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5/15/2018 - DSP causes a Twitter shitstorm by being toxic towards streaming community

Discussion in 'Phil Burnell, the Onion Man' started by WarehouseKiwi, May 15, 2018.

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How fucked do you think Phil is from this Tweet?

Poll closed Yesterday at 6:28 PM.
  1. Vidar Vikinged

    36 vote(s)
    10.8%
  2. Kimberlie Brinked

    26 vote(s)
    7.8%
  3. Bryan Done

    55 vote(s)
    16.6%
  4. Fred Fuched

    201 vote(s)
    60.5%
  5. Leanna Hanged

    14 vote(s)
    4.2%
  1. And greed.
     
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  2. I honestly don't think they have to. I think simply giving advance access to them is almost an open bribe, because they're obviously giving you this because they expect you to give them publicity, and it's also fairly obvious if you just shit on everything they give you, they're not going to keep doing that.

    Why make it an explicitly corrupt transaction when everyone participating, and everyone watching these streams, already knows what's up? You know the guy got advance access, but seriously, if you watch the stream and the game sucks, you can tell that even if the guy doing it is shilling up a storm.

    There just isn't as much incentive for blatant corruption as with games "journalists," who write articles and you don't get to see them streaming, generally. Even there, I think the general bribery is more in terms of schwag and invitations to events and shit like that, and at worst, shit like Zoe Quinn draining your nuts into her stomach.
     
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    AnOminous

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  3. Let's go on a fun little trip to an alternate reality. A reality where Phil stood his ground, took even more flack, and ended up becoming a beacon of hope against shilling for video game streamers. And then, at the end of his life suddenly everything fades into Phil floating above the earth surrounded by all his detractors, even people like Tevin, PandaLee, JohnRambo, and even you and I, and we all begin clapping and saying "Congratulations!" to Phil.



    Nah, just kidding, that would require Phil to have a spine and not be a corrupt piece of shit himself.
     
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  4. I can grasp this general idea, and I usually don't watch streams terribly often. However, when I do, it's generally because there's a specific game I like and play it a lot, and I've hit some kind of skill plateau, but want to get better. Then, I'll watch someone who's actually really good at it, and who when they're streaming, actually explains their reasoning for what they're doing, points out their own mistakes and how they could have done something better, and in general, is actually helpful and useful.

    My main example of this is a guy called darktwinge, a Twitch streamer who did FTL: Faster Than Light and is one of the best players of the game out there. It is notoriously difficult, with an "Easy" mode that would be called "Nightmare" in most other games, and basically a roguelike-like, in that the content is procedurally generated and death is permanent (and usually very swift when you are new to the game).

    There's a similar guy named lethalfrag who also plays this game, but instead of twinge's incredibly methodical, precise play, he does incredibly difficult challenge runs in a wild, aggressive style. He also has a degree in culinary arts and does cooking streams sometimes where he cooks top tier meals and shares recipes. He's basically the anti-DSP and the anti-Jack Scalfani at the same time.

    Good streamers, though, have some things in common. They're invariably polite with their audience, they personally acknowledge any tips or comments and answer questions from the peanut gallery, and they do not gratuitously ban people unless they're being absolute shitheads. Whether they're doing it for a living or just as a side thing because they like the community, they act like professionals. They don't act like infantile morons.

    Really, if DSP had just started streaming today with the way he acts, he'd never have gotten anywhere. His sole claim to fame was getting in early and getting "famous" early and now he is only known for being an asshole and for having previously been one of the early people doing this shit. Even then he sucked.

    tl;dr there are reasons, even if they're kind of autistic reasons, to watch streamers, but there are really no not-utterly-dumb reasons to watch DSP unironically. The obvious reason to watch streamers, i.e. to get better at something, simply doesn't apply. All you learn from DSP is how to bitch and complain when you play like an idiot and lose. The only real reason to watch him is to watch an idiot fail at something and laugh at him, or troll him and get banned.
     
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  5. New poll idea: How long will DSP's twitter silence last before he starts ranting about stuff again?
     
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  6. Y'all think there's something in that rant other than him begging for you to give him 60 bucks instead of playing the game yourself....

    This has been his career. He got the tiny amount of fame he has from postimg day one releases in the days where most let's plays were older games. He was shit then too, but picking were slim, and publishers weren't as happy as they are now with the medium.

