24 Sep 2019 - Phil Slices Up America Like Pizza! -

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Also, what a shock that he's got a giant Native American space cut out there but fuck all those tribes from the UNITED STATES (REMNANT). I guess the evil white cis male fasict heteronormative patriarchal racists just get to keep mistreating them. There's so much wrong here, I'm just going to stop now.
It's also pretty colonialist white devil of him to assume that all Native American tribes are one big happy family and didn't have their own conflicts among different tribes.

But I really like the name "ND$GENOLS CNNFED". Very creative, very cool.
 

Oskar Dirlewanger

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I think the american Jews should also get their own nation state. I think the area pictured in dark blue on the following map would fit just right:

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Disgruntled Pupper

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Why do these progressive socialist types always want to give America to Mexico when the Aztec empire never extended anywhere close to the border, the northern half of Mexico actually belonged to various tribes, some of which are still around today, and any Mexican on American soil is an imperialist invader who actual natives don't want around.

Sorry Phil, but literally everyone wants to remove burrito.
 

Alex Krycek

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I like how he took New Mexico, which has a ton of Native Tribes that are generally either isolationist or very Pro-Union and cedes them to Aztlan, which will presumably be a Chicano dominated state. That’s also funny because almost all Chicanos I know have recent European Ancestry. Plenty of Tejanos do too and about half don’t even speak Spanish as a Native Language at this point.

It’s almost like he’s saying “The Conquistadors didn’t go far enough! The legacy of Cortez must reign supreme! So long as it wears red!”

Where the fuck are Asians going to live?
 

Cr0w

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The hell's 'Aztlan' about, anyways? I get it has some historical/ancestral significance, but isn't it just some pipe-dream state thought up by a bunch of "Mexican"-Americans nowadays?


I like how he took New Mexico, which has a ton of Native Tribes that are generally either isolationist or very Pro-Union and cedes them to Aztlan, which will presumably be a Chicano dominated state. That’s also funny because almost all Chicanos I know have recent European Ancestry. Plenty of Tejanos do too and about half don’t even speak Spanish as a Native Language at this point.

It’s almost like he’s saying “The Conquistadors didn’t go far enough! The legacy of Cortez must reign supreme! So long as it wears red!”

Where the fuck are Asians going to live?
Yeah, that's exactly what I was thinking. Chicanos are hardly hispanic anymore, most of them are as white as any average 'American'. I hadn't thought about that angle of the native tribes losing their homes again though, that's a bit to think on. As far as Asians go, judging by his divisions he'll probably stuff them in crates and ship them back to Asia.
 
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Alex Krycek

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The hell's 'Aztlan' about, anyways? I get it has some historical/ancestral significance, but isn't it just some pipe-dream state thought up by a bunch of "Mexican"-Americans nowadays?
In Aztec mythology Aztlan was their original homeland and they migrated south to what’s now Central Mexico presumably because Athabaskan people’s like Navajo and Apache were migrating into the region and kicked them out. Because their language is connected to the Ute of Utah, New Mexico, and Colorado this makes some sense. However they’re also acting like they are all the legacy of the Aztecs for that reason when I’m fact the Aztec Nahua peoples weren’t even the largest Indigenous group in Mexico. That distinction goes to the Mixtec-Zapotec people. The Tarascans were also pretty large at one time, but kind of received special treatment for the Spanish for being allies against the Aztecs and Tarascan women were renowned for their beauty by Spanish settlers because they never did all the bizarre body modifications (tattoos, piercing, cranial deformation - all were forbidden in the Tarascan religion) others did and so a lot of them who even identify with the culture have some European ancestry, Mayans also outnumbered the Aztecs. Most Northern Mexicans with indigenous ancestry come from Yaqui or Cohuilatecan stock. Now why is any of this important? Because the Aztecs fucking hated all of these people, were almost perpetually at war with them, and often sacrificed them after battles. The legacy they’re trying to claim with Aztlan is almost identical to the Nazi German concept of Lebensraum when framed this way.

Yeah, that's exactly what I was thinking. Chicanos are hardly hispanic anymore, most of them are as white as any average 'American'. I hadn't thought about that angle of the native tribes losing their homes again though, that's a bit to think on. As far as Asians go, judging by his divisions he'll probably stuff them in crates and ship them back to Asia.
I’ve known a ton of Chicanos and Tejanos in my lifetime and it’s actually kind of funny how they don’t like people from Mexico usually and identify with their own communities or other white people. Hell the North and South Chicanos don’t even really get along.

That’s the whole thing, this is fiction but being the History sperg I am I like to analyze stuff like this because it amuses me. In trying to be indigenous he’s actually erasing them. Most Natives I know are either content with the current system or grumble a bit about poverty on the Res but admit that it’s better than nothing (or outright say it’s their own communities fault). I don’t see a Chicano Socialist Dictatorship helping that in any way. Really worked out great in Ecuador, Bolivia, and Venezuela where now Natives are among the poorest citizens even if in Bolivia the regime is officially pro-Indigenous, that’s mostly for the Aymara, not other groups.!

I like to think he’s just going to give the Chinese Florida and call it a day to try to pay off the massive debt that this plan would cause, but even they don’t want it so it exists in this perpetual state of lawless limbo run by bikers, but knowing his headcanon it’s probably going to be run by Cubans.

I love alternate history, this is one of the funnier scenarios.
 
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