I immediately thought it was bullshit as I read it. It's such an obvious, unprovable smear attempt. It will convince the more exceptional useful idiots progressives, whilst simultaneously further embittering anyone on the Left who's critical of the establishment. The parallels with the treatment of Gabbard are obvious.Things aren't adding up with the Sanders story about him saying "women can't win". The nytimes had already reported on it back in 2018...and no such claim was reported.
“2018 NYT article contradicts @mj_lee @AsteadWesley sources on Elizabeth Warren & Bernie Sanders' meeting. We have now 2 sources questioning the authenticity of @CNN story. Bernie Sanders calling it a lie and this quote "neither tried to dissuade" https://t.co/BjTIBtElG3”twitter.com
Senator Elizabeth Warren and Senator Bernie Sanders met Wednesday night to discuss what has become obvious: They both are considering a presidential run in 2020.www.nytimes.com
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Shit ain't adding up. I guess Warren's decided to take the gloves off and just go full attack mode since she's dropping in the polls.
Iirc he also wants to give workers a permanent 25% stake in companies, which presents a whole host of problems in its own right.Unions. He wants to promote unions heavily and while the idea is charming, unions are practically a shitty way to enforce equality in the workplace. Sure they give you a voice but it's all on the union to actually fight for things and you better pray to the lord above you don't get a union that's lazy and in it for the monthly fees they take from you.
A better way to go about it is to actually fucking regulate things. I'm all for a small government but enforcing maternity leave and paid leave isn't going to massively overexpand the government and would do wonders to actually boost workforce morale and average happiness in the US.
Tell me, would you rather have unions or have the government mandate paid leave and maternity leave? I bet most average Americans would pick number two.
Will companies complain and downsize because of it? Of course, anything to save money but the short term downside is outweighed by the net positive in the general workforce. People might actually be more willing to work if they knew they at least get a vacation guaranteed.
Funny, that video doesn't say anything about 41%This video is good example of the situation that you and all your tranny commie friends will be in the coming decade....
I'll slightly contest this. In 2016, roughly 75% of former Bernie voters wound up voting for Hilary anyway. But 12% of them actually went for Trump, who was (correctly) seen as a big Fuck You to the party system. Less than 5% didn't vote at all.Ironically though, Bernie and Trump do share a similar weakness and strength: Their voter bases only want them. This plays well in Trump's hand because his support inside of the Republican party is through the roof; he has almost unanimous support inside of his own party. For Bernie it's a weakness because he does not have a similar amount of support. Whether he wins or loses the nomination, he creates a massive rift in his wake.
Anecdotal AF, but the majority of bernie supporting people online, as well as the associated mouthpieces (Kyle Kulinski bloc, Krystal Ball's news stuff and Jimmy Dore's club) have called establishment dems hacks of the highest order. I don't know if they can pull back that kind of rhetoric if Bernie gets screwed (again) and a Biden or Warren demand they kiss the ring.I'll slightly contest this. In 2016, roughly 75% of former Bernie voters wound up voting for Hilary anyway. But 12% of them actually went for Trump, who was (correctly) seen as a big Fuck You to the party system. Less than 5% didn't vote at all.
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That was in the year of Hilary visibly screwing over Bernie, Bernie caving to BLM, and his credibility-destroying endorsement of Clinton. And his betrayed supporters still voted for the architect of his destruction just because she had a (D) after her name.
Granted, they didn't go over to Clinton 100%; and that 12% Trump switchover arguably gave him the win in specific states. But 75% of Bernie's base were not loyal fanatics and toed the party line in the end.
Will this repeat in 2020? Who knows. The outsider shitlord is now our Troll-In-Chief, and the TDS infection has metastasized across the entire political left. I don't know how much cross-party appeal is possible now. But I think we don't have any evidence that super-loyal Bernie fans will be throwing the election.
True, the rabid fans might cause chaos within the primary or convention. But my cynical side thinks the Democratic Party has designed those mechanisms as a clever containment zone for its crazy wing.
Once the convention is over and the general election is on, everyone is expected to get in line and vote against the next Hitler. And those previously seeming fanatics go along with the scheme, since they can switch the object of their hate to the Republican.
I think it depends on what Bernie does himself, if he doesn't win the nomination.Anecdotal AF, but the majority of bernie supporting people online, as well as the associated mouthpieces (Kyle Kulinski bloc, Krystal Ball's news stuff and Jimmy Dore's club) have called establishment dems hacks of the highest order. I don't know if they can pull back that kind of rhetoric if Bernie gets screwed (again) and a Biden or Warren demand they kiss the ring.
