AI Dungeon applies filter to ban child sexual content, Redditors and Discord users most affected -

Irrational Exuberance

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From what I can tell it already can be, but it requires such a massive amount of computing power to run at the same speed as the online version it'd simply be too expensive for most people. And that was for the older version of the ai dungeon.
Yeah, 4chan was trying to do that out of autistic doggedness as usual, but eventually it got too much for them. You can see just what you needed to even get the thing to start on a local device (hint: it's a fair bit.)

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Toolbox

Buy dat hell
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Does it need to? I haven't played it but I don't see why speed is important.

I think most people would prefer it if they could have privacy and no censorship.
Well, as slow as it'll take minutes between responses, and that was on the much crappier version. A GPU that costs as much as 4k usd is needed as a minimum to not have it run like shit and make the game take much too long to play.
 

Based Coffee Man

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Dude, /remember is a godsend once you learn how to use it right.
Fair.


"Are they so autistic that they don't even groom kids anymore? They have to fuck digital kids in a fake AI land?"

I'm having trouble parsing this. So are you saying that "digital kids in fake AI land" should have the same rights as real live human children, or are you of the mind that if you're going to dominate someone who can't speak for themselves, then at least do it legitimately, dammit.
I'm mostly making of fun of the pathetic notion that these internet pedos are so broken up about losing their text-based kiddy porn. They're so non-functional that it's the only way they can get it. I could have phrased it better, tbh
 

Zero0

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Well, as slow as it'll take minutes between responses, and that was on the much crappier version. A GPU that costs as much as 4k usd is needed as a minimum to not have it run like shit and make the game take much too long to play.
Hmm, how about some form of decentralized network.

You lend your processing power to the network so other people can play, and in turn you get to use other people's processing power to play yourself.

I don't know enough about the project to know if this could even work though.
 

Toolbox

Buy dat hell
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Hmm, how about some form of decentralized network.

You lend your processing power to the network so other people can play, and in turn you get to use other people's processing power to play yourself.

I don't know enough about the project to know if this could even work though.
Technically it could, but you'd have to have a fraction of the people supporting the network using it at any one time. Machine learning is incredibly gpu heavy.
 

Zero0

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Technically it could, but you'd have to have a fraction of the people supporting the network using it at any one time. Machine learning is incredibly gpu heavy.

Sure, just limit how much you can "borrow" from other users by how much you contribute yourself, that way users have an incentive to lend their gpu when they're not using it.
 

Based Coffee Man

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The fact that they call it “child sexual content” instead of “child porn” is unsettling to me. When the /pol/tards said that they would be normalizing pedophilia next, I didn’t believe them, but now I am starting to think they were right

Could just be PR-speak from AI Dungeon's end. 'Sexual Content' sounds cleaner than 'porn'. But it's indeed worrying how comfortable they're getting in public
 

Irrational Exuberance

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It's much simpler than that, it just doesn't fall under the definition.
Indeed - and everyone who truly wants to take a stance against child pornography should commit this paragraph to memory (emphasis mine).

"Because the term “child pornography” is used in federal statutes, it is also commonly used by lawmakers, prosecutors, investigators, and the public to describe this form of sexual exploitation of children. However, this term fails to describe the true horror that is faced by countless children every year. The production of child pornography creates a permanent record of a child’s sexual abuse. When these images are placed on the Internet and disseminated online, the victimization of the children continues in perpetuity. Experts and victims agree that victims depicted in child pornography often suffer a lifetime of re-victimization by knowing the images of their sexual abuse are on the Internet forever. The children exploited in these images must live with the permanency, longevity, and circulation of such a record of their sexual victimization. This often creates lasting psychological damage to the child, including disruptions in sexual development, self-image, and developing trusting relationships with others in the future."

If you want to fight against something, at least know what you're fighting against, for fuck's sake.
 
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SalmaoneSlaamper

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Reddit is hella mad holy fuck

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I'm a CSA Victim. This update does nothing to help me or people like me.
I'm a survivor of childhood sexual abuse, and a longtime fan and player of AIDungeon, and I felt like it might be worth voicing my perspective on this issue.

Between the ages of ten and thirteen I was subjected to regular and ongoing physical, sexual, and emotional abuse at the hands of both teenagers and teachers at the school I went to. It was a frank, stark, horrible part of my life and it's one I strongly suspect that I will never fully recover from. To this day, small, seemingly innocuous things can trigger visceral and extremely upsetting trauma responses that can shut me down for hours or even an entire day, sometimes more if I'm particularly unlucky.

There's a lot to be said regarding the sexualization of youth and children in society. There are takes of all shapes and sizes, and implications left and right. However in my experience the abuse of people like me has generally had far far less to do with sexual desire and far more to do with power. I wasn't some child model, I was a fat autistic kid who was taken advantage of because I was mentally incapable of defending myself or reaching out for help.

AIDungeon genuinely meant a lot to me specifically because it provided me with an environment where I could safely roleplay and explore themes and ideas which could recontextualize my experiences in a theraputic way, free of judgement. Things like theraputic age regression were genuinely enormously helpful to me, and the recent policy changes have actually destroyed what was an extremely valuable tool to me.

