A Friend's Predicament -

[BurtyDrappedCreifs]

Quick Not-So-Cool-Story-Bro: Friend of mine had been living with his mother as her caretaker for years. She passes away last Winter. He's pretty much been living on what's left in the bank account and what he can manage to get from selling off assorted collectables on eBay. Still will likely end up losing the house by the end of Summer when the bank savings run dry and the foreclosure kicks in. Keep trying to tell him to at least try to sell off the house and maybe get some money left for himself after the banks and Uncle Sam take their cut. Fortunately he may be able to move in with a relative so at least he has a chance at keeping away from the hobos till he can possibly land some sort of job.

And he's no aspie or ree-ree at all. He's just in a very unenviable spot.

If he's having this much hassle having to tackle it all by himself, I just know that Chris is going to be royally doomed. This is the sort of thing that is a nightmare even for the sane and level-headed. It will crush a selfish delusional idiot such as Chris like a cockroach under a bowling ball dropped on top of him. Aspies have a dreaded fear of change, and a scenario like this is guaranteed to be all of Chris' worst nightmares come to life.

 

[DangDirtyTrolls]

I don't know how things work in Virginia/USA. Is it possible Chris would become a ward of the state?

 

[Marvin]

I don't know how things work in Virginia/USA. Is it possible Chris would become a ward of the state?

He's an adult, so, no.

 

[DangDirtyTrolls]

I don't know how things work in Virginia/USA. Is it possible Chris would become a ward of the state?

He's an adult, so, no.

Again I don't know how it works in USA but adults can become wards of the state in my country, if they are deemed incapable of looking after themselves such as through mental retardation and have no living relatives capable/willing to look after them. What happens in those cases in America then?

Chris may be 'high-functioning' and we have a pretty good handle on his capabilities, but to the bureaucrats whose only impression of him will be a few interviews and some background information I could reasonably see him being deemed incapable of looking after himself.

 

[Marvin]

I don't know how things work in Virginia/USA. Is it possible Chris would become a ward of the state?

He's an adult, so, no.

Again I don't know how it works in USA but adults can become wards of the state in my country, if they are deemed incapable of looking after themselves such as through mental retardation and have no living relatives capable/willing to look after them. What happens in those cases in America then?

Chris may be 'high-functioning' and we have a pretty good handle on his capabilities, but to the bureaucrats whose only impression of him will be a few interviews and some background information I could reasonably see him being deemed incapable of looking after himself.

No, they only do that sort of thing for drooling morons here. Chris is eccentric, but not even remotely close to the levels required that they'd declare him a ward of the state.

 

[LordCustos3]

Chris may be 'high-functioning'....

Uh, he WAS diagnosed as "High Functioning" a long, long time ago.
That was before he became a clinical paranoid, cross-dressing, borderline-basketcase felon that we all know and rubberneck today.

If he we diagnosed now, it would be easier to go through the DSM-IVTR and cross out what disorders he DOESN'T have.

 

[DangDirtyTrolls]

Uh, he WAS diagnosed as "High Functioning" a long, long time ago.

No he wasn't because the DSM makes no distinction between 'high-functioning' and 'low-functioning' autism, that's purely something some autistics like Chris have come up with to distinguish between milder and more severe cases of autism. If you read the [cwc]Autism_papers[/cwc] you'll see 'autism' is mentioned plenty of times but there is no mention of 'high-functioning'.

It's like Chris refusing to accept Aspergers as being on the autism spectrum despite it being exactly that in DSM-V. Chris is never a reliable source of information.

 

[Zero Gun: Fenrir]

I don't know how things work in Virginia/USA. Is it possible Chris would become a ward of the state?

He's an adult, so, no.

Again I don't know how it works in USA but adults can become wards of the state in my country, if they are deemed incapable of looking after themselves such as through mental retardation and have no living relatives capable/willing to look after them. What happens in those cases in America then?

Chris may be 'high-functioning' and we have a pretty good handle on his capabilities, but to the bureaucrats whose only impression of him will be a few interviews and some background information I could reasonably see him being deemed incapable of looking after himself.

