Orbiter 8-21-19: [Suspected] Ryan Gordon, Yaniv's "agent," pays a visit to the Farms - The inside story of a gay op trolling plan between Blaire White and Ryan Gordon.

[yesthatanna]

Hello, Anna, I am impressed by how you "grey rock'd" that gaslighting jackass. Repeating yourself as he tried to spin his verbal tirade, well done.

I was not surprised by Ryan saying that he is a survivor of CSA. Victim larping is big business for grifters these days. They exploit your good heart and attempt to hijack (or if unsuccessful, besmirch) your moral compass by plying "believe victims" then abusing you.

Now I am very curious about the timeline of him saying that to you, and Yaniv posting on August 20th that he, too, is a survivor of sexual abuse. Methinks this was yet another copycat game by Yaniv, since he doesn't have original troll ops of his own. I think there's a good chance Lyin' Ryan here told Yaniv he was going to gain your confidence by saying he was abused.

Be well, and thanks for your work.

Ps-Trigger is a dead horse, and Ryan needs to stop flogging it.

Thank you.

I can’t speak to whether or not Gordon’s claim is true, and I won’t speculate. What I will say 100% is that was the line that has me trusting him fully when we initially spoke around noon EST that same day. His story about being compelled into this case because of this story’s parallels to his own experiences and Yaniv’s parallel to his own abuser (he only mentioned one in the beginning...) made me sympathize, and did make me easier to emotionally manipulate, yes. Not an excuse for my fuckups here. But it definitely explains my oversights.

It is sort of interesting you mention Yaniv’s quick work of the CSA claim! Interesting because someone had previously told me that Yaniv never claimed to be epileptic until it was revealed that one of the women he is engaged in litigation with at the BCHRT is epileptic.

Just yesterday I was thinking it was curious how Yaniv declared he had a brain tumour around the same time prominent gender critical feminist Magdalen Berns began posting more publicly about her experiences fighting brain tumours...

 

[Papa Adolfo's Take'n'Bake]

This thread went from trashfire to content to premium content. What a fucking ride. @yesthatanna and @JRumpel3 , semper fidelis, this shit is gold.

5. 1:19 -- "Because you've picked sides!" when I said I would care more about Yaniv's conduct than the girl he was speaking to.

Fucking lol, this is absurdly rich as your cooperation with him was based on picking the same side. I could really only make it to 3 minutes before i got sick of listening to him, but I think the picture is becoming clear that @RXG is in all truth, just a dramacow without the faculties to figure out a coherent objective and stick to it. Just watch the progression of his posting here from stanning Yaniv to rambling to eventually retreating once @JRumpel3 showed up with real content. Oh dear, I might need to stop putting words in his mouth, and wait for him to show up and clear this up like the big professional he really is.

 

[WGkitty]

It is sort of interesting you mention Yaniv’s quick work of the CSA claim! Interesting because someone had previously told me that Yaniv never claimed to be epileptic until it was revealed that one of the women he is engaged in litigation with at the BCHRT is epileptic.

Relevant tweet from goinglikeelsie on this:

https://kiwifarms.net/attachments/20190709_184515-jpg.833884/

 

[Mariposa Electrique]

Your wish is my command.

Cut for length and personal info. I had no recollection that this call was over 27 minutes.

This was likely the most intense episode of gaslighting I have ever experienced. It was abusive as hell. Listen to how assured he is when he says "you are putting words in my mouth," and calling me "deluded" and a "disgusting human being." The suggestions that I was getting in the way of progress of the victims and ruining the chance to get Yaniv put in prison are when I lost my shit.

You all heard the original audio. Did I twist his words?

