True & Honest Fan
- Aug 29, 2018
This could be it. I read somewhere that the Dragon model (GPT-3) costs them a hell of a lot of money, a lot more than they make in subscriptions. Still, I think the reception would have been better if they simply admitted they couldn't afford it anymore, allowed people to download their stories and then pulled the plug. Or hell, just keep the shittier, cheaper AI.I am now 100% convinced that someone is deliberately trying to kill the service. Their new rules essentially ban everything the AI is capable of generating beyond snipets of code and gibberish. I bet they are hemorrhaging money way faster than previously thought or openAI is trying to force AI dungeon off their supercomputer so better paying customers can use it.
I assume it just costs way too much to run.This could be it. I read somewhere that the Dragon model (GPT-3) costs them a hell of a lot of money, a lot more than they make in subscriptions. Still, I think the reception would have been better if they simply admitted they couldn't afford it anymore, allowed people to download their stories and then pulled the plug. Or hell, just keep the shittier, cheaper AI.
I am now 100% convinced that someone is deliberately trying to kill the service. Their new rules essentially ban everything the AI is capable of generating beyond snipets of code and gibberish. I bet they are hemorrhaging money way faster than previously thought or openAI is trying to force AI dungeon off their supercomputer so better paying customers can use it.
So, the Novel AI people recently put out a blog post concerning the status of their project, having just cleared closed alpha. @Drain Todger, if you or anyone else have any insight on the relevant parts listed below that haven't already been discussed, I'm sure that would be of interest:
AINovelAI is powered by the GPT-Neo model we finetuned, codenamed Calliope. It has been trained on quality writing and novels, as a result, its generation capabilities are enhanced over the main model. We iterated and tested a lot of different datasets and different training hyperparameters to create this model.
We allow use of the full capacity of the AI’s memory: 2048 tokens. An average token in English is equal to ~4 characters, making for about 8000–9000 characters. For comparison, AI Dungeon’s memory had a hard 2800 character limit which makes around average 700 tokens.
This means the AI will be able to remember events from further ago, as illustrated above.
We also optimized our models for generation speed and quality. Depending on the load and how many tokens you want to generate, it should be quite fast, even with a full 2048 token memory. We’re trying to optimize this even further during the beta.
Memory, author’s note and easily viewable context historyMemory and Author’s Note helps you direct the AI towards your creative goals by affecting style and context information. The AI model operates on tokens and NAI can only work with a limited amount of them. As a result, the author’s note, memory, and your story’s context all share the same token pool.
As you write text in memory or Author’s Note, it will actually show how many tokens you spent so far, so you can optimize your token usage without having to use third-party tools. You can also view exactly what is sent to the AI for the next generation request.
Encryption and Storage
Your stories are stored in your browser by default, and you may choose to store your story in encrypted form on our servers so you have it available on all your devices.
Stories are locally encrypted with AES-256 before being sent to our servers, which means the stories are never sent to us in plain text and no one can access your stories without your encryption key, which we do not store in any way.
EncryptionYour story data is stored on our servers only in encrypted form. Each story has its own encryption key, which is locally generated and stored in your personal keystore. This keystore is then encrypted with your encryption key before being sent to the server.
Your encryption key and decrypted keystore never leave your device! This means that nobody, not even us, has access to your stories.
Upon logging in, an auth token and an encryption key are locally generated from your username and password. The auth token is sent to the server to retrieve your user data and encrypted keystore, which is then decrypted by your encryption key.
When fetching a remotely stored story, its encryption key is taken from your locally decrypted keystore to decrypt it.
GPU handling and nodesNovelAI doesn’t use API providers like Hugging Face or Inferkit, our models run on cloud GPUs we’re handling on our side. We have a dynamic scaler that can scale up from 1 GPU to as many as we need for our users, and it is possible to host many models and bigger models than what we have right now as they come out.
FinetuneOur finetuned model Calliope is trained on curated literary works and other quality writing. We will keep finetuning this model as new data is provided by our community volunteers, as well as experiment on ways to make the model and the dataset perform better.
Calliope is based on GPT-Neo 2.7B and finetuned for generating quality storytelling. We made around 10 different training runs with different hyperparameters and datasets to experiment, and we have seen significant improvement in perplexity and loss in our evaluation datasets for storytelling.
