AI Dungeon applies filter to ban child sexual content, Redditors and Discord users most affected -

magnymagic

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Hey, Magnus from the OP here. How you doing? You guys like flinging shit, so let me set you straight.

I am not a pedo, kek. I hate that shit. You know what I hate? Extremely invasive privacy invasions and the destruction of free speech via kneejerk attacks like 'pedo'. Are you lot really going to sit here and tell me that any time anyone accuses someone of being a pedo, that person deserves to lose privacy and be treated as such without cause?

Do you know what Latitude's been doing? They read your private stories. The ones they said they wouldn't. They censor you now, read your stories, and will ban you for inane bullshit. You can cherry pick the discord for my responses all you want and circlejerk over how absolutely ass mad you are about it, but you don't understand the context and only want to feel good about yourselves while misunderstanding everything. Weak and sad.

I, along with literally everyone else at AID community, began spamming the WORST, ABSOLUTE HEINOUS SHIT at Latitude over AI dungeon. Why? Because if they're going to read it, we're going to fucking make them read it. That's how mad we were. Are we all pedos? Are you going to actually fucking believe every user of AID was a pedo? Are you actually going to believe I'm advocating publicly for pedophilia? No. I'm advocating for free speech and privacy in every form. Words on a screen that are for your eyes only, from your lewdest handholding imaginings to whatever fucked up furry shit I bet over half of you are secretly into and pearl clutch against in public are not illegal. Do I feel bad for striking back at a company that attacked first? Or should you feel bad for grandstanding around and acting like you know what the hell you're even crying about?

If it starts with one app everyone likes, it'll come for you. And when they come for you and call you a pedo for disagreeing with obscene censorship and privacy violations, I'm sure everyone will be completely understanding and not just assume you wanted to read fucked up pedo smut, like you're doing to us. And no, I've never done any kind of underaged creepy shit. Read the fucking discord yourselves.

Thanks for your time.
 

Book Thief

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Hey, Magnus from the OP here. How you doing? You guys like flinging shit, so let me set you straight.

I am not a pedo, kek. I hate that shit. You know what I hate? Extremely invasive privacy invasions and the destruction of free speech via kneejerk attacks like 'pedo'. Are you lot really going to sit here and tell me that any time anyone accuses someone of being a pedo, that person deserves to lose privacy and be treated as such without cause?

Do you know what Latitude's been doing? They read your private stories. The ones they said they wouldn't. They censor you now, read your stories, and will ban you for inane bullshit. You can cherry pick the discord for my responses all you want and circlejerk over how absolutely ass mad you are about it, but you don't understand the context and only want to feel good about yourselves while misunderstanding everything. Weak and sad.

I, along with literally everyone else at AID community, began spamming the WORST, ABSOLUTE HEINOUS SHIT at Latitude over AI dungeon. Why? Because if they're going to read it, we're going to fucking make them read it. That's how mad we were. Are we all pedos? Are you going to actually fucking believe every user of AID was a pedo? Are you actually going to believe I'm advocating publicly for pedophilia? No. I'm advocating for free speech and privacy in every form. Words on a screen that are for your eyes only, from your lewdest handholding imaginings to whatever fucked up furry shit I bet over half of you are secretly into and pearl clutch against in public are not illegal. Do I feel bad for striking back at a company that attacked first? Or should you feel bad for grandstanding around and acting like you know what the hell you're even crying about?

If it starts with one app everyone likes, it'll come for you. And when they come for you and call you a pedo for disagreeing with obscene censorship and privacy violations, I'm sure everyone will be completely understanding and not just assume you wanted to read fucked up pedo smut, like you're doing to us. And no, I've never done any kind of underaged creepy shit. Read the fucking discord yourselves.

Thanks for your time.
Opinions on KF on the subject seems to hit all over the spectrum from "Anyone who faps to loli or defends it is a pedo" to "I don't care, as long as they aren't touching real kids." The constant among all of us, however, is that pedophiles are complete shitheads that deserve to be hanged.

