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It's all about power for the government. Notice after every massacre you see these disarmament laws designed to fuck over good working people
23 dead, 1 police officer killed in Nova Scotia night ambush using RCMP vehicle, wearing uniform - Deadliest mass shooting in Canadian history, deadliest rural mass shooting in modern history
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Yeah, what struck me with this guy is even if this was in a well armed area of the US, such as Texas, where spree shooting tends to be terminally discouraged by a well armed populace, nobody would have stopped him until it was too late. Because legal gun owners don’t shoot at cops. (Now if he had tried this on the South Side of Chicago? Well yeah he still would have succeeded. Even though they would shoot at cops, they rarely hit what they are aiming at. )
And Trudeau is using the mass shooting to ban "assault style weapons"
www.cnn.com
New list of banned guns in Canada
Should be noted that the Conservative party didn't fight this at all and they have more seats.
Canada bans assault-style weapons after its worst ever mass murder
Assault-style weapons are banned in Canada effective immediately, the country's prime minister said Friday. The move comes less than two weeks after Canada's deadliest rampage in modern history.
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Should be noted that the Conservative party didn't fight this at all and they have more seats.
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And Trudeau is using the mass shooting to ban "assault style weapons"
New list of banned guns in CanadaCanada bans assault-style weapons after its worst ever mass murder
Assault-style weapons are banned in Canada effective immediately, the country's prime minister said Friday. The move comes less than two weeks after Canada's deadliest rampage in modern history.
Should be noted that the Conservative party didn't fight this at all and they have more seats.
I live in Canada. It's almost impossible to get these guns unless you have a very exclusive permit. There is nothing equivalent to concealed or open carry in Canada either. The average city dwelling Canadian citizen does not own a gun (don't be fooled for the Michael Moore ''Lie'' of Canada having loads of guns per person. It's not true). So this won't be a big deal for most people as many won't care. Most gun owners in Canada are hunters and long guns are still okay as far as I know.
He likely acquired these guns like most criminals - illegal arms dealer.
Also it's not just Trudeau being the first P.M to induce even more restriction. Harper put many as well. Rumors back then is they wanted to create a ''mental health roster'' to make sure it was impossible for any mentally ill person to even qualify to use a long gun for hunting. The Tories did a ton of crap as well. Even though they pretended they didn't.
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After review, for those whom it may concern:And Trudeau is using the mass shooting to ban "assault style weapons"
New list of banned guns in CanadaCanada bans assault-style weapons after its worst ever mass murder
Assault-style weapons are banned in Canada effective immediately, the country's prime minister said Friday. The move comes less than two weeks after Canada's deadliest rampage in modern history.
Should be noted that the Conservative party didn't fight this at all and they have more seats.
Grandfathering is an option to the
It all sucks, but silver linings and all that jazz.
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Exhaustive list. Archive.
Main article archive.
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Supposedly we should have something like 1 in 5 people owning a gun here but that's far too high. We're supposed to have just over 2 million guns registered and over 10 million unregistered. Population of Canada is 37.59 million so either we're counting all guns, including those in shops not owned by anyone yet or someone in the country has thousands of guns.
We might also be considered airsoft guns on the list too since we have stupid laws on those too.
Here I was hoping AR-10's would still be fine. Oh well, least there's no regulations on antique guns
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Super-Chevy454
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There's some discussions about the Nova Scotia shooting on City-Data forums but one user give a very big blind trust the Canadian government. I saved it for posterity. http://archive.vn/OCC1j#selection-1274.4-1274.7
Some of the things on that list should maybe have already been banned, like the Javelin Missile Launcher, or Recoiless Rifles. Looks like even M1A (Garand) might be affected... but not SKS? A small file and 30 seconds later you have a 10 round clip... with a bayonet. I'm going to dig into the list some more.
Link to full list : https://archive.md/kFtFQ
Eta; it literally looks like a list of "scary looking guns" and "scary named guns", along with things that maybe noone really needs anymore, like recoiless rifles circa 1941, my personal favorite is now a ban on German Mortar 1934 Granatawerfer, because we all know that one guy who seems friendly, but he's showed you that one flag he owns....
Eta 2; gun grab boogaloo. I think the gun laws enacted yesterday needs its own thread, even though it was in response to this tragedy.
There are things on that ban list that I'm pretty sure have no relation to any attack, ever.
Link to full list : https://archive.md/kFtFQ
Eta; it literally looks like a list of "scary looking guns" and "scary named guns", along with things that maybe noone really needs anymore, like recoiless rifles circa 1941, my personal favorite is now a ban on German Mortar 1934 Granatawerfer, because we all know that one guy who seems friendly, but he's showed you that one flag he owns....
Eta 2; gun grab boogaloo. I think the gun laws enacted yesterday needs its own thread, even though it was in response to this tragedy.
There are things on that ban list that I'm pretty sure have no relation to any attack, ever.
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Sorry for the bump, Styx and some Youtubers vlogged about Trudeau bans.
