2020 U.S. Spedsidential Election - Biden wins!(?)

Who is the best choice for President of the United States in 2020?


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The hard to believe is the sheer scale of it, and the fact it would basically require an organized cabal of fraud cross multiple international lines.

Possible? Yes.

But it is VERY CLEARLY Alex Jones territory.

And right now the evidence for it isn't very solid.
...and then you remember that Jones keeps on being proven right about everything.
 

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"[SCOTUSblog] began as a means of promoting the law firm then known as Goldstein & Howe, P.C"


"Notably, Goldstein served as second chair for Laurence Tribe and David Boies on behalf of Vice President Al Gore in Bush v. Gore. He also served as second chair for Laurence Tribe on New York Times Co. v. Tasini (decided in 2001)."

Laurence Tribe is a ghoul. Nice partner there.
You are missing the best part, their former financier was none other than Bloomberg News
 

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It really depends on if the GOP kneel to the Dems. There are demands for a special session of the State Legislature to clean up the rules for the January run off. The Governor seems very complacent about everything going on.

The behavior of state-level Republicans raises an interesting possibility. Up to now, I assumed the Democrats rigged it unilaterally and Republican state legislators would go ballistic because they'd know they'd be next if this level of rigging was allowed to stand.

However, consider the following. A bunch of high-level Republicans and Democrats have a deal. The high-level Republicans don't like Trump. The Democrats probably know that AntiFa and BLM riots need to be suppressed because even normies know something is wrong if their city gets burned down. We know they fucking hate people like AOC talking about socialism and defunding the police. What they all want is a neoliberal regime. Woke capitalism basically. Sweatshops in China, and with illegal immigrants in the US but a rainbow flag during pride month and bans for anyone dumb enough to not see that there are some things you don't question.

So the elections were not rigged down-ballot because the down-ballot Republicans are in on the deal. The heads of the state legislatures will certify because they're in on it too. What will happen in Georgia? Maybe the Republicans get that in return for giving up the White House? The midterms will produce a carefully balanced house - literally 50:50. So the Republicans have some way to enforce the deal because they get to keep the Senate and the house is split. Republicans would probably know how many Democrat legislators would back things like the Green New Deal or court-packing and they'd know those have no chance of passing. And they've got the Senate in case something terrible happens.

If this were the case I'd expect the new regime to be a carefully bipartisan technocratic one that doesn't really achieve anything. Woke scraps will be thrown to the left but capitalism will continue to shaft normal people. Immigration and free trade will be pushed. Bipartisan groups will work out careful chess moves to play against China - carrier battlegroups will prowl the seas and US allies will be bolstered. In Europe, NATO will announce that the US is back, baby, with more commitment to oppose Russian expansionism. One interesting thing about this is that you'd see the more strident members of each party decommissioned, a bit like the US and USSR decommissioned their intermediate-range nukes towards the end of the cold war. So when AOC said she 'might leave politics' she wasn't kidding. Her next primary will end with her losing to stuffed ballots to some DNC apparatchik and she knows it. Similarly, all the Republicans who cast doubt on the 2020 'election' will get primaried and will lose, with varying degrees of legitimacy. So the reason the entire Republican party seems to be hedging its bets is that they all sense that the fix is in for this election and if you cast any doubt on the legitimacy of the process you're gone next primary or next election. Conversely, if you hedge your bets a bit you might benefit from the new, post-democratic order.

So what you've got is a compromise. It's just it's the Compromise of 2020 arranged pre-election, not a compromise of 2021 arranged after it.

Would it work? I'm not convinced. Suppose the Democrats break the deal and win control of the Senate? At that point, the Republicans know they've been screwed. Or if the Democrats rig the midterms. The regime requires that two parties that absolutely hate each other have a core of people who are willing to work together.

Incidentally, Newsmax has a parade of Republicans saying 'fight it out in court but if you lose move on'

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=39WrSskl3XE
 
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Like I get Powell and Giuliani have been showboating alot, but to treat them as shit tier lawyers based on how they act in the media despite doing big things (Giuliani fucking up the mafia and Powell defending Flynn) is just retarded.

Could they showboat a lot? Yes
Does that make them shit-level lawyers? No

Not saying they are the best, but they certainly are not the worst lawyers out there.

Also I like how SCOTUSBlog ignores the detail of Pennsylvania dismissing an order from the SCOTUS which if unchecked could be bad nationwide depending on how SCOTUS rules in the future.
 

