Orbiter 8-21-19: [Suspected] Ryan Gordon, Yaniv's "agent," pays a visit to the Farms - The inside story of a gay op trolling plan between Blaire White and Ryan Gordon.

Yellow Yam Scam

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His documentary: Dead
His legal threats: Anemic
His reputation: In tatters, even for a failed gay porn producer.

I wonder if Ryan's """legal""" attacks and school yard DARVO bullshit worked on the methed up gay porn wannabes he used to deal with so he thinks it'll work on people who aren't speaking to him in between hits of poppers?
 

KeepHopeAlive

I'M not in lockdown YOU'RE in Lockdown
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His documentary: Dead
His legal threats: Anemic
His reputation: In tatters, even for a failed gay porn producer.

I wonder if Ryan's """legal""" attacks and school yard DARVO bullshit worked on the methed up gay porn wannabes he used to deal with so he thinks it'll work on people who aren't speaking to him in between hits of poppers?


Yeah, but that vocabulary........
 

Whittet07

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Just so I got this right. JY a guy that was a "client" of Ryan Gordon whom I stated may still have some sort of partnership with Ryan Gordon was looking at a thread about me a guy who blasted screenshots and audio clips of Ryan Gordon who Ryan is probably fuming with.

Yeah starting to think that theory I had on them still having some sort of partnership even now is very likely.

Also JY if you see this as you are likely still butt buddies with Ryan how about you come at me you fat fuck? We can have a lolcalf vs lolcow battle of the century. Autistic screeching and insults galore. Except in this battle you'll fake a seizure and I'll still curb stomp you because I don't fight fair lmao.
I HaD NoThINg tO Do WiTh tHE dOX.

Liar.
 

RavenCrow

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Your wish is my command.

Cut for length and personal info. I had no recollection that this call was over 27 minutes.

This was likely the most intense episode of gaslighting I have ever experienced. It was abusive as hell. Listen to how assured he is when he says "you are putting words in my mouth," and calling me "deluded" and a "disgusting human being." The suggestions that I was getting in the way of progress of the victims and ruining the chance to get Yaniv put in prison are when I lost my shit.

You all heard the original audio. Did I twist his words?

Some notes for context/points of interest:

1. I started this audio when I was asking him to re-initiate a FaceTime and pull up the conversation between Jane Doe and Yaniv again, so I could walk him through what happened like a little exceptional baby.
2. He didn't understand this, he thought (and was kind of freaking out) I was telling him to pull up logs?
3. At 4:28 or so, he mentions the "mini skirt-rape" example, I had texted basically that same thing to him just before he called me. So him parroting it back to me as if it were his original thought was pretty funny.
4. 1:04 -- This was one of the things he called out that came before the bikini line. I also have the audio for this.
5. 1:19 -- "Because you've picked sides!" when I said I would care more about Yaniv's conduct than the girl he was speaking to.
6. 1:30 -- Admission that Yaniv claimed to have committed illegal acts. Again, goes against what he claimed to KF.
7. 8:35-9:40 -- VERRRRRRRRRRYYYYYYYYY IMPORTANT. Ryan simultaneously claiming 1) That he lied to Yaniv because it's "standard journalistic practice," 2) that he never lied to Yaniv, 3) accusing me of being on Yaniv's side for telling him that I've never lied to anyone.

Just absolute insanity.

Listening to this again was a mindfuck.

I need a goddamn coffee.

What a nut. He has no idea what he's doing. He has no clue what "journalistic practice" is. The only thing he knows about is being an autistic attention whore who fails at gay porn.

He probably wants to lady and the tramp a tampon with yaniv.
 
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Menstrual Champ

I got hacked and all I got was this stupid tampon
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As for Ryan's lengthening absence, @AbraCadaver, perhaps he is feeling a little too "equitably diffident". Or perhaps his thesaurus turned into a dinosaurus.

Ryan is at Kinko's getting his thesaurus laminated because he kept getting the pages stuck together.

He probably wants to lady and the tramp a tampon with yaniv.

JY RG tampon dinner.png
 

yesthatanna

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Hi @yesthatanna, thanks for joining us. Your information and willingness to interact has been super helpful and it honestly clears up a LOT. It's also nice to see a sweet reunion between you and @JRumpel3... here of all places.

I have one question about this text message that you posted between you and Ryan. Is it normal for the timestamp to be 16/8/2562 BE 14:22? Was Gordon messaging you from the future?
View attachment 911832

Ah! @Adult Female Athlete is right!