Some notes for context/points of interest:

1. I started this audio when I was asking him to re-initiate a FaceTime and pull up the conversation between Jane Doe and Yaniv again, so I could walk him through what happened like a little exceptional baby.
2. He didn't understand this, he thought (and was kind of freaking out) I was telling him to pull up logs?
3. At 4:28 or so, he mentions the "mini skirt-rape" example, I had texted basically that same thing to him just before he called me. So him parroting it back to me as if it were his original thought was pretty funny.
4. 1:04 -- This was one of the things he called out that came before the bikini line. I also have the audio for this.
5. 1:19 -- "Because you've picked sides!" when I said I would care more about Yaniv's conduct than the girl he was speaking to.
6. 1:30 -- Admission that Yaniv claimed to have committed illegal acts. Again, goes against what he claimed to KF.
7. 8:35-9:40 -- VERRRRRRRRRRYYYYYYYYY IMPORTANT. Ryan simultaneously claiming 1) That he lied to Yaniv because it's "standard journalistic practice," 2) that he never lied to Yaniv, 3) accusing me of being on Yaniv's side for telling him that I've never lied to anyone.

Just absolute insanity.

Listening to this again was a mindfuck.

I need a goddamn coffee.

Wow, what a piece of shit. Canada is such a tolerant and beautiful place, yet here's a gay man gaslighting a victim of sexual abuse. This world is insane.

 

[Short Stack]

Wow, what a piece of shit. Canada is such a tolerant and beautiful place, yet here's a gay man gaslighting a victim of sexual abuse. This world is insane.

I was in BC after I got out of the Army in '73...(heading to Alaska)...I remember it as being a bit laid back, but nowhere near the shit I hear today...Then again...the same could be said for California from the 70's thru today.

 

[AbraCadaver]

Gordon sips his coffee slowly and smirks. “Time to get back on the ole KW and toy with the simpletons,” he thinks to himself. “Run circles around them with my logic and reason.”

One tab open to thesaurus.com, he strolls back into this thread, skims over the most recent unread pages, turns white and bolts right back out.

Where you fuckin at, Gordon? @RXG You need to teach us more big words we all know! Wave your verb dick around a bit! Did you get lost on your way back to the thread? Or did you just assume Anna would never come here because ladies won’t enter this wretched hive of scum and villainy?

 

[2nd_time_user]

Anyone notice that @Jonathan "Jessica" Yaniv has been quiet on his Twitter for 72 hours?

When was the last time that happened?

I myself am not ruling out the possibility that JY and Mama Yaniv read this thread, read how it blew up, and told @RXG to "ride me bitch forever or you'll get sued."

Nor am I ruling out the possibility that @RXG fell for it.

 

[Poopstain]

For what this might be worth, I sandblasted JY with some pretty aggressive fuck yous and can't wait till you dies all over his twitter and yet didn't get banned until I finally criticized AOC (and I'm talking last 48 hours).

Has the worm turned?

 

[WGkitty]

Anyone notice that @Jonathan "Jessica" Yaniv has been quiet on his Twitter for 72 hours?

When was the last time that happened?

I myself am not ruling out the possibility that JY and Mama Yaniv read this thread, read how it blew up, and told @RXG to "ride me bitch forever or you'll get sued."

Nor am I ruling out the possibility that @RXG fell for it.

He was out of town in Victoria but I've also seen his lights on at night including his deck light that he turns on every night. I am wondering if maybe his lights are on a timer??

 

[SourDiesel]

Welp. Ryan is clearly a dangerous, abusive psychopath and the only way to deal with that is to go no contact. I feel very badly for anyone that inadvertently winds up in a relationship with him as they are surely doomed. He is an aggressive, delusional narcissist and very well may wind up catching a domestic one of these days.

 

[Poopstain]

For what this might be worth, I sandblasted JY with some pretty aggressive fuck yous and can't wait till you dies all over his twitter and yet didn't get banned until I finally criticized AOC (and I'm talking last 48 hours).

Has the worm turned?

To elaborate a bit--I've been sandblasting JY for over 48 hours yet was only banned an hour or so ago--within five minutes after I had criticized AOC.

Yes I'm autistic (not really too concerned about that just trying to add a data point where I can).

 

[What This Old Thing!?]

Thank you.

I can’t speak to whether or not Gordon’s claim is true, and I won’t speculate. What I will say 100% is that was the line that has me trusting him fully when we initially spoke around noon EST that same day. His story about being compelled into this case because of this story’s parallels to his own experiences and Yaniv’s parallel to his own abuser (he only mentioned one in the beginning...) made me sympathize, and did make me easier to emotionally manipulate, yes. Not an excuse for my fuckups here. But it definitely explains my oversights.