The only difference between CCP and JT's Liberals is that the fucking Liberals want YOU to give up your rights, where you dont have any under the CCP. I'll be editing this post as I watch the video.
2:52ish ; JT's Liberals are a minority government, if they had not agreed to work with the NDP and Green party, the Conservatives would have control of the government. I'm pretty sure JT has got some of the same powers that Little Hitlerets have in the states. This fucking asshole would have the world think that every Canadian is a good little jackboot licker. He got elected because middle aged housewives creamed their panties "Ohmagawd hes so young and hawt! Who cares if he has exactly the same "fuckdalilguy" attitude his father has? OMG LEGAL WEEEEEEEEEEEED."
So him and his team obviously used some research. I mean, I'd rather have a real estate/reality TV star than a fucking failed drama teacher who thinks its OK for him to wear blackface, have a very "rules are for thee, not for me," attitude when it comes to NO GOING TO YOUR COTTAGES DUMBASS. You aren't the only one seperated from family, retard. You are the only one who ignored Do-Not-Travel restrictions to go see your wife, who is OBVIOUSLY cucking him, considering she infected Idris Ilba with covid but not justin trudeau.
3:50ish.
He's correct, blackpowder guns are grandfathered in under Antique Firearms. So you can't have any handgun with modern features, unless you are
1)registerered gun owner,
2)restricted license holder,
3)have the gun in a two factor lock seperate from ammo (two factor as in trigger lock and safe, or gun case and trigger lock)
4)locked in a gun safe, which cannot hold the ammo for any of the weapons, must be in a second secure safe.
5)following that, you can only take you pistol to your registered gun range.
6)You must apply to be able to even remove this gun from its safe for transport.
7)this application only covers transport to and from your registered gun range
this application make take up to 2 weeks to process in normal times9)you must directly go to/from range/home. You can be arrested if you need gas on the way home.
10)if you happen to not have a GRI (gun range instructor) at the range when you show up, you cannot use your handgun. It may only be used under the supervision of a GRI.
11) if you follow ALL these, your name is still cross referenced every 24hrs against a national crime database. If you do anything more violent than honking at a car, your license and guns get yanked for minimum 90 days.
You think anyone who goes through all this legal bullshit to be able to shoot a Glock 19 at paper targets is going to risk that by selling guns to criminals? Fuck no. Criminals are gonna skip all that by running a few points of meth for whatever local gang happens to control that area and get their guns through the gang.
Or you could get blackpowder stuff mailed to you wth minimal registration. Don't think I've ever heard of a criminal legitimately using blackpowder weapons yet, but I could be wrong.
4:30ish. There is so much to unpack here.
The Long Gun Registry was a massive failure. The government spent millions on legislature to register hunting rifles and shotguns across Canada, with fines for unregistered guns. Now. Theoretically, this allowed the RCMP to get serial numbers and potentially ballistics (not sure if they went that far) on your long guns. Great way to see if criminals are stealing/buying "under the table" to do their shit.
Problem is, most gun crime beforehand and since, is unregistered handgun crime. The same people who registered their hunting .270 5 round bolt action still used their legal guns the exact same way. Very few cases where registered longguns have been used in crimes because, shockingly, those people who register their guns dont use them for criminal activites.
5:10ish
A Bushmaster target rifle, marked as a target rifle, is now treated as an AR15 due to the similarities between these guns and assault rifles. These guns sold to civillians already had restrictions such as magazine size caps, ammo type bans and semi auto fire only. The issue, is that the government literally banned scary looking or sounding guns.
I'm not a gun nut, but I'm pretty sure a .223/5.56 round is less damaging than say a 7.62 round gun in regards to projectile weight and velocity math, which i could be totally wrong on. BUT. The AR15, literally all variants, all banned. Was already restricted in the ways i talked about. 5 round magazine. Registered.
The SKS rifle, which is designed to shoot FMJ 7.62MM ammo, is barely even required to be registered. It has a hard cap of 5 round magazines, but heres the kicker. There are 10 round and 20 round magazines available for it. To make a 5 round magazine, a gunsmith welds a restriction plate into the magazine. Good 8dea right? Well, there are magazines that got grandfathered through, that are legal to have in their full capacity.
Thsts right, if you have one of these older magazines you dont have to modify it. Only brand new magazines and ones sold with rifles from gun shops (depacked from their grease) need to be modified before sale. You can buy a grandfathered 20 round magazine with your SKS, as long as it isn't new or from a gun shop.
Here's the better part: that restriction plate takes 30 seconds with a file to remove, and there isn't a registry on which magazines have been grandfathered. It's just magazines that come with registered rifles that have been grandfathered. So... as long as you can say it was purchased at the same time as a grandfathered SKS, they will no be restricted.
It's idiotic, considering that the SKS is best known for being an accurate, battle tested rifle, and the AR15 is a target shooters rifle.
I could go on about how every gun law in Canada has been brain dead knee jerk reactions since the 80's. I won't, bc there is so much to unpack you could write an essay.