I just moved back from Thailand in May, where I was for a year finishing my degree. The Buddhist calendar is used there, which is 543 years ahead.

I had my logic board replaced while there, and I’ve not been able to change many of the BE dates on my computer back since! I don’t usually notice, though.

Sorry xD
 

wabbits

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Ah! @Adult Female Athlete is right!

I just moved back from Thailand in May, where I was for a year finishing my degree. The Buddhist calendar is used there, which is 543 years ahead.

I had my logic board replaced while there, and I’ve not been able to change many of the BE dates on my computer back since! I don’t usually notice, though.

Sorry xD

A Buddhist logic board provides an eightfold path to peripherals.
 

pr3nt177

"I am suicidal if you don't believe me ask my mum"
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Your wish is my command.

Cut for length and personal info. I had no recollection that this call was over 27 minutes.

This was likely the most intense episode of gaslighting I have ever experienced. It was abusive as hell. Listen to how assured he is when he says "you are putting words in my mouth," and calling me "deluded" and a "disgusting human being." The suggestions that I was getting in the way of progress of the victims and ruining the chance to get Yaniv put in prison are when I lost my shit.

You all heard the original audio. Did I twist his words?

Some notes for context/points of interest:

1. I started this audio when I was asking him to re-initiate a FaceTime and pull up the conversation between Jane Doe and Yaniv again, so I could walk him through what happened like a little exceptional baby.
2. He didn't understand this, he thought (and was kind of freaking out) I was telling him to pull up logs?
3. At 4:28 or so, he mentions the "mini skirt-rape" example, I had texted basically that same thing to him just before he called me. So him parroting it back to me as if it were his original thought was pretty funny.
4. 1:04 -- This was one of the things he called out that came before the bikini line. I also have the audio for this.
5. 1:19 -- "Because you've picked sides!" when I said I would care more about Yaniv's conduct than the girl he was speaking to.
6. 1:30 -- Admission that Yaniv claimed to have committed illegal acts. Again, goes against what he claimed to KF.
7. 8:35-9:40 -- VERRRRRRRRRRYYYYYYYYY IMPORTANT. Ryan simultaneously claiming 1) That he lied to Yaniv because it's "standard journalistic practice," 2) that he never lied to Yaniv, 3) accusing me of being on Yaniv's side for telling him that I've never lied to anyone.

Just absolute insanity.

Listening to this again was a mindfuck.

I need a goddamn coffee.
Thank you, appreciated.

The irony of him saying you have "anger management issues, are deluded, unable to have rational conversations, you get easily triggered" And you're the reason he's "receiving a whiplash of your insecurities. Stop it." Unbelievable.

How can anyone discuss anything with someone like that. You certainly have more patience than I have.
 

SourDiesel

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Thank you, appreciated.

The irony of him saying you have "anger management issues, are deluded, unable to have rational conversations, you get easily triggered" And you're the reason he's "receiving a whiplash of your insecurities. Stop it." Unbelievable.

How can anyone discuss anything with someone like that. You certainly have more patience than I have.
Remember too that this is a literal nobody who has done literally nothing but fail at everything he's ever tried to accomplish. A guy who fucking cold called Anna acting like he thinks he's got fucking Deep Throat levels of intel acting like a sped. Dude has major delusions of grandeur and this is how he reacts when people don't sufficiently kiss his Very Important Ass.

This is the type of conversation that makes you instantly block and ignore for the rest of your life. Seriously, no contact is the only way to deal with people like this. He's a textbook abuser. He tried that shit on us here too.

What he needs is professional help but he's never going to get it because narcissists never think they need help. It's always going to be everyone else who's wrong. So - no contact. It's all you can do.
 
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yesthatanna

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Thanks @pr3nt177.

And you’re right, @SourDiesel. The fact he hasn’t come back here is telling, but it makes me wonder what he’s cooking up on the the backend. Gordon seemed so unstable in our last interactions and since (here on the Farms demonstrating how little capacity for truth and rationality he has)... people like that don’t go away so silently, in my experience. They flail endlessly, no understanding of the fact clear as day to every other person that it is time to give in.
 

Deadpool

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Thanks @pr3nt177.