Who knows how much those groups actually make of the entire Bernie wing of the party. But it could be surprising.
It's kinda funny, he got screwed both ways. Before the primary was done, he was asked if he would encourage his base to support Hillary. His response IIRC was "if I make an endorsement, don't listen to me. Decide for yourselves."I think it depends on what Bernie does himself, if he doesn't win the nomination.
In 2016, he bent over like a bitch and endorsed Hillary. Will he do the same this year? Most likely. Contrary to his fanatics, Bernie is an establishment shithead, too. How can anyone call someone "anti-establishment" when they've held office for decades? It's unreal.
But in the end, as I mentioned above, 75% of his supporters voted for Clinton anyway.Inevitably, both sides of the split shat on him: The hillarymen for not *fully* endorsing her (I.E. serving up his supporters on a silver platter), and his own supporters for capitulating to the Clinton dynasty.
Bernie's biggest obstacle if he were to win the nomination is this:Bernie would never win as an independent, I can tell you that much. He would barely win if he did get the nomination, his rabid fanbase is much smaller than Trump’s, and I would argue that most dems who toe the line are centrist to center right if anything. No way in hell would they vote for “I’m going to take yer money” Bernie Sanders.
If he decided to go the independent route it would be a Ron Paul move x10 specifically because his supporters are so insanely anti-anyone else and make up a majority of young democratic voters. Until another viable party comes around that’s why he’s sticking with dems and brown nosing shills like Hilary. He’s the very definition of a career politician doing whatever he can to stay in the race.
I actually know people who wrote in Bernie during the 2016 election instead of making themselves useful and finding a new candidate in Trump or Hilary. Whether I disagree with mainstream politicians or not, you can’t win a race that you’ve already lost. If you want to change this two party shit at least work with them until we can get to the point of ranked choice voting, ffs.
I think the reason the Farms seems right-leaning on a cursory glance is because of how bat-shit insane the left has gotten over the years. I've seen plenty of users openly identifying as left-wing or liberal, yet still take part in bashing the current state of the left. It might also be because it goes against the grain of hyper political correctness that has infested all forms of media as of late. There exist threads on here mocking Nazis and other right-wing 'tards, but they don't see as much activity as the ones mocking left-wing 'tards. Why? Because what are we supposed to say? "Wow, Nazis sure are bad people." Wow! What a revolutionary thought! No one's ever made that observation before!I suppose that’s why I like the farms more than most websites to discuss or research politics. While I absolutely think that this website has a hard right leaning base there’s no reason for us to hurl insults unless it’s warranted by sheer re.tarded behavior e.g. Ashy sperging over Bernie. As a hard leftist it’s difficult to find places on the internet where people are willing to have actual discussion instead of spouting one-line praxis tweets at one another. Yeah it might be autisti.c to say it but damn I love this place.
We already did that. It was called the 2016 election.When as a populace are we going to stop focusing on whether a woman or a black person can be president or not and elect someone who has an idea on how to fix issues that voters actually give a shit about? You could be a fucking invader from mars but if you’re registered as a U.S citizen and meet the qualifications to run with some decent fucking policy maybe I’ll get my apathetic ass up and vote.
The dems don't give a shit about Tulsi. They've branded her as a traitor of the highest degree for voting Present on the articles of impeachment.Anybody else watching the post-debate shitstorm on twitter? The dems are really coming for eachothers throats with some of the only unifying candidates, Tulsi and Yang, not even being on stage. Here I thought that the dems could be more civil with one another since they’re all seasoned politicians. Looks like we know who CNNs favorite is after tonight. Stupidpol wins again.
Unfortunately, the beliefs behind identity politics dictate that someone with a vagina and a higher concentration of melanin is automatically more qualified for leadership positions than the vagina-and-melanin deficient. Until the left collectively wakes up from their stupidity and realizes that race and gender don't matter that much, expect to see more of this shit as the election draws near.When as a populace are we going to stop focusing on whether a woman or a black person can be president or not and elect someone who has an idea on how to fix issues that voters actually give a shit about? You could be a fucking invader from mars but if you’re registered as a U.S citizen and meet the qualifications to run with some decent fucking policy maybe I’ll get my apathetic ass up and vote.
They were out to get her from the moment she announced she was running. Some examples from a year ago:The dems don't give a shit about Tulsi. They've branded her as a traitor of the highest degree for voting Present on the articles of impeachment.