Pffft, HA, HA, HA, HA, HA. Oh, man, that was quite funny. America actually taking care of the citizens that are actually in need. I mean, come on, seriously, that would be declared "communist" immediately anywhere outside of Southern California. In a rather redneck state like Virginia, he almost certainly won't be a ward of the state, you see, "communism" isn't a TRUE and HONEST democratic value. If you're middle class, and unemployed, you're grouped in with the stereotype of poor-ass black moms living the ghetto-ass parts of the city with eight children, each with a different father, and mooching off of our taxpayer money that we paid. I mean, we, the lucky few who actually make decent money, shouldn't be expected to care for someone who is clearly lazy, and who can obviously function in normal society, isn't subject to rampant discrimination against the poor (read: those who aren't the CEO of a large company, or is a politician) and minorities. Chris is screwed when Barb passes away, as the government isn't likely to be much help (at least the government of Virginia wouldn't be. If he were living in San Francisco, I could see him possibly receiving help from the government to become a productive member of society, but anywhere else, especially in the south, he's screwed.) So, yeah Chris is perfectly free to be poor, homeless, and crazy according to our government.

Ok, cynical rant over. I find it funny though that people in other countries actually have a government that will provide some services to those who need it, and then they take it for granted and assume that those of us in the USA have it just as good.

 

[qld]

Quick Not-So-Cool-Story-Bro: Friend of mine had been living with his mother as her caretaker for years. She passes away last Winter. He's pretty much been living on what's left in the bank account and what he can manage to get from selling off assorted collectables on eBay. Still will likely end up losing the house by the end of Summer when the bank savings run dry and the foreclosure kicks in. Keep trying to tell him to at least try to sell off the house and maybe get some money left for himself after the banks and Uncle Sam take their cut. Fortunately he may be able to move in with a relative so at least he has a chance at keeping away from the hobos till he can possibly land some sort of job.

And he's no aspie or ree-ree at all. He's just in a very unenviable spot.

If he's having this much hassle having to tackle it all by himself, I just know that Chris is going to be royally doomed. This is the sort of thing that is a nightmare even for the sane and level-headed. It will crush a selfish delusional idiot such as Chris like a cockroach under a bowling ball dropped on top of him. Aspies have a dreaded fear of change, and a scenario like this is guaranteed to be all of Chris' worst nightmares come to life.

How does anyone know how far 14 BLC is from being mortgage free, if not already paid off? Does anyone know Chris won't be getting a nice chunk of life insurance when it finally happens? For all any of us know, Chris could just be looking at paying his taxes 1-4 x a year, in addition to the monthly bills he pays now.
If Barb has a will, then things will be set out. If not, what is to keep Cole Smithey from swooping in and wanting half? Not that he wants any of it, but he might want the house/land sold because he might see it as an easy 100K. He may take the reigns and tell Chris how it's going to be.

 

[Stratochu]

Quick Not-So-Cool-Story-Bro: Friend of mine had been living with his mother as her caretaker for years. She passes away last Winter. He's pretty much been living on what's left in the bank account and what he can manage to get from selling off assorted collectables on eBay. Still will likely end up losing the house by the end of Summer when the bank savings run dry and the foreclosure kicks in. Keep trying to tell him to at least try to sell off the house and maybe get some money left for himself after the banks and Uncle Sam take their cut. Fortunately he may be able to move in with a relative so at least he has a chance at keeping away from the hobos till he can possibly land some sort of job.

And he's no aspie or ree-ree at all. He's just in a very unenviable spot.

If he's having this much hassle having to tackle it all by himself, I just know that Chris is going to be royally doomed. This is the sort of thing that is a nightmare even for the sane and level-headed. It will crush a selfish delusional idiot such as Chris like a cockroach under a bowling ball dropped on top of him. Aspies have a dreaded fear of change, and a scenario like this is guaranteed to be all of Chris' worst nightmares come to life.