As for me, I dislike this choice because I recognize that this could be used as an avenue for squashing free speech. Sure, they're only trying to protect the community from something everyone agrees is bad now. If we give them the power to monitor what you're typing and ban you for committing wrong-think, they could just as easily tweak it so that, for example, if you tell the AI that you want to vote for Donald Trump in 2024, your story gets flagged and you get banned for "promoting hate speech," even though no one read what you typed besides you and the moderator.

Any time political correctness is used to impose on free speech, it always escalates. Forgive me if I don't feel like supporting a company that will have the power to monitor everything you say to a robot and decide whether or not your beliefs are the "correct" ones.
 

Irrational Exuberance

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Hey, Magnus from the OP here. How you doing? You guys like flinging shit, so let me set you straight.

I am not a pedo, kek. I hate that shit. You know what I hate? Extremely invasive privacy invasions and the destruction of free speech via kneejerk attacks like 'pedo'. Are you lot really going to sit here and tell me that any time anyone accuses someone of being a pedo, that person deserves to lose privacy and be treated as such without cause?

Do you know what Latitude's been doing? They read your private stories. The ones they said they wouldn't. They censor you now, read your stories, and will ban you for inane bullshit. You can cherry pick the discord for my responses all you want and circlejerk over how absolutely ass mad you are about it, but you don't understand the context and only want to feel good about yourselves while misunderstanding everything. Weak and sad.

I, along with literally everyone else at AID community, began spamming the WORST, ABSOLUTE HEINOUS SHIT at Latitude over AI dungeon. Why? Because if they're going to read it, we're going to fucking make them read it. That's how mad we were. Are we all pedos? Are you going to actually fucking believe every user of AID was a pedo? Are you actually going to believe I'm advocating publicly for pedophilia? No. I'm advocating for free speech and privacy in every form. Words on a screen that are for your eyes only, from your lewdest handholding imaginings to whatever fucked up furry shit I bet over half of you are secretly into and pearl clutch against in public are not illegal. Do I feel bad for striking back at a company that attacked first? Or should you feel bad for grandstanding around and acting like you know what the hell you're even crying about?

If it starts with one app everyone likes, it'll come for you. And when they come for you and call you a pedo for disagreeing with obscene censorship and privacy violations, I'm sure everyone will be completely understanding and not just assume you wanted to read fucked up pedo smut, like you're doing to us. And no, I've never done any kind of underaged creepy shit. Read the fucking discord yourselves.

Thanks for your time.
Thanks for coming and being pretty civil, at least so far. A lot of people here have shot from the hip over the whole "pedo" thing without giving it much thought, and I've made my own position clear enough back on page 5 of this thread. If you feel singled out...you aren't, even though one of your posts was highlighted. How much actual nuanced discussion depends on how much of a shit people actually give on the issue, so your results may vary.
 

Drain Todger

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I think Latitude are panicking at the possibility of Apple or someone else leaning on them if their customers' tastes came to light. They had a rather significant data breach due to their IT incompetence recently. Someone exploited a vulnerability in their API and wrote a script that pulled fuck-tons of people's private stories with no rate limits.


Oh wait. They cut the section on the data? It's gone forever! Just kidding. This is the internet. Nothing is gone forever.


A Surprising Observation 😳
Looking at the resulting aggregated data led to a very surprising observation. There were A LOT of lewd or otherwise nsfw user action fragments - way more than I had anticipated. As a bit of follow up analysis, I checked what percentage of adventures had explicitly lewd (18+) actions, and what percentage had nsfw actions.

The results are... surprising, to say the least. Out of the 188k adventures (and 3.9M user actions) analyzed:

87.3k (46.3% of all adventures sampled) are NSFW and...

59.1k (31.4%!!! of all adventures sampled) are explicit (18+)

Those, to me, are some insane numbers. Not only because, well, just the absolute sheer volume of the active player base that has chosen to interact with a state-of-the-art OpenAI language model by lewding it, but also because of just how sensitive the data is because of it. To reiterate, no, I will not be releasing any individual adventures in any capacity - they have long been deleted the second the statistics were gathered. However, this is very important data, both for the community and the AI Dungeon team. From these results, it's clear that a bad actor getting access to this data may as well be hacking something akin to an adult website, and can exploit all the fear, paranoia, and blackmail that comes with that. Hopefully not, but you can see why security is even more important than you might have initially thought.

