A Boycott Against Bioware Begins - Mostly Because the Company Staff is Openly Racist

[Jaimas]

Serial shit-stirrer Top Hats and Champagne recently begun an officiation of what many familiar with BioWare have already started to do: Boycott the company entirely:

He rightly points out the obvious, which is that the bulk of its staff are all for dumbing down games for the retard audience, are chock full of open racists, and are fine ram-rodding identity politics faggotry into their games. Examples he posts include the words of Jennifer "the problem with games is that you have to play them" Hepler, Manveir "I hate white people" Veir, and, of course, VIRTUAL RAPE GIRL.

I know most people here were already in favor of never buying anything from these shits, but it's nice to hear an interesting and straightforward explanation for why to avoid them.

 

[Broseph Stalin]

Well, see y'all in hell. This video made me realize that living as a bi-curious white male comfortable in my own skin just isn't possible in this day and age. Might as well end it all before I get my white skin flayed from my body while still alive.

Oh wait I'm a skeleton lelkek

 

[H3LLH4MM3R666]

Bioware games have drifted in quality, for reasons not really related to identity politics or SJWs imo.

It's mostly a staff exodus and EA's stricter timetables to blame. Dragon Age 1 was developed over 4 years and Dragon Age 2 was made in 18 months.

Anyway, there's a chart floating around detailing the gender demographics of the audiences of certain franchises, and I remember Bioware games having a lower percentage of female players than Resident Evil, Diablo, World of Warcraft, and Devil May Cry. I gotta find it when I get the chance

 

[Coleman Francis]

Remember when they used to make stuff like Balder's Gate? Now they want to make it so you can skip the actual game so you can get to the story about the dyke aliens faster.

 

[CatParty]

Serial shit-stirrer Top Hats and Champagne recently begun an officiation of what many familiar with BioWare have already started to do: Boycott the company entirely:

He rightly points out the obvious, which is that the bulk of its staff are all for dumbing down games for the exceptional individual audience, are chock full of open racists, and are fine ram-rodding identity politics faggotry into their games. Examples he posts include the words of Jennifer "the problem with games is that you have to play them" Hepler, Manveir "I hate white people" Veir, and, of course, VIRTUAL RAPE GIRL.

I know most people here were already in favor of never buying anything from these shits, but it's nice to hear an interesting and straightforward explanation for why to avoid them.

lol taking this subforum seriously

 

[I-chi]

I just keep running it over in my head: What happened?

And that question only intensifies because I took the opportunity and bought ME1 and ME2 during a weekly Steam sale. Hell if I want to get 3 to wrap it all up!

And as I find myself investing myself once again in this big universe of humankind, bug people, dinosaur people, techno-gypsy people, purple women, frog people, and techno-religious robopeople all in this great big struggle to pull together and fight a terrible, mechanized menace from beyond the stars; I can only ask myself what exactly HAPPENED to my well written characters, my stories, my romances, conflicts; each of them in some way resolving themselves in a subtle, Aesop fashion about how any group of people, no matter how different in thoughts, race, beliefs, or temperaments; can pull it together and survive when times seem at their darkest.

That isn't even limiting to Mass Effect either; Knights of the Old Republic, or Jade Empire count just as much in their own way. Where did it all really go wrong?

 

[Jaimas]

I just keep running it over in my head: What happened?

And that question only intensifies because I took the opportunity and bought ME1 and ME2 during a weekly Steam sale. Hell if I want to get 3 to wrap it all up!

And as I find myself investing myself once again in this big universe of humankind, bug people, dinosaur people, techno-gypsy people, purple women, frog people, and techno-religious robopeople all in this great big struggle to pull together and fight a terrible, mechanized menace from beyond the stars; I can only ask myself what exactly HAPPENED to my well written characters, my stories, my romances, conflicts; each of them in some way resolving themselves in a subtle, Aesop fashion about how any group of people, no matter how different in thoughts, race, beliefs, or temperaments; can pull it together and survive when times seem at their darkest.

That isn't even limiting to Mass Effect either; Knights of the Old Republic, or Jade Empire count just as much in their own way. Where did it all really go wrong?

From what I've learned: Most of Bioware's better staff started to jump ship after the EA buyout. This was doubtlessly a good move. As time went on, the original staff behind their best and brightest - the original teams behind their earlier games - gradually bled out and fucked off for greener pastures. By the time ME3 hit, the bulk of the team had left entirely, and by the last ME3 DLCs, almost everyone from the original teams was gone.