How does anyone know how far 14 BLC is from being mortgage free, if not already paid off? Does anyone know Chris won't be getting a nice chunk of life insurance when it finally happens? For all any of us know, Chris could just be looking at paying his taxes 1-4 x a year, in addition to the monthly bills he pays now.
If Barb has a will, then things will be set out. If not, what is to keep Cole Smithey from swooping in and wanting half? Not that he wants any of it, but he might want the house/land sold because he might see it as an easy 100K. He may take the reigns and tell Chris how it's going to be.

Yeah, I'm thinking Coleslaw will want as much out of it as he can, but out of common decency would still allow Chris to have his toys and vidya and the Dodge Caravan or Aerostar (I'm guessing that the Aerostar may still exist somewhere on 14BC's back 40 since a forum poster specifically mentioned a Ford Aerostar when they passed 14BC fairly recently, and Barb is probably attached to it like she is to the BMW if so), so that he will have transportation and shelter.

 

[qld]

Yeah, I think Smithey would want the half he views as his, but would also give Chris his due at the same time. Which would mean liquidating the house and Chris could take his proceeds and run, or remortgage to pay for Cole's half. The contents of the house are debatable, what's Chris' isn't up for grabs, and the rest (as crappy as it may be) could be subject to sale and split unless Chris makes a good case that it is his property. Chris would also own half of it, but without the house, would have to let it go if he's got nowhere to keep it.

 

[Coldgrip]

Pretty sure Cole want's nothing to do with Blorb, the horde and Chris.

Edit* And what half does he view as his?

 

[Kosher Dill]

How does anyone know how far 14 BLC is from being mortgage free, if not already paid off?

It's anyone's guess. They've owned the place for over 30 years, so in theory a regular mortgage would be fully paid off by now. But they could have foolishly refinanced, got a second mortgage to fuel the hoard, or any number of other things.

 

[BurtyDrappedCreifs]

How does anyone know how far 14 BLC is from being mortgage free, if not already paid off?

It's anyone's guess. They've owned the place for over 30 years, so in theory a regular mortgage would be fully paid off by now. But they could have foolishly refinanced, got a second mortgage to fuel the hoard, or any number of other things.

I have the suspicion that the exile outside of Greene County quickly used up whatever life savings Barb & Bob may have had, and when forced to return back to the house that even they hated (but couldn't sell off), their finances were in bad shape. No doubt they did refinance and have been slowly living off the money ever since, barely keeping the foreclosure sign off the door by making as minimal payments as possible. Back then they still had a remaining glimmer of hope that their wonderful Christian would have been able to find a job and a place of his own long before the Doomsday, when the bills wold come due but both parents would be dead so the bank can go pound sand. hahah sucker.

Obviously, what with Chris being a gigantic manbaby and parasite who wasn't going anywhere, that plan fell apart fast, and that's when Bob & Barb settled on Plan B: slowly give up on life and die.

 

[DangDirtyTrolls]

How does anyone know how far 14 BLC is from being mortgage free, if not already paid off?

It's anyone's guess. They've owned the place for over 30 years, so in theory a regular mortgage would be fully paid off by now. But they could have foolishly refinanced, got a second mortgage to fuel the hoard, or any number of other things.

At a guess I'd say there's a good chance they own the house outright. Chris may be terrible with money but that doesn't mean Bob and Barb are too. Both Bob and Barb were gainfully employed, they owned multiple cars, ate out quite often and Barb was even able to retire early. Bob and Barb lived in two different locations at one point so Chris could go to school in a specific district and they even bailed Chris out of debt at least once that I know of. At the time Bob was alive there were never any real suggestions they struggled financially but then again it's unlikely they'd bother telling Chris if they were.

 

[Thetan]

No, they only do that sort of thing for drooling morons here. Chris is eccentric, but not even remotely close to the levels required that they'd declare him a ward of the state.

Actually, given that it's unlikely that any of Chris's surviving relatives would take him in, it's possible that he could be given a state-appointed guardian. I worked with one such individual last year, when I did a short stint as a 'Direct Care Provider'. If you met her, you'd understand why none of her relatives wanted to take her in.

