23 dead, 1 police officer killed in Nova Scotia night ambush using RCMP vehicle, wearing uniform - Deadliest mass shooting in Canadian history, deadliest rural mass shooting in modern history

wry wrangler

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Can you point to a single American publication that would dare to call a spree killer an "undercover operation" or are you just trying to play the "whataboutism" game?

The article didn't say that; read it and not only the headline. No, I was advising you that your suggestion the Canadian media is "still somewhat uncucked" to be false, and invited you to consider the CBC's coverage of native issues or transgenderism as examples. It's true, Canadian media is essentially a vehicle to dispense neoliberal propaganda.
 

Adolf Honkler

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The article didn't say that; read it and not only the headline. No, I was advising you that your suggestion the Canadian media is "still somewhat uncucked" to be false, and invited you to consider the CBC's coverage of native issues or transgenderism as examples. It's true, Canadian media is essentially a vehicle to dispense neoliberal propaganda.

My apologies for not reading Canadian journalist tripe and going with OPs editorialized headlines. Let me rephrase. Can you think of a single american publication that would dare ELUDE TO an undercover operation in light of a spree killing.

Canada is maybe THE MOST cucked country on Earth. And that's taking Sweden into account.

Should I have been more clear when I stated they ban bad words? How should I have phrased it?

I'll rephrase further for Canadians mad that I misrepresented their shithole of a country: "DAMN LOL AMERICA WOULDNT HAVE SAID THAT", hopefully Canadians can dissect this message now. I suppose theyre not all native speakers :woo:
 

Save the Loli

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The reason this is alluded to as an undercover operation is because it's sloppy as all hell that even the media can't cover it up.

Plus most American mass shootings don't have as many weird factors as this one, Adam Lanza wasn't some glowing deep state agent trying to get guns banned by shooting up Sandy Hook, he was just a lunatic who snapped. The most comparable one to this is Stephen Paddock's massacre in Vegas (another successful older guy who meets none of the typical profile of mass shooter), but his handlers were clearly very good unlike the RCMP morons dealing with Wortman. And they were, since it probably involved the FBI field office in Las Vegas which is full of experienced agents and also has very deep links to organized crime.
 

Badungus Kabungus

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RCMP is doing damage control, but sloppily. The new National Post article suggests Wortman wasn't an informant, but a possible implication of that is that his friend, Peter Alan Griffon was. Otherwise why all the hush-hush over confidential informants in the first place? The two have a history together and allegedly were pretty close.

RCMP did not use confidential informants to obtain search warrants in N.S. mass shooting investigation, court told
http://archive.vn/ppwME

From 2015:
Peter Griffon, former N.S. man linked to drug cartel, subject of arrest warrants
http://archive.vn/kkHwO
 

Behavioral Sink

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The crackpot blogger tried to take down a premier in the 80s. (The Nova Scotia equivalent of a state governor.) Gerald Regan was widely known to be a sexual predator, but it was covered up for years.

Nearly three dozen women, most of whom did not even know the others existed — babysitters, office staff, job seekers, law clients, reporters, party workers, a legislative page, even a corporate executive — had told police what often seemed to be strikingly similar stories detailing how they’d allegedly been attacked by Regan in incidents that had supposedly happened over a forty-year period between the fifties and the nineties.

Source: https://stephenkimber.com/aphrodisiac-sex-politics-power-and-gerald-regan/

Kimber wrote a book called Not Guilty about the case, I'll put the Marshall excerpt in a spoiler in case it's a tangent anyone is interested in.

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Bender

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I have a feeling this is going to lead to more conflict between Americans and American police, with the defence of "I thought he was impersonating a cop like what happened in Canada".
Well, I guess I was kind of right with the riots and shit happening, I just got the excuse wrong.
 

Army Burger

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This reconstruction of events by the Halifax Examiner shows just how god damn incompetent the RCMP are.

  • At no point in the two-day rampage did the RCMP get in front of the killer

  • Sources within the RCMP say a major problem was that communications between various RCMP units was never co-ordinated. “Everyone was on their own channels,” the source said. “Nothing was synchronized. They could have gone to a single channel and brought in the municipal cops as well, but for some reason they didn’t. It was like no one was in charge.”

  • RCMP narrative changed from Wortman being a clever criminal who planned this out to "there was no evidence he was pre-planning this"

  • The first RCMP officers on scene were hesitant to do anything because of the labour code violation the RCMP were charged with after the 2015 shooting in Moncton, New Brunswick that killed three RCMP officers.

  • Suggestions that the RCMP gave the scene a F.I.D.O. treatment. (Fuck it, drive on, meaning wait for things to calm down before making a move)

  • Some mounties were frustrated with this and wanted to do something (as they had been trained to do) but were threatened with being fired.

  • RCMP did not alert the two municipal police forces on either side of Portapique, in Truro, 20 minutes away, and Amherst, 45 minutes away. This is significant because in both police forces most of the members have tactical training, a necessity in small departments where any officer could find themselves in a difficult incident without much or any notice. Both police forces had considerable numbers of officers primed and ready to go.

  • By 1AM RCMP knew that Wortman had a replica police cruiser.

  • At 1:07 a.m., therefore, the RCMP clearly knew the identity of the suspect and that he had killed many people. The RCMP was not sure about how many because the fires were still raging. Yet the RCMP advised police departments outside the scene to look for this incredibly dangerous person but did not themselves or ask anyone to put up roadblocks and lock down the area. Most importantly, in its tweets the RCMP fudged the markings on the car. The local man who was shot by GW told them it was a police car. The RCMP described it as a former police car with a Canada decal on it.

  • Informed sources close to the investigation say it was around this time that that an Amherst Police officer was told that the RCMP did not need that force’s assistance because the Mounties had deemed the situation to be a murder-suicide and that the shooter was dead. Amherst Police Chief Dwayne Pike denied in an interview that such a conversation took place. When told about the chief’s denial, the original source persisted in his claim. “Municipal forces like Amherst depend upon the RCMP for lab services,” the source said. “They don’t want to say anything to piss off the Mounties because they will cut them off from the labs. That would cost the locals a lot of money. The RCMP plays rough and the local forces know it, so they keep their mouths shut.”

  • Around 10:30 a.m., two Mounties emerged from a black Hyundai Elantra and started firing toward an emergency services worker outside the Onslow Belmont Fire Brigade Fire Hall. The Mounties shot up the fire hall and just missed hitting people inside while causing considerable damage to equipment. One of the Mounties went into the fire hall for a moment and then the two left in the Hyundai.
 

Army Burger

RIP John Lewis
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You know, everyone gives American police flak for the police brutality and all, but at least they do their damn jobs! I'm not sure what's up with the RCMP, but either it's a lack of funding and training specific to that area or some sort of petty nepotism going on to get a little tin foil here.
It's typical incompetent old boy's club management at work.


Court hearing starts today for an application to unseal search warrants related to the investigation. Could take until the end of the week before we get a ruling.
 

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