And you’re right, @SourDiesel. The fact he hasn’t come back here is telling, but it makes me wonder what he’s cooking up on the the backend. Gordon seemed so unstable in our last interactions and since (here on the Farms demonstrating how little capacity for truth and rationality he has)... people like that don’t go away so silently, in my experience. They flail endlessly, no understanding of the fact clear as day to every other person that it is time to give in.
There are quite a few cows that disappear after a blow to their ego. They have to stew in it until they can twist it into some kind of victory. Even if it turns out being "I sure trolled those kiwi's!!! Or the opportunity to show how bad we are by attacking a gay documentarian. When infact he's just nursing a hurt pride.
 

SourDiesel

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There are quite a few cows that disappear after a blow to their ego. They have to stew in it until they can twist it into some kind of victory. Even if it turns out being "I sure trolled those kiwi's!!! Or the opportunity to show how bad we are by attacking a gay documentarian. When infact he's just nursing a hurt pride.
"Joke's on you, Kiwis. I was only pretending to be r.etarded!" is a classic and I hope he brings it back.
 

2nd_time_user

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From looking at https://www.canliiconnects.org/en/commentaries/66056

1) the child luring statute applies only to 15 and under;
2) prosecutors have to prove that the accused actually believed they were under 16.

Item 2 refers to what @RXG kept talking about. It refers to a sting that took place between a perv and a cop who said they were 14 as part of a sting. That perv appealed to the Supreme Court, saying that he was on a site (Craiglist Casual Encounters) that had an 18+ rule, so he thought he was cosplaying with an actual adult, which turns out to have been true. I don't see anything here, however, that suggests that luring an actual person under 16 isn't actionable even if the kid is on a TOS 18+ site, which don't apply here. FB allows users 13 and up.

But the canlii article also says and cites the age of consent when it comes to Canadian child luring laws at 16. Not 18. So @RXG might have been legally right here when it comes to Canada, especially if Doe lived there too and no other country's rules apply. At 16 in 2009, Jane Doe was of age where the child luring laws in Canada would not apply to her according to the above. By the time Jon invited her to CES, she was 19 or 20 according to @yesthatanna.

@JRumpel3 is a different story. She was on multiple platforms that allow kids or were even youth-oriented, divulging her age and images of her growing up as far back as 2012. She lives stateside where the age of consent is 16, but she's shown timestamped screens showing that a lot of the perv behavior occurred in fact before her 16th birthday. And in any case, it still is illegal for anyone across a state or international border to entice her to come visit them with a sexual purpose until 18.
 

SourDiesel

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From looking at https://www.canliiconnects.org/en/commentaries/66056

1) the child luring statute applies only to 15 and under;
2) prosecutors have to prove that the accused actually believed they were under 16.

Item 2 refers to what @RXG kept talking about. It refers to a sting that took place between a perv and a cop who said they were 14 as part of a sting. That perv appealed to the Supreme Court, saying that he was on a site (Craiglist Casual Encounters) that had an 18+ rule, so he thought he was cosplaying with an actual adult, which turns out to have been true. I don't see anything here, however, that suggests that luring an actual person under 16 isn't actionable even if the kid is on a TOS 18+ site, which don't apply here. FB allows users 13 and up.

But the canlii article also says and cites the age of consent when it comes to Canadian child luring laws at 16. Not 18. So @RXG might have been legally right here when it comes to Canada, especially if Doe lived there too and no other country's rules apply. At 16 in 2009, Jane Doe was of age where the child luring laws in Canada would not apply to her according to the above. By the time Jon invited her to CES, she was 19 or 20 according to @yesthatanna.

@JRumpel3 is a different story. She was on multiple platforms that allow kids or were even youth-oriented, divulging her age and images of her growing up as far back as 2012. She lives stateside where the age of consent is 16, but she's shown timestamped screens showing that a lot of the perv behavior occurred in fact before her 16th birthday. And in any case, it still is illegal for anyone across a state or international border to entice her to come visit them with a sexual purpose until 18.
There are like a million mitigating factors here though and tbh, Ryan is not right, Ryan merely has a theory and he's applying the outcome of one specific case to his theory and acting like that means shit. At the end of the day, it's not anyone's responsibility to decide what is and isn't actionable according to the Supreme Court of Canada except the cops and the crown attorney. No one in thier right mind goes searching for obscure Supreme Court rulings before they report a pedophile. Just report the fucking faggot and let the professionals sort out the charges and legal arguments.

Dude is not an investigator, not a cop, not a prosecutor or an attorney. He's literally just a bum with delusions of grandeur. This issue is just some water muddying irrelevance.
 

2nd_time_user

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Plus, most of the time when she was replying to him, he would just continue talking. Part of it going in circles was probably because he didn't hear what she said!