This individual was very similar to Chris, self-absorbed, narcissistic, and loved playing the victim. She was in her early 30s and had physical and psychological issues which were the result of a serious auto accident. (She wasn't crippled and she wasn't retarded. ) Still, she was significantly higher-functioning than Chris . She lived alone in a state-subsidized apartment, did her own shopping, cooking, and laundry and got herself around via public transportation. Like Chris she had an enormous sense of entitlement and chose to play the disability card when it suited her. She started kicking up a fuss when her program funding got reduced and she was told that she would either have to get a job to supplement her disability income or enter into a vocational training program (which would help her to get a job). The most significant difference between her and Chris is that she was much better about her personal hygiene and kept her apartment neat and uncluttered. Despite all of this, she had a guardian appointed by the state.

Anyway, to get to my point; I don't know how such laws work in Virginia, but I wouldn't say that a state-appointed guardian is out of the question. It's quite obvious that Chris doesn't have the emotional maturity to be able to manage his own affairs and live independently, even if he has managed to acquire some rudimentary skills with paying the household bills. That alone isn't going to be enough.

 

[Marvin]

Anyway, to get to my point; I don't know how such laws work in Virginia, but I wouldn't say that a state-appointed guardian is out of the question. It's quite obvious that Chris doesn't have the emotional maturity to be able to manage his own affairs and live independently, even if he has managed to acquire some rudimentary skills with paying the household bills. That alone isn't going to be enough.

I think it's pretty unlikely to happen to Chris. The requirements, at least in Virginia, for assigning a state appointed guardianship are pretty high. Plus, someone would need to submit a petition to get the process going, and I don't think there's anyone around Chris who would do that.

 

[DangDirtyTrolls]

I think it's pretty unlikely to happen to Chris. The requirements, at least in Virginia, for assigning a state appointed guardianship are pretty high. Plus, someone would need to submit a petition to get the process going, and I don't think there's anyone around Chris who would do that.

Is Rocky completely 100% out of the picture now? I know Chris blew her off when he thought she'd stopped being useful but she stayed with Chris for a long time and through quite a number of situations. I remember reading she was even aware of Chris going incognito amongst the trolls and getting them to suggest he rape her.

Chris also mentioned in a Tweet Rocky was helping him sort out some place to stay after his mother passed. Is it possible Rocky could submit the petition?

 

[Alec Benson Leary]

I think it's pretty unlikely to happen to Chris. The requirements, at least in Virginia, for assigning a state appointed guardianship are pretty high. Plus, someone would need to submit a petition to get the process going, and I don't think there's anyone around Chris who would do that.

And before anyone asks, the state department won't take it seriously if it comes from an internet den of 'tism spectators.

 

[Thetan]

Anyway, to get to my point; I don't know how such laws work in Virginia, but I wouldn't say that a state-appointed guardian is out of the question. It's quite obvious that Chris doesn't have the emotional maturity to be able to manage his own affairs and live independently, even if he has managed to acquire some rudimentary skills with paying the household bills. That alone isn't going to be enough.

I think it's pretty unlikely to happen to Chris. The requirements, at least in Virginia, for assigning a state appointed guardianship are pretty high. Plus, someone would need to submit a petition to get the process going, and I don't think there's anyone around Chris who would do that.

I'm not sure how they got her approved. She was living her life almost totally independently. The only time the state-appointed guardian came into play was when there were legal issues involved. For example, she needed a co-signer on her lease (which seemed odd to me, everything else considered).

Anyway, I guess we'll never know until after Barb is gone. If Chris is smart, he'll sell the house for whatever he can get for it, and use the money to rent a 1 bedroom apartment in Charlottesville. He should get enough for a few years rent at least. Also, if he lived in Charlottesville, he could get rid of the car (and the additional expense of insurance, gas, and maintenance) and take public transportation. Ideally, he should look for a job as well but..... we know how well that's likely to work out.