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Also, why did Biden underpreform Clinton in every city in the Rust Belt besides Philidelphia, Detroit, and Milwalkee when demographics of them and of Cleavelend, OH and Chicago, IL are similar?
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Dr J

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The hard to believe is the sheer scale of it, and the fact it would basically require an organized cabal of fraud cross multiple international lines.
This was clearly co-ordinated and as for an organised cabal, some of the most powerful people in the world oppose Trump. To them, this is nothing.
And right now the evidence for it isn't very solid.
We haven't seen the evidence. The best we've gotten so far is hints towards the kinds of evidence Powell will be presenting
 

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Did something happen that caused the doomering in here to skyrocket, or is everybody just very anxious about next week's fireworks?

Weekends usually have little to no news and developments, but lots of demoralizing media propaganda. Doomer Weekends are pretty consistent.


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Lol, at nonpartisan. Like I give a fuck what they say the Supreme Court will do. The Court already gave PA an order to separate ballots in case they need to make a ruling on them after the fact, a ruling they seemingly ignore to the vocal upset of one of the Justices. But they aren't going to even accept the President's Lawsuit?
 

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This was clearly co-ordinated and as for an organised cabal, some of the most powerful people in the world oppose Trump. To them, this is nothing.

We haven't seen the evidence. The best we've gotten so far is hints towards the kinds of evidence Powell will be presenting
Excactly. This right here. We have hints but we don't have the evidence itself that they are going to court with therefore we can't verify the veracity, admissibility and whether Sidney gets fucked by the courts so hard she becomes addicted to anal or the other way around. One thing is certain though, if any of these fuckers is blowharding nobody will forgive em, certainly not the courts or the American People themselves. The avenue they chose to walk they have to win, losing is not acceptable, and i gotta say so far not so good. Clock is ticking.
 

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You are missing the best part, their former financier was none other than Bloomberg News

Also I like how SCOTUSBlog ignores the detail of Pennsylvania dismissing an order from the SCOTUS which if unchecked could be bad nationwide depending on how SCOTUS rules in the future.

Lol, at nonpartisan. Like I give a fuck what they say the Supreme Court will do. The Court already gave PA an order to separate ballots in case they need to make a ruling on them after the fact, a ruling they seemingly ignore to the vocal upset of one of the Justices. But they aren't going to even accept the President's Lawsuit?
I brought it up, because the other day I was trying to find a good place to learn/listen to the SCOTUS stuff in preparation for things if/when they hit the supreme court. This website was suggested, but perhaps they aren't as non-partisan as they claim. Following the money, does it ever lie?
 

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Truthboi

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The behavior of state-level Republicans raises an interesting possibility. Up to now, I assumed the Democrats rigged it unilaterally and Republican state legislators would go ballistic because they'd know they'd be next if this level of rigging was allowed to stand.

However, consider the following. A bunch of high-level Republicans and Democrats have a deal. The high-level Republicans don't like Trump. The Democrats probably know that AntiFa and BLM riots need to be suppressed because even normies know something is wrong if their city gets burned down. We know they fucking hate people like AOC talking about socialism and defunding the police. What they all want is a neoliberal regime. Woke capitalism basically. Sweatshops in China, and with illegal immigrants in the US but a rainbow flag during pride month and bans for anyone dumb enough to not see that there are some things you don't question.

So the elections were not rigged down-ballot because the down-ballot Republicans are in on the deal. The heads of the state legislatures will certify because they're in on it too. What will happen in Georgia? Maybe the Republicans get that in return for giving up the White House? The midterms will produce a carefully balanced house - literally 50:50. So the Republicans have some way to enforce the deal because they get to keep the Senate and the house is split. Republicans would probably know how many Democrat legislators would back things like the Green New Deal or court-packing and they'd know those have no chance of passing. And they've got the Senate in case something terrible happens.

If this were the case I'd expect the new regime to be a carefully bipartisan technocratic one that doesn't really achieve anything. Woke scraps will be thrown to the left but capitalism will continue to shaft normal people. Immigration and free trade will be pushed. Bipartisan groups will work out careful chess moves to play against China - carrier battlegroups will prowl the seas and US allies will be bolstered. In Europe, NATO will announce that the US is back, baby, with more commitment to oppose Russian expansionism. One interesting thing about this is that you'd see the more strident members of each party decommissioned, a bit like the US and USSR decommissioned their intermediate-range nukes towards the end of the cold war. So when AOC said she 'might leave politics' she wasn't kidding. Her next primary will end with her losing to stuffed ballots to some DNC apparatchik and she knows it. Similarly, all the Republicans who cast doubt on the 2020 'election' will get primaried and will lose, with varying degrees of legitimacy. So the reason the entire Republican party seems to be hedging its bets is that they all sense that the fix is in for this election and if you cast any doubt on the legitimacy of the process you're gone next primary or next election. Conversely, if you hedge your bets a bit you might benefit from the new, post-democratic order.