This mass exodus left a vacuum that was quickly filled with the usual ideology in the usual fashion, or so my old buds from the Bioware Forum trolling days explained.

 

[QI 541]

It's mostly a staff exodus and EA's stricter timetables to blame. Dragon Age 1 was developed over 4 years and Dragon Age 2 was made in 18 months.

It takes 4 years to make a video game? They seem to pump out a new Call of Duty and Assassin's Creed at least once a year.

 

[Jaimas]

It takes 4 years to make a video game? They seem to pump out a new Call of Duty and Assassin's Creed at least once a year.

Yeah but those are franchised and intended to be yearly installments in the same vein as sports games.

 

[Batman VS Tony Danza]

I gave up on Bioware fulfilling my RPG needs long ago. Bethesda doesn't always hit their mark but at least they try to make something worthwhile. I still have a backlog of indie RPGs to catch up on and they have more thought put into the writing and gameplay than shit like Mass Effect 3 and everything after Dragon Age: Origins. Then you have Obsidian. I'm more excited about Tyranny than I am Mass Effect: Andromeda

 

[Anchuent Christory]

It takes 4 years to make a video game? They seem to pump out a new Call of Duty and Assassin's Creed at least once a year.

Those are fairly straight forward shooters with each building on the last, Activision also alternate studios with one making the game one year and another the next.

Four years is fairly standard for a large big budget game from a major studio, which is exactly why they try appeal to as many demographics as possible because it represents a huge financial investment.

Of course the one demographic they can never (and should never) appeal to is whiny victim complex types who pick everything apart and twist it to fit their agenda of persecution.

 

[Coleman Francis]

I gave up on Bioware fulfilling my RPG needs long ago. Bethesda doesn't always hit their mark but at least they try to make something worthwhile. I still have a backlog of indie RPGs to catch up on and they have more thought put into the writing and gameplay than shit like Mass Effect 3 and everything after Dragon Age: Origins. Then you have Obsidian. I'm more excited about Tyranny than I am Mass Effect: Andromeda

It's like the indy developers are making better RPG's than the big companies these days. They are actually responding to the market that buys these games rather than trying to change everything about rpg's that made that audience enjoy them in the first place. We still have a few bigger companies that are on the right side though, like you mentioned, Obsidian. They make rpg's that are modern yet still have the detail, choices, intelligent dialogue, and storylines of the older rpg's that the fans still yearn for.

 

[Jaimas]

It's like the indy developers are making better RPG's than the big companies these days. They are actually responding to the market that buys these games rather than trying to change everything about rpg's that made that audience enjoy them in the first place. We still have a few bigger companies that are on the right side though, like you mentioned, Obsidian. They make rpg's that are modern yet still have the detail, choices, intelligent dialogue, and storylines of the older rpg's that the fans still yearn for.

Atlus still firmly holds my proverbial leash.

Fucking Etrian Odyssey.

 

[_blank_]

I remember not too long ago I based my gaming purchases mostly on how the game look and how people said it played mechanically. Also, if it is was a story-based game, if the game was good.

Nowadays, I find myself more often than not decided whether or not to buy a game because of how much of an asshole the developers are.

I presently have Dragon Age: Inquisition sitting on my backlog shelf. Thanks to fuckers from Bioware, I am seriously considering just trading the damn thing in without even trying to start it up.

Also, my props to Manveer Heir from Bioware and his recent tirade against the developers for Deus Ex. He convinced me to cancel my Deus Ex preorder.... and instead get the stupid collector's edition since I won't be needing that money to buy Mass Effect Andromeda anymore.

 

[Oddjob OTP]

I've never really understood the Cult of fans behind Bioware. Yeah, ok, Balder's Gate I and II are beloved. And NWN is my jam, minus the vanilla campaign which sucked balls. But Mass Effect, Dragon Agerigins, and KotOR 1 are all 7/10, and every thing else they developed was either alright in a shitty way or just plain shit. So, in my estimation the last Great game they developed was NWN:HotU in 2003, they were eaten by EA in 2007. EA acquiring them didn't cause their decent into shovelware, it just hastened it.

 

[Surtur]

Im gonna keep Bioware games just so I can drink the tears of buuthurt goobergators everywhere. Plus, Inquisition was pretty awesome.

