh, a boatman in Leipsic, in the November general election. Pugh defeated Terrance Lee Baker, the director of a veteran advocacy nonprofit called Veterans Aimed Towards Awareness, in the Republican primary on Tuesday.

Democrat wins three-way primary to unseat vulnerable Republican

Attorney Kyle Evans Gay defeated social services administrator Denise Bowers and Eric Levin, who runs a K-12 tutoring service in Wilmington, on Tuesday. She earned nearly 57 percent of the vote in the three-way Democratic primary on Tuesday.

She will go on to face Sen. Cathy Cloutier, R-Heatherbrooke, who is considered one of the most vulnerable Republicans in New Castle County, in the general election for one of Delaware's northernmost districts that touches the Pennsylvania line.

This race is poised to be one of the most important statehouse contests of 2020, since the Delaware Democratic Party considers it to be one of their best chances to flip a seat in the 21-person Senate.

Trolley Square representative fends off challenger

In the district surrounding Trolley Square, Rep. Gerald Brady, D-Wilmington, keeps his seat despite facing a challenger, education activist Amy Soloman. He earned 62 percent of the vote.

Teacher wins Democratic primary for open Middletown seat

In Middletown, former legislative staffer and former Bayard School teacher Sherae’a Moore won the three-way Democratic primary to replace Rep. Quinton Johnson, D-Middletown, who announced in late June that he won't be seeking re-election after his term ends this fall.

Moore defeated attorney Matthew Wallace Powell and New Castle County Vo-Tech Board of Education President Yvette Santiago with 42 percent of the vote, and will go on to face Republican Dan Zitofky, a former New York City policeman and U.S. Navy veteran.

Talleyville representative staves off opponent

In one of Delaware's northernmost districts, Rep. Sean Matthews, D-Talleyville, gets to keep his seat after staving off Democratic challenger Keith James. He won with 81 percent of the vote.


Matthews, who has held the seat since 2014, has essentially won re-election, since there is no Republican running for the seat in November.

Democrat wins two-person primary in Camden-Wyoming, goes on to face Republican incumbent

In Kent County, Democrat Adewunmi Ade Kuforiji defeated Bob Haynes with more than 53 percent of the vote and will go on to face Rep. Lyndon Yearick, R-Camden-Wyoming, in the general election.

Incumbent insurance commissioner easily wins

Insurance Commissioner Trinidad Navarro defeated his Democratic opponent Kayode Abegunde on Tuesday with 64 percent of the vote, despite Navarro facing two harassment lawsuits from women that have worked for him during his first term.

Navarro will face Republican Julia Pillsbury in November.
It's so weird that in many states that the Democrats are trying to make themselves extinct, by dislodging a lot of "moderate" incumbents in favor of very progressive politicians. I'm not gonna interrupt them making a huge mistake, but it could produce great dividends for us, as it looks like the Republican Party is becoming a big tent.

The Republican primary here in Delaware had many voters picking conservative candidates for Governor and the Senate. They have a long shot at winning, but 2020 seems to be the year that keeps giving us surprises, so who knows at this point?
 

UselessIdiot

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Could be. I want to see the actual results for myself before I make any possible changes to my prediction map, but I've said that this election is coming down to the wire and I think I will be right. I thought maybe the election would bring about more battleground states but if anything, we're narrowing down tossups.

Oh and one more thing, Baris set up a Paypal if you want to donate to do a Florida poll but if you choose to do that, you have to make a note that you want the state polled. To be honest, I'd rather he do Arizona since I'm a lot more confident in Florida than Arizona but I might send money since I want to see a possible Hispanic breakdown. You'll find the link in a video description of his latest videos.
Florida becoming redder than Arizona? Who would have thought it was possible?
 
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