The actual percentages result from the following procedure: Words that are only ever used in a lewd context being present in a user action result in the adventure being marked explicit and nsfw. Words that can go either way, but are still nsfw, mark the scenario as nsfw only. Therefore, the percentages presented here are actually the lower bounds, as I didn't check using an exhaustive list of words.

Almost a full third of people's scenarios in the game are pornographic in nature. This means that basically their entire subscriber base has probably lewded GPT-3 at least once, and probably more than once.

I detect delicious drama. :story:

Hey, Magnus from the OP here. How you doing? You guys like flinging shit, so let me set you straight.

I am not a pedo, kek. I hate that shit. You know what I hate? Extremely invasive privacy invasions and the destruction of free speech via kneejerk attacks like 'pedo'. Are you lot really going to sit here and tell me that any time anyone accuses someone of being a pedo, that person deserves to lose privacy and be treated as such without cause?

Do you know what Latitude's been doing? They read your private stories. The ones they said they wouldn't. They censor you now, read your stories, and will ban you for inane bullshit. You can cherry pick the discord for my responses all you want and circlejerk over how absolutely ass mad you are about it, but you don't understand the context and only want to feel good about yourselves while misunderstanding everything. Weak and sad.

I, along with literally everyone else at AID community, began spamming the WORST, ABSOLUTE HEINOUS SHIT at Latitude over AI dungeon. Why? Because if they're going to read it, we're going to fucking make them read it. That's how mad we were. Are we all pedos? Are you going to actually fucking believe every user of AID was a pedo? Are you actually going to believe I'm advocating publicly for pedophilia? No. I'm advocating for free speech and privacy in every form. Words on a screen that are for your eyes only, from your lewdest handholding imaginings to whatever fucked up furry shit I bet over half of you are secretly into and pearl clutch against in public are not illegal. Do I feel bad for striking back at a company that attacked first? Or should you feel bad for grandstanding around and acting like you know what the hell you're even crying about?

If it starts with one app everyone likes, it'll come for you. And when they come for you and call you a pedo for disagreeing with obscene censorship and privacy violations, I'm sure everyone will be completely understanding and not just assume you wanted to read fucked up pedo smut, like you're doing to us. And no, I've never done any kind of underaged creepy shit. Read the fucking discord yourselves.

Thanks for your time.

This is why cloud-based services that aren't open-source and peer-to-peer are a totally bullshit form of archival. Companies are starting to think they have right of final dispensation over all your private documents.

Take GDocs, for example. Lots of people use it as a Word substitute because it's free, but at any time, the Goog can make your documents fucking disappear right into thin air.


Google's abuse policy prohibits the posting of serious threats, needlessly graphic or violent content, hate speech, harassment, confidential information, pornography, and anything illegal including child exploitation and copyrighted content.

Today, however, multiple users believe that the content they were locked out of did not contain prohibited material. National Geographic reporter Rachael Bale, who was locked out of a draft of a story about wildlife crime, claims that nothing in her document violated Google's policies. "It's about legal, but ethically dubious activity," she tweeted.

A few years back, a bunch of people flipped out when they couldn't access their furry bestiality vore rape fics of a hunter and Bambi's mother that they thought were private but willingly typed into a web form on a web browser. :smug:

Anyway, use anything that's not local to your computer and under your complete fucking end-to-end control, and some corpo shithead will eventually get their knickers in a twist over how you are making use of their data center time.

There really ought to be a cloud service bill of rights to prevent this kind of shit, because corporations are capturing tons and tons of people's documents and private communiques and holding them hostage because their braindead users don't understand what cloud-based really means.
 

Ruber

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I wouldn't be surprised if AI Dungeon's extreme stance was mostly Open AI's doing. I was checking out a program called Shortly AI which also runs on GTP-3 and they also enforce a stupidly strict "toxicity filter" that I would trip on accident just writing basic sentences in the demo.
 