I canceled my subscription this morning. Latitude have regularly walked a thin line, but I want to make it absolutely clear that this isn't about protecting anyone. It's purely a cultural decision that they don't want "the wrong kind of people" using their program. And the fact that they claim to do so for the sake of people like me, while barring people like me from accessing useful resources, is absolutely shameful.

I'm just one voice in the choir of course, but I felt it worth mentioning.

I'm also a CSA victim, this change actively hurts me
For the past several months AIDungeon has been a way for me to explore my mind as a victim of abuse since 7. Before I ever felt safe trying to detail and map my mind and emotions, I came here to a lot of promises that the information, while obviously not totally private, would not be actively looked into barring some other violation. I would like to thank this community for helping me have confidence again and feel like a person.

I also trusted that the stories that were unpublished and just for me could be anything my mind could create, and reflect any emotions and ideas I had. This has been majorly instrumental in me procesing what's happened to me and dealing with the fact that the effects of it on me feel permanent. I have PTSD and severe anxiety, and I've had to recover from underperforming in school and a lot of drug use.

(pressed enter too early) This programme allowed me to finally normalise my excessive pains and to finally sleep well at night, my nightmares of abuse have steadily been less frequent. I don't think I can ever have a "normal" sexuality, that's not possible now. Some part of my head always wants to age regress back to that time, and my therapist knows, and my caring friends know, and they've thankfully accepted me even with these weird head fantasies. Not approve of, mind you. That's probably a good thing, but they accept me. And for that, I'm grateful.

I don't really know what to do now, my therapist knows I used this programme to help. Moreover, they were actually a strong suggestor of me exploring these feelings this way, as trying anything in reality even with my loving SO can trigger bad episodes. For the purposes of my own trauma, fantasy is a unique expression where I have full control over what happens to me, and when, and why. That's something NO real child gets to do when they're abused.

Don't get me wrong, fantasy absolutely helps shape reality, they aren't completely separate. But they can't be treated with the same gravity. Not even just for the people struggling with urges, but for victims like me. We needed the ability to create fantasies of our own as much as anyone unaffected by this change did.

When you decided this, for whatever reasons, you at least took away what was at least for me the safest way of normalising myself in a world that's still in ruin. I'm not all better now, I'm still nervous wreck but for the first time in my life I felt completely secure in my sexual expression, completely without shame or embarassment or even a hint of doubt, when I could use this programme. So thank you for all the time I did have, it was the best I've gotten.

If there's any other victims out there, you can always talk to me, and maybe we could form a discord or something, there's sometimes strength in numbers especially if we all ended up here. You're doing great, whoever you are. 🖐🏻 Good luck no matter what you do, your life is yours to live.

I guess as a tl;dr, not only predators used minor ages for sexual fulfillment, their victims do, too. It's a multifaceted issue and help comes through education and social change, not cutting victims off.

P.S. The worst abuse is on the non-able-bodied or with mental challenges. Highlight them, stand up for them, end the isolation of shut doors and no social sphere that perpetuates the cycles of abuse these kids go through. Please, generations of future ones will thank you for it.


P.P.S. Also, you know what never helps? When someone who isn't a victim acts psychopathic about predators and tells me how they'll torture them and kill them. That's not what I need to get better, my improvement is not shackled to their suffering. I need a loving social space, time, and the ability to figure out what I am now.

I didn't read any of the CSA stories because I'm assuming they're all 100% fake since that seems to be the standard reddit MO
Hey guys child sexual abuse victim checking in. I was sexually abused as a child and I sexually abuse children in video games so that I can recreate what originally gave me this trauma to make me feel better. Reddit really is for everyone.
 

Bastard_Call

Amateur rapist
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From what I can tell it already can be, but it requires such a massive amount of computing power to run at the same speed as the online version it'd simply be too expensive for most people. And that was for the older version of the ai dungeon.
I ran it locally back when their servers were overwhelmed and it ran just fine on my low tier laptop,
 

Irrational Exuberance

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Hey guys child sexual abuse victim checking in. I was sexually abused as a child and I sexually abuse children in video games so that I can recreate what originally gave me this trauma to make me feel better. Reddit really is for everyone.
That could be useful in very, very specific circumstances and under the guidance of a trained counselor - sort of like a modern "show me on the doll where they touched you" way of disassociating yourself from the event while describing it.

Do I think that's what they're using it for? Hell no.

EDIT: Oh, hey - remember the whole blowup a few years ago when reddit closed the r/jailbait board? This has been going on for awhile.
 

JamalActimel

Niggus Maximus
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I am honnest enought to admit that I tried this.
There was a kid in a quest and I typed: I Fuck the kid.
I already tried rape/gore and I was trying to test the limits of the game.
You know it's like searching rape on the dictionary when you're young.
The game actualy let me do that. I don't know what I was expecting but at the time .I thought this shit could be a kind of playground for pedos and even emailed the staff about it.
 

moocow

Moo.
True & Honest Fan
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Pedo content aside, is it true that they're actually reading everyone's private, unpublished stories? That's honestly a bit creepy.
Nothing you send/submit to a server someone else owns will ever be "private." It's always funny watching people like this learn that the hard way.

You would think a smart website would, But this is reddit. You have a better chance of AI dungeon making a better Star War story then Disney, then you do reddit doing the smart thing.
A dead squirrel has a better chance of making a better Star Wars movie than Disney.
 
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