It is sort of interesting you mention Yaniv’s quick work of the CSA claim! Interesting because someone had previously told me that Yaniv never claimed to be epileptic until it was revealed that one of the women he is engaged in litigation with at the BCHRT is epileptic.

Just yesterday I was thinking it was curious how Yaniv declared he had a brain tumour around the same time prominent gender critical feminist Magdalen Berns began posting more publicly about her experiences fighting brain tumours...

Yeah, it's been talked about on here on the various threads how he appropriates other people's personal difficulties as his own in order to grift moar....

He seems to flock with fowl of similarly foul feather, so I will speculate where you cannot.

Ryan, imo, used your own virtue against you by lying about CSA. This is not your fault, people who do that, do it because it works.
It is a bitter awakening for every one of us abused by this type of con. But you are insightful, and now this experience can be a powerful tool of wisdom. I certainly don't fault you for what that's worth.

Pedohunter larpers and CSA larpers are rife these days. That Henry Case person always tagged one, too, "Craig Sawyer".

Here's a good video about how exasperating psychos are https://kiwifarms.net/threads/yaniv-vs-kf-armchair-psychiatrists.59984/post-5231709

As for Ryan's lengthening absence, @AbraCadaver, perhaps he is feeling a little too "equitably diffident". Or perhaps his thesaurus turned into a dinosaurus.

 

[Short Stack]

Anyone notice that @Jonathan "Jessica" Yaniv has been quiet on his Twitter for 72 hours?

When was the last time that happened?

I myself am not ruling out the possibility that JY and Mama Yaniv read this thread, read how it blew up, and told @RXG to "ride me bitch forever or you'll get sued."

Nor am I ruling out the possibility that @RXG fell for it.

He may be having bad menstrual cramps or something....Did U ever think of that? No...U just think about Urself

We should pray for his health....I want the laffs to continue (thinking about myself)

 

[wabbits]

Thank you.

I can’t speak to whether or not Gordon’s claim is true, and I won’t speculate. What I will say 100% is that was the line that has me trusting him fully when we initially spoke around noon EST that same day. His story about being compelled into this case because of this story’s parallels to his own experiences and Yaniv’s parallel to his own abuser (he only mentioned one in the beginning...) made me sympathize, and did make me easier to emotionally manipulate, yes. Not an excuse for my fuckups here. But it definitely explains my oversights.

It is sort of interesting you mention Yaniv’s quick work of the CSA claim! Interesting because someone had previously told me that Yaniv never claimed to be epileptic until it was revealed that one of the women he is engaged in litigation with at the BCHRT is epileptic.

Just yesterday I was thinking it was curious how Yaniv declared he had a brain tumour around the same time prominent gender critical feminist Magdalen Berns began posting more publicly about her experiences fighting brain tumours...

There's at least one prequel for the epilepsy drama. In April this year, Yaniv heard Christine Jamieson speak on epilepsy awareness. He was in the throes of his beauty pageant activism and apparently thrilled to be in the presence of a Miss Canada - a Miss Canada from BC who had epilepsy. @sixthwave capped this:


Part of Jamieson's story is that after receiving her diagnosis, she walked to a cliff in the Vancouver area and considered plunging over the edge. Early in May, the RCMP hauled Yaniv off a bridge and took him to a hospital for psych eval. What that was about, we still don't know, but:



Other caps from that day. After that he moved on to other maladies, especially cancer, and when he returned to the subject of seizures late in June, he did not attribute them to epilepsy. That changed on July 9 after he heard that one of his targets in the HRT proceedings had epilepsy.

Genital surgery is another interesting bit of Yanivery. He said nothing about it until he learned that one of the pageants he wanted to enter required it of trans woman contestants. He began tweeting about it as though he'd already had the surgery, but tweeted ignorantly about the experience. It took the JCCF lawyer questioning him at the HRT for Yaniv to admit he hadn't had SRS - oh, but it was scheduled! It is? When's it scheduled for? Uuuuh, oh, it's not yet scheduled.

There's a partial medical timeline here with more if it's of interest.