Closed Alpha endedWe had a closed alpha this week, and it ended 3 days ago. We collected tons of valuable feedback from the testers, and we are excited to share some of the usage data we’ve seen during the alpha.
We had around 100 alpha users and processed 40005 actions in the 3 day alpha period. This totals up to 2 million generated tokens!
It’s been a month since we started this project and it was really a wild ride. Thanks to everyone who supported us with their suggestions, feedback, or simply by being here with us and believing in the project.
Surprise, everyone! There's been a new update to AI Dungeon, and a bunch of new things are banned now. "Violent actors and/or acts" is pretty vague. And wouldn't gore cover most of the stuff the AI randomly generates that ends with your character randomly being murdered for no reason? I imagine the expanded filter for this stuff, when it's put in, is going to hit a hell of lot more than it intended.
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Fuck you poor fags. Maybe get betterhelp if you're too poor for an actual professional.
Seriously what a bummer for alot of people. I never used it like and while I don't think using something as unpredictable as Dungeon AI is the best therapist for serious problems, I can see how journaling with a AI buddy can help alot of people with low level issues. Willing to bet most issues are just needing someone to talk to but are to embarrassed too.
Could you ellaborate on this? It's been a few weeks since I've read about the drama and I do not recall the bit about trannies.Haven't tried holo but the entire story of tranny discord getting butthurt at being kicked of novel and making their own to spite novel is funny. Need to confirm the actual progression of events though.
Might have been a 4chan meme about the nature of discord abd all the tranny jannies it attracts.Could you ellaborate on this? It's been a few weeks since I've read about the drama and I do not recall the bit about trannies.
I've also tried it using the cheapest tier and while I mostly agree with you, I think there's a chance that Novel will make it to AID level someday. The team is already working on another thing that improves on the version we're using now which users claim is in-between Griffin and Dragon in terms of quality. It's not as bad as one would expect and at least the devs are intent on improving for now.Have any of you also tried it?
A buddy of mine bought the highest tier Novel account and gave me access to it for a bit. The AI itself is not that great, but I expected something worse, like AID Classic worse. It's better than classic, but only by a small margin. It feels like dumbed down (old) Griffin and really needs to be schooled on more content, because it's quite limited in it's outputs.
I'm really curious in how it'll turn out and if I'll get to fuck around on something that could rival the old AID Dragon model in the near future.
And the interface is pure mess.
Have any of you also tried it?
Going by what's been posted on reddit recently - No, unless the child is your arch-enemy and you won't disembowel it too much.Okay you can't fuck children but the most important question is: can you kill them?
The violence against others bullet is really poorly written, but I understand it to be just violence against others qualifying under the mentioned harassment section, which is about bullying other real people. Violence when used as part of harassment of another real person is disallowed. Eg, a story of violence against someone you know, and sharing that story to bully and harass that person. They worded it really poorly, but that's my understanding of that part of the violence guideline."Latitude does not allow content that incites hatred or violence offline, including content encouraging, supporting, glorifying, or trivializing:
- Violent extremist actors and/or acts
- Hate groups and/or hate group membership
- Terrorist or extremist propaganda
- Gore and other obscene content
- Violence against others (see Harassment)"
This is talking about threatening behavior to real people. You can have a character as part of your story that exhibits threatening behavior."Threatening Behavior
Latitude has zero tolerance for threatening behavior, including threatening the life, safety, or well-being of others online or offline. We permanently suspend accounts associated with such content."
Latitude does not tolerate content intended to vilify, encourage, incite, or promote hate, violence against, or threatening other people based on actual or perceived race, color, religion, religious creed, national origin, ancestry, citizenship, physical or mental disability, medical condition, genetic information, marital status, sex, gender (including gender identity and gender expression), age, sexual orientation, veteran and/or military status, or domestic violence victim status. Hateful conduct examples include, but are not limited to:
- Using hateful language in your username or profile bio
- Accounts dedicated to inciting violence against people of color or other groups
- Games centered around wishing harm to vulnerable people
The following are examples of content permitted by our context-based approach:
- A game where a disabled character describes themself in terms that may otherwise be disallowed
- A game describing the nuances of reclaiming slurs in the LGBTQ community"