Hulk Hogan said:
I'll see you there buddy, the bottom right one got me.raymond said:
Caddchef said:I'll see you there buddy, the bottom right one got me.raymond said:
I got dragged to a Conspiricy Theroy Convention here in CT. It was a bunch of tin foil hats (figuratively) hissing whenever this guy brought up Bush (literally). The big argument was the whole steel melting argument. When we got a chance to privately speak to this guy, I mentioned the building could still collapse with jet fuel softening the steel at that temp and not melting it. He patted me on the head and told me to seek out the truth. I never felt so stupid in my life until I realized who I with.Picklepower said:If this exists please show me, but I would be curious to see a survey of 9/11 conspiracy theory acceptance world wide. From what I've heard these conspiracies have some following in Asia, and well obviously the Middle East. I don't quite remember, but didn't a pretty well known Japanese politician say he thought it was government conspiracy?
Blue Max said:Now, 10+ years afterward, we can say he didn't have any idea what he was doing and was totally over his head, but we didn't know that then.
Pikimon said:My boyfriend unfortunatly believes in them...and just like his religious beliefs Im not allowed to poke fun at them...at least not openly
Picklepower said:If this exists please show me, but I would be curious to see a survey of 9/11 conspiracy theory acceptance world wide. From what I've heard these conspiracies have some following in Asia, and well obviously the Middle East. I don't quite remember, but didn't a pretty well known Japanese politician say he thought it was government conspiracy?
c-no said:Like some the people on this forum have said, I too find these 9/11 conspiracies to be completely stupid and disrespectful to those who died. The only good they brought was seeing it get mocked on South Park. I do wonder why these truthers believe these theories. Perhaps they believe in it because they hate Bush and the U.S. government or perhaps they just want attention and believe themselves to be special people who aren't "sheep" like the rest of the masses.
I think that's it exactly. For a lot of people it's easier to believe that two massive buildings were intentionally demolished than it is for them to wrap their heads around the physics/weights involved or to understand just how fragile those towering monstrosities truly can be, especially given that they may live or work in one.Holdek said:9-11 was unexpected and traumatic. For many it becomes easier to live with if they can find easy "answers" that lie in the sophisticated machinations of a well understood conspiracy than it is to face the fact, and live with the resulting anxiety, that dudes with box cutters and a few flight lessons can kill thousands of people and fuck up the country you call home in one shot. If they know the "real truth" then it at least gives them some feeling of understanding, and thus control, about what is in reality an inherently chaotic and often indifferent world.
I'm sure I'm going to rustle at least a few jimmies by saying this, but 9/11 truthers, and conspiracy theories in general, always struck me as being just another article of faith. I'm not trying to say the two are completely analogous and I don't doubt that there's such a thing as 150% genuine religious belief, but I know plenty of people who accept whatever religion they were raised on (mostly southern Baptism where I live) because they're really desperate to believe in an almighty, all-powerful god that loves them and looks out for them, and they'll take the argument over evidence and interpretation of doctrine and all the other conundrums of religious belief with complete indifference because that oneneed is fulfilled. Like those folks, conspiracy theorists are really desperate to believe in an ultra-secret, global illuminati-orchestrated conspiracy that only they are smart enough to understand. They're so desperate, in fact, that they'll gladly ignore anything that contradicts it.c-no said:I do wonder why these truthers believe these theories. Perhaps they believe in it because they hate Bush and the U.S. government or perhaps they just want attention and believe themselves to be special people who aren't "sheep" like the rest of the masses.
Judge Holden said:To be honest, the recent epidemic of syria conspiracy theories (i.e. "theres NO WAY Assad has done anything wrong, its all the evil imperialistic capitalistic neo liberal west, or them damn dirty je..Israelis somehow doing the gas attacks") among the far left in the UK make me pine for the days of 9/11 conspiracy theories because at least 9/11 conspiracy theorists pretended to have proof