So what you've got is a compromise. It's just it's the Compromise of 2020 arranged pre-election, not a compromise of 2021 arranged before it.

Would it work? I'm not convinced. Suppose the Democrats break the deal and win control of the Senate? At that point, the Republicans know they've been screwed. Or if the Democrats rig the midterms. The regime requires that two parties that absolutely hate each other have a core of people who are willing to work together.

Incidentally, Newsmax has a parade of Republicans saying 'fight it out in court but if you lose move on'

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=39WrSskl3XE
I disagree with this theory because I don't think the fraud was a highly coordinated effort. It looks to be a few bad actors in certain swing states panicking really hard over Trump's numbers that they sent out mail-in ballots. It doesn't help that if this was planned by a grand level of conspiracy Biden would've been called as President much earlier than when he had actually been called. Furthermore, the fraud wouldn't have been this obvious if it was a calculated play. The next thing that dampers a hole in the theory is that senate Republicans are siding with Trump including McConnell who changed his tune from wanting to help Biden to helping Trump.

While it could be a case of hedging their bets, it would be much more quick to get no one at all to side with Trump and just shrug off his complaining to make Biden look legitimate. The last thing I'd like to point out is the actions of the Biden-Harris team since Harris is also hedging her bets since she could just quit the senate right now if the fix was in and they wouldn't be begging for money for both a transition of power along with fighting Trump's legal efforts.

Though I would disagree with you on AOC's meaning to quit politics as I think that is more of a childish tantrum than anything since AOC is an unhinged maniac given she did make a hitlist of Trump supporters which she deleted after days of backlash.

Basically there are too many factors being weird in this case that really make this look too unorganized to be a super coordinated conspiracy.
 

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I brought it up, because the other day I was trying to find a good place to learn/listen to the SCOTUS stuff in preparation for things if/when they hit the supreme court. This website was suggested, but perhaps they aren't as non-partisan as they claim. Following the money, does it ever lie?

His bias is in the other side but warned on his sleeve, but Uncivil Law on YouTube does a very dry coverage of Supreme Court Cases where he listens to the pleadings with minimal commentary.

He interacts with Nick Rekeita, though they don't always agree, but if the association is a poison pill don't bother. I've found him acceptible if I'm interested in the case or procedure as the content is largely from the hearing and not him, but he also adds nothing compelling if I'm not invested in the subject.
 

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Excactly. This right here. We have hints but we don't have the evidence itself that they are going to court with therefore we can't verify the veracity, admissibility and whether Sidney gets fucked by the courts so hard she becomes addicted to anal or the other way around. One thing is certain though, if any of these fuckers is blowharding nobody will forgive em, certainly not the courts or the American People themselves. The avenue they chose to walk they have to win, losing is not acceptable.

Ok, suppose my theory posted above is correct. In that case, Powell will crash and burn in court. You'll see Republicans come out and say 'Well it looks like we tried our best and failed. Time to move on'. All the other more credible accusations of ballot stuffing will fail in court. The SCOTUS won't take up the cases. On the upside, the Republicans will win the runoffs in Georgia. So we'll have a Democrat White House, a Republican Senate, and a razor-thin majority in the House. The Democrats will get rid of people like AOC. The Republicans will get rid of anyone who casts doubt on the glorious show of democracy that is the 2020 election.

The only problem is, it's all bullshit. Both parties have done a backroom deal to get rid of the most obnoxious members of their party and to tolerate massive chicanery to do it. You won't see any non neoliberal/neocon politicians under the new regime. No Bernies, no Trumps, No AOC. Just endless technocratic non-entities with zero support who nevertheless seem to win.

If you want a vision of the future, imagine a corporation that makes all its stuff in sweatshops in China having a rainbow logo for Pride month forever.
 

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So uh. Why do multiple Wayne County Precincts have the exact same Trump Vote counts? But different Biden votes? Which add up to the wrong Total Votes?

Simple. What happened in Wayne County looked a bit like an election in the sense that people voted but the result had nothing to do with the actual numbers of votes.
 

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