IDK why the conversation just didn't go like this:

ANNA: "She said she was 16 in 2009!"
RXG: "Here's a screen saying she was 19 in 2011, but she still could have been 16 then. he's not guilty under child luring laws, which expire on one's 16th birthday."
ANNA: "That's still was morally reprehensible though."
RXG: "Perhaps but as legal as shooting barely legal in porn one day after they turn 18. It's still legal."

There are like a million mitigating factors here though and tbh, Ryan is not right, Ryan merely has a theory and he's applying the outcome of one specific case to his theory and acting like that means shit. At the end of the day, it's not anyone's responsibility to decide what is and isn't actionable according to the Supreme Court of Canada except the cops and the crown attorney. No one in thier right mind goes searching for obscure Supreme Court rulings before they report a pedophile. Just report the fucking faggot and let the professionals sort out the charges and legal arguments.

Dude is not an investigator, not a cop, not a prosecutor or an attorney. He's literally just a bum with delusions of grandeur. This issue is just the water muddying irrelevance.

@RXG could have just pointed out that they both agree that even if Jane was 19 in 2011, she have been 16 in 2009, and that the child luring laws expire at 16. I mean, tbf, I think this law is bullshit and that reaching out to anyone sexually under 18 when you're even two years over should be a crime, but it doesn't appear to be. Any more than it isn't a crime to shoot porn three days after the performers' 18th birthday and then put their DOB and DOP (date of production) at the beginning of a barely legal tape.

It doesn't mean that Anna was lying. She never represented that in fact Jane was younger than 16 in 2009. I don't know where he got that from.

Where I do fault him, severely, is 1) getting into JY's socials to begin with and 2) going on a crusade after that. As @WGkitty and others have said, that's way above what you'd ask a documentarian to do. His IP argument holds no water here--it's extremely easy for anyone to use TOR, and all he did was inject doubt into who was deleting/adding to the account (i.e. the JY pool/tampon comment that went away). @RXG was there basically for reputation management and shitted that up royally by sharing Facetimes with probably the most antagonistic JY reporter out there, then went on his own crusade after saying he had no financial incentive from JY/MY.
 
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EmpireOfTheClouds

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Your wish is my command.

Cut for length and personal info. I had no recollection that this call was over 27 minutes.

This was likely the most intense episode of gaslighting I have ever experienced. It was abusive as hell. Listen to how assured he is when he says "you are putting words in my mouth," and calling me "deluded" and a "disgusting human being." The suggestions that I was getting in the way of progress of the victims and ruining the chance to get Yaniv put in prison are when I lost my shit.

You all heard the original audio. Did I twist his words?

Some notes for context/points of interest:

1. I started this audio when I was asking him to re-initiate a FaceTime and pull up the conversation between Jane Doe and Yaniv again, so I could walk him through what happened like a little exceptional baby.
2. He didn't understand this, he thought (and was kind of freaking out) I was telling him to pull up logs?
3. At 4:28 or so, he mentions the "mini skirt-rape" example, I had texted basically that same thing to him just before he called me. So him parroting it back to me as if it were his original thought was pretty funny.
4. 1:04 -- This was one of the things he called out that came before the bikini line. I also have the audio for this.
5. 1:19 -- "Because you've picked sides!" when I said I would care more about Yaniv's conduct than the girl he was speaking to.
6. 1:30 -- Admission that Yaniv claimed to have committed illegal acts. Again, goes against what he claimed to KF.
7. 8:35-9:40 -- VERRRRRRRRRRYYYYYYYYY IMPORTANT. Ryan simultaneously claiming 1) That he lied to Yaniv because it's "standard journalistic practice," 2) that he never lied to Yaniv, 3) accusing me of being on Yaniv's side for telling him that I've never lied to anyone.

Just absolute insanity.

Listening to this again was a mindfuck.

I need a goddamn coffee.
Jesus H fucking Christ.

First off thank you @yesthatanna for joining and sharing this with us. You helped re-rail this thread from an autism fest to quality content. And also props to you for admitting a mistake, something @RXG clearly cannot do. Speaking of which...

Holy fuck that call. I can't think of someone more concerned with being right than supporting their own cause in my life. I told him basically to his face he clearly has a personality disorder... If only I had known what a fucking understatement that was. Vile.

Ryan, if you're reading this, how does it feel for everybody to have been right about what narcissistic sociopath you are? You seriously need help.
 
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