 

[Short Stack]

There's at least one prequel for the epilepsy drama. In April this year, Yaniv heard Christine Jamieson speak on epilepsy awareness. He was in the throes of his beauty pageant activism and apparently thrilled to be in the presence of a Miss Canada - a Miss Canada from BC who had epilepsy. @sixthwave capped this:
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Part of Jamieson's story is that after receiving her diagnosis, she walked to a cliff in the Vancouver area and considered plunging over the edge. Early in May, the RCMP hauled Yaniv off a bridge and took him to a hospital for psych eval. What that was about, we still don't know, but:

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Other caps from that day. After that he moved on to other maladies, especially cancer, and when he returned to the subject of seizures late in June, he did not attribute them to epilepsy. That changed on July 9 after he heard that one of his targets in the HRT proceedings had epilepsy.

Genital surgery is another interesting bit of Yanivery. He said nothing about it until he learned that one of the pageants he wanted to enter required it of trans woman contestants. He began tweeting about it as though he'd already had the surgery, but tweeted ignorantly about the experience. It took the JCCF lawyer questioning him at the HRT for Yaniv to admit he hadn't had SRS - oh, but it was scheduled! It is? When's it scheduled for? Uuuuh, oh, it's not yet scheduled.

There's a partial medical timeline here with more if it's of interest.

"I've always asked for a brain MRI"
"I've always denied there was an issue"
????????????????????????????????????????

 

[Teazel]

Hi @yesthatanna, thanks for joining us. Your information and willingness to interact has been super helpful and it honestly clears up a LOT. It's also nice to see a sweet reunion between you and @JRumpel3... here of all places.

I have one question about this text message that you posted between you and Ryan. Is it normal for the timestamp to be 16/8/2562 BE 14:22? Was Gordon messaging you from the future?

 

[Sevenatenine]

Hi @yesthatanna, thanks for joining us. Your information and willingness to interact has been super helpful and it honestly clears up a LOT. It's also nice to see a sweet reunion between you and @JRumpel3... here of all places.

I have one question about this text message that you posted between you and Ryan. Is it normal for the timestamp to be 16/8/2562 BE 14:22? Was Gordon messaging you from the future?
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If these are from that RXG, combined with that phone call...he has a past. Dead hookers under his floorboards past.

This is prime level sociopath. Take it from someone who has the scars, GET THE FUCK AWAY. DO NOT ENGAGE. HE HAS NOTHING YOU WANT, AND CLARICE FUCKING STARLING WOULDN'T GET AWAY WITHOUT DAMAGE.

 

[Adult Female Athlete]

Is it normal for the timestamp to be 16/8/2562 BE 14:22? Was Gordon messaging you from the future?

The BE stands for "Buddhist Era" I am assuming. It's the Buddhist Calendar. Neat!

 

[Teazel]

It is sort of interesting you mention Yaniv’s quick work of the CSA claim! Interesting because someone had previously told me that Yaniv never claimed to be epileptic until it was revealed that one of the women he is engaged in litigation with at the BCHRT is epileptic.

If you want to wade through it, there is actually some analysis shit-posting armchair psychology on this topic here:

https://kiwifarms.net/threads/8-20-19-jy-claims-he-was-sexually-assaulted-and-nobody-believes-him.59963

 

[What This Old Thing!?]

I found this surprisingly pertinent article on wikipedia. I can take it to the armchair psychiatry thread if preferred, but I think it describes Ryan's behavior towards @yesthatanna

Spoiler: Victim-Playing for Abuse

Victim playing by abusers is either:[1][2]

• Dehumanization, diverting attention away from acts of abuse by claiming that the abuse was justified based on another person's bad behavior (typically the victim)
• Grooming for abusive power and control by soliciting sympathy from others in order to gain their assistance in supporting or enabling the abuse of a victim (known as proxy abuse).

It is common for abusers to engage in victim playing. This serves two purposes:

• Justification, to themselves, in transactional analysis known as existential validation, as a way of dealing with the cognitive dissonance that results from inconsistencies between the way they treat others and what they believe about themselves
• Justification to others as a strategy of evading or deflecting harsh judgment or condemnation they may fear from others.
• https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Victim_playing