    Now the let's play has become accepted by publishers and viewers, so he's not special. In fact he's so unimportant publishers (other than that bad orc game) aren't giving him shit, even when they toss out prerelease codes like candy.

    So you get what we had yesterday. An increasingly irrelevant man grasping at any excuse for his failings, instead of fixing them.
     
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  7. DSP working the shills into a shoot, brother.


    He may be a autistic fat fuck, But so are the losers replying to him.

    May we all bask in the autism that this loser brings.
    DOOOOOD.
     
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  8. I mean all football players can fuck off as far as I'm concerned, the idea of unironically watching someone else play a football game is something I can't wrap my head around.

    That kind of thing only works when there is accountability. Administrative law judges work for the agency that hires them, but they're generally kept in check by the statistics gathered during the applicable appeals process (i.e. if an ALJ's decisions constantly get reversed by district judges that do not work for the agency, that ALJ is not doing their job right.) and as a result behave themselves. The medical examiners who take a look at applicants for disability work for the agency that hires them, and they're not kept in check at all because there's essentially no oversight (medical examiners are rewarded with stable jobs and regular pay increases for recommending individuals are not disabled even if they seem to be disabled- for SSI applicants there is limited backpay the longer it takes for someone to get benefits the more money the SSA saves.)
     
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  9. I think its half and half.

    Half the reason is that he's a relatively tiny, insignificant streamer.
    The other half is that he furiously backpedals whenever it actually gets noticed.

    I think if he hadn't deleted/apologized in this instance he probably would've eaten another suspension.
     
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  10. He's not exactly small now. He's insulted every single twitch streamer possible. If Twitch don't at least suspend him, I'll be very shocked.
     
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  11. John Wolfe has talked about advance access a lot, he said if you just email companies with your stats, and your stats are adequate, they will usually give you access. If you have a modicum of professionalism it's pretty fucking easy to figure out. No one has to pay anyone, it's mutually beneficial.
     
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  12. The thread on his forum have turned into a fight between people who think he havent done enough to apologize and ThatDogGuy and Amityville trying to damage control stuff for Phil!

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    Phil is so going to delet it when he gets back if not before!
     
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  13. why can't people on TKoH forums let amityville jack his dick to phil in PEACE??? REEEEEEE

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    EDIT: damn you @Dragoonism
     
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  14. Got surprised no one has posted anything from his forum before me, every time something like this happens it turns into a fight between people who wanna help Phil and 2-3 hardcore fans who rejects everything for Phil and alienates even more potential forum users!

    His forum is really the Kingdom of Hate!
     
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  15. Nah detractors were asking the former Twitch staff who had been dunking on Phil if that is possibility. They all said no because his tweet doesn't constitute as targeted harassment or violence. So you know usual antics for the DSP forum to get hope that the sky is falling for Phil when it's not. It still however affects any professional relationships he could of had (if he had tried, but let's be real he wouldn't) but a lot of people aren't gonna touch him with a 10 foot pole now.

    Also Phil has a crippling ego and desperately wants asspats. The fact that multiple professionals from multiple aspects of his livelihood (video games, reviewing, streaming) took a giant shit on him will most likely haunt him and feed into his insecurities.
     
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  16. yeah I went to take a peak and was shocked there's even a thread about it. I saw people talking about it in the "Random Thoughts" thread yesterday and was sure a mod was going to tell them to shut up before it got worse.

    MODS ASLEEP
    POST PHIL'S LATEST FUCK UP
     
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  17. yeah but he didn't incite the wrath of a company or a bigger streamer, most just rolled their eyes and laughed at him
    the people who were really angry were the people smaller than him

    and phil pussied out in the end so twitch is more than happy to forgive him since his cost isn't bigger than his earnings... YET

    but that's WOOOOOOOOORKKK!!!
     
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  18. Phils mods are more accepting than what he is, most of them dont mind open discussions as long as it stays on the subject and/or goes out of hand, but Phil will most likely close it as fast as he can.

     
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    #518 Dragoonism, May 16, 2018
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  19. Yeah his forum is pretty much dead, especially the Patrons sub forum. Literally nothing is going on over there, except people occasionally nominating Patron’s Choice playthroughs. Then there’s also the Auspicious Patrons subforum, where nobody has posted in months. Almost a month ago Phil created a topic where patrons can ask questions for the next Ask the King, and so far it has only 1 view (probably Phil’s own).
     
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