God damned tragedy this occured though I cant press a big enough X to doubt that stricter gun laws would have helped. Maybe if rural areas weren't stretched thin in police officers so that hellhole cities with thousands of homeless could be patrolled more often for social distancing.
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Heya folks. Few notes on the SKS. Seeing how it's the most popular gun in Canada, felt like contributing some info.
It uses the Soviet 7.62x39mm round, same as the AK-47/AKM. (Not to be confused with 7.62mm NATO which is 7.62x51mm, heavier and more powerful) It's a hog of a round, heavier than the .223/5.56mm but slower. The .223 is faster and has a flatter ballistic trajectory (drops less over long range) making it far more accurate at medium and long ranges (past 75-100 meters). [edit: Both 7.62x39mm and 5.56mm are plenty lethal and used by militaries worldwide. Soviets/Russia went to a new cartridge in '74, but still uses 7.62x39mm to this day in some rifles]
SKS doesn't lend itself much to accuracy due to several factors such as loose wooden stocks after rotting in a warehouse for 50 years, that famous Soviet build quality, the design of the gas tube, etc. People try to bed the action and do other mods to make it more accurate, but it's like polishing a turd at that point. May as well spend money on a better gun. There are three main variants: Chinese, Russian, and Yugo. Yugos are rarer and expensive, while Chinese and Russian can be had from $200 to $400 CDN depending on condition.
The main SKS variant (making 98% of SKSes out there) has a non-detachable 10 round mag, pinned (limited) to 5 rounds. There are aftermarket magazines for that are detachable, hold 30 rounds (while still being pinned to 5 rounds). They're still kinda crap though. SKS-D or some other variant does support standard AK mags from the factory, but those are harder to find in Canada than, well, AK mags.
As for its legal status, you can privately buy an SKS in Canada from a private seller or a store without any registration or waiting period. Stores are required to keep records, private sellers are not. You still need a PAL (non-restricted firearms license) in any case.
As for the gun ban, everything has pretty much been said. Outlook not so good.
It uses the Soviet 7.62x39mm round, same as the AK-47/AKM. (Not to be confused with 7.62mm NATO which is 7.62x51mm, heavier and more powerful) It's a hog of a round, heavier than the .223/5.56mm but slower. The .223 is faster and has a flatter ballistic trajectory (drops less over long range) making it far more accurate at medium and long ranges (past 75-100 meters). [edit: Both 7.62x39mm and 5.56mm are plenty lethal and used by militaries worldwide. Soviets/Russia went to a new cartridge in '74, but still uses 7.62x39mm to this day in some rifles]
SKS doesn't lend itself much to accuracy due to several factors such as loose wooden stocks after rotting in a warehouse for 50 years, that famous Soviet build quality, the design of the gas tube, etc. People try to bed the action and do other mods to make it more accurate, but it's like polishing a turd at that point. May as well spend money on a better gun. There are three main variants: Chinese, Russian, and Yugo. Yugos are rarer and expensive, while Chinese and Russian can be had from $200 to $400 CDN depending on condition.
The main SKS variant (making 98% of SKSes out there) has a non-detachable 10 round mag, pinned (limited) to 5 rounds. There are aftermarket magazines for that are detachable, hold 30 rounds (while still being pinned to 5 rounds). They're still kinda crap though. SKS-D or some other variant does support standard AK mags from the factory, but those are harder to find in Canada than, well, AK mags.
As for its legal status, you can privately buy an SKS in Canada from a private seller or a store without any registration or waiting period. Stores are required to keep records, private sellers are not. You still need a PAL (non-restricted firearms license) in any case.
As for the gun ban, everything has pretty much been said. Outlook not so good.
Now we know why they shot at the fire hall
- An RCMP cruiser and an officer were stationed at the hall. At the time, police forces across the province were on the lookout for the gunman, who was impersonating an officer and driving a replica RCMP cruiser, and was continuing to kill as he moved from community to community.
- Sources confirmed the account of a witness who previously told CBC that two RCMP officers pulled up to the firehall, located about 25 kilometres east of Portapique, and opened fire at around 10:30 a.m. local time. The incident was over in a few seconds and the officers took off.
So the RCMP officers decided to just open fire upon another police officer, and risked the lives of everybody in that building? A building, I might add, which was being used as a refuge for residents to be safe during the situation?
Said officers need to be fired. That's completely idiotic and they could have easily killed innocent people due to their panic and stupidity.
The widower of one of the victims has launched a class-action lawsuit against the estate of Gabriel Wortman.
Too much work to just use the radio and ask if anyone is at that location I guess.
So it turns out police were warned about Wortman having guns and wanting to kill a cop back in 2011.
"Two families of the victims of the Nova Scotia mass shooting are launching a proposed class-action lawsuit against the RCMP that questions not just how the force handled the rampage, but its actions in the weeks that followed."
"The lawsuit said one vehicle was released back to an unnamed family with gun casings and body parts still inside. A family member "was required to clean the car themselves.""
What. The. Fuck.
I think it means "human remains", which could be even blood splatter or hair or such. Still messed up though.
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