 

[Coleman Francis]

I've never really understood the Cult of fans behind Bioware. Yeah, ok, Balder's Gate I and II are beloved. And NWN is my jam, minus the vanilla campaign which sucked balls. But Mass Effect, Dragon Agerigins, and KotOR 1 are all 7/10, and every thing else they developed was either alright in a shitty way or just plain shit. So, in my estimation the last Great game they developed was NWN:HotU in 2003, they were eaten by EA in 2007. EA acquiring them didn't cause their decent into shovelware, it just hastened it.

Is the first Mass Effect worth getting? I liked NWN and Kotor 1 and 2, though 2 was made by a rushed Obsidian IIRC, as well as the 2 Baldur's Gates. Other than those games, IDK, I never really considered them too great besides the ones we mentioned already, and they really took a turn for the shitty as of late. Though I heard that ME was pretty cool, particularly the first game and to a lesser extent part 2, though the 3rd game was garbage I've been told.

Same with Dragon Age. The 1st one was supposed to be good but the 2nd one not so much. I'm thinking about getting a used copy of the first ME though if its pretty good. It's very cheap for a used one right now.

 

[DuskEngine]

Is the first Mass Effect worth getting? I liked NWN and Kotor 1 and 2, though 2 was made by a rushed Obsidian IIRC, as well as the 2 Baldur's Gates. Other than those games, IDK, I never really considered them too great besides the ones we mentioned already, and they really took a turn for the shitty as of late. Though I heard that ME was pretty cool, particularly the first game and to a lesser extent part 2, though the 3rd game was garbage I've been told.

Same with Dragon Age. The 1st one was supposed to be good but the 2nd one not so much. I'm thinking about getting a used copy of the first ME though if its pretty good. It's very cheap for a used one right now.

The 1st one plays pretty clunkily and some of the party members are pretty forgettable, but it's the closest to a 'traditional' Bioware RPG and has a pretty interesting plot and setting. But it was Bioware's first proper foray into a major action-RPG, and it shows.

I honestly think 2 is the best in the series, even though it's definitely more of an action game. imo it actually benefits from leaning more towards being a shooter though, and it has more interesting party members and a tighter plot.

3 is pretty bad, yeah.

EDIT: They're on sale most of the time on Steam iirc

 

[Coleman Francis]

The 1st one plays pretty clunkily and some of the party members are pretty forgettable, but it's the closest to a 'traditional' Bioware RPG and has a pretty interesting plot and setting. But it was Bioware's first proper foray into a major action-RPG, and it shows.

I honestly think 2 is the best in the series, even though it's definitely more of an action game. imo it actually benefits from leaning more towards being a shooter though, and it has more interesting party members and a tighter plot.

3 is pretty bad, yeah.

EDIT: They're on sale most of the time on Steam iirc

Thanks for that information. I didn't know about them being on Steam, that is probably the route I'm going to take then. I was thinking about getting the first one on xbox, but you have convinced me otherwise. I think I might still get the first one, but now I'm getting somewhat curious about that second game. If they are both on Steam for a good, reasonable price I'll go ahead and get both of them.

 

[Oddjob OTP]

Is the first Mass Effect worth getting? I liked NWN and Kotor 1 and 2, though 2 was made by a rushed Obsidian IIRC, as well as the 2 Baldur's Gates. Other than those games, IDK, I never really considered them too great besides the ones we mentioned already, and they really took a turn for the shitty as of late. Though I heard that ME was pretty cool, particularly the first game and to a lesser extent part 2, though the 3rd game was garbage I've been told.

Same with Dragon Age. The 1st one was supposed to be good but the 2nd one not so much. I'm thinking about getting a used copy of the first ME though if its pretty good. It's very cheap for a used one right now.

I pretty much agree with this reguarding the first ME:

The 1st one plays pretty clunkily and some of the party members are pretty forgettable, but it's the closest to a 'traditional' Bioware RPG and has a pretty interesting plot and setting. But it was Bioware's first proper foray into a major action-RPG, and it shows.

Mass Effect 2 plays better as a game, but the writing is pretty uneven. The introduction for example really grinds my gears.

Spoiler: Nothing you wouldn't hear in the first 1/2 hour of ME2

Cruising the galaxy, the PC's ship is attacked by a spooky ship. You die. A mysterious guy named (fittingly) Illusive Man spends a metric fuckton on having you revived, science be damned. Now you work for him, rooting out the alien threat like you were anyway

It also ends much more cliff-hangery then they first one, which is always shitty.