Staffy

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I wouldn't be surprised if AI Dungeon's extreme stance was mostly Open AI's doing. I was checking out a program called Shortly AI which also runs on GTP-3 and they also enforce a stupidly strict "toxicity filter" that I would trip on accident just writing basic sentences in the demo.
There are people on subreddit talking about that. Plenty of them had mentioned that Open AI doesn't have a hold over AID and they can operate with their own different terms.
 

Tism the Return

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Hey, Magnus from the OP here. How you doing? You guys like flinging shit, so let me set you straight.

I am not a pedo, kek. I hate that shit. You know what I hate? Extremely invasive privacy invasions and the destruction of free speech via kneejerk attacks like 'pedo'. Are you lot really going to sit here and tell me that any time anyone accuses someone of being a pedo, that person deserves to lose privacy and be treated as such without cause?

Do you know what Latitude's been doing? They read your private stories. The ones they said they wouldn't. They censor you now, read your stories, and will ban you for inane bullshit. You can cherry pick the discord for my responses all you want and circlejerk over how absolutely ass mad you are about it, but you don't understand the context and only want to feel good about yourselves while misunderstanding everything. Weak and sad.

I, along with literally everyone else at AID community, began spamming the WORST, ABSOLUTE HEINOUS SHIT at Latitude over AI dungeon. Why? Because if they're going to read it, we're going to fucking make them read it. That's how mad we were. Are we all pedos? Are you going to actually fucking believe every user of AID was a pedo? Are you actually going to believe I'm advocating publicly for pedophilia? No. I'm advocating for free speech and privacy in every form. Words on a screen that are for your eyes only, from your lewdest handholding imaginings to whatever fucked up furry shit I bet over half of you are secretly into and pearl clutch against in public are not illegal. Do I feel bad for striking back at a company that attacked first? Or should you feel bad for grandstanding around and acting like you know what the hell you're even crying about?

If it starts with one app everyone likes, it'll come for you. And when they come for you and call you a pedo for disagreeing with obscene censorship and privacy violations, I'm sure everyone will be completely understanding and not just assume you wanted to read fucked up pedo smut, like you're doing to us. And no, I've never done any kind of underaged creepy shit. Read the fucking discord yourselves.

Thanks for your time.

ok pedo
 

Forever Sunrise

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Hey, Magnus from the OP here. How you doing? You guys like flinging shit, so let me set you straight.

Loooool you willingly submitted your creepy child rape fanfiction to an open source online project that states directly and unambiguously that everything you submit to it will be analyzed and used in some way to improve the service and you're just absolutely ass-blasted to the fucking moon and back that you were too retarded to realize this meant you were inevitably going to be exposed.

Seriously how the actual fuck are you this stupid. How. I cannot fathom it. YOU. HAVE. NO. PRIVACY. ON. THE. INTERNET. READ THESE WORDS. ABSORB THEM. THEY ARE REALITY.

You did this entirely to yourselves, you absolute retard.
 

Forever Sunrise

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yawn m8 lrn to read

You evidently didn't read much when you first visited this site. Users here are generally very security-conscious and understand basic concepts like 'don't submit your wank material to an online company that stores all your data YOU MORONS' so you will get laughed at and mocked for failing to grasp this.

Plus, as has been clearly noted in the above posts this is not some bizarre random 'we must bow to the woke crowd' move. Tangible evidence proves that a gigantic amount of smut was being written using AID, and a substantial minority of it was pedo-focused. All of this was being fed directly into a learning machine and being injected into the work of other people who didn't want to read how you were turned on by dead gay muppet gangbangs or whatever other wretched, vile perversion you think ought to be perfectly acceptable to spew onto an open-source platform that, AGAIN, KEEPS ALL YOUR FUCKING DATA.

Congratulations, you played yourself. You not only played yourself, but you ruined the experience for the people who were actually using the program responsibly and NOT as an outlet for their pent-up sexual deviancy.
 

Ruber

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lol calm down. There are actual concerns about the filter put in place that affected everyone not just the pedophiles. For example, you can't roleplay as a superhero saving children from burning buildings or have a sidekick like Robin, you can't cuss, you can't eat watermelon on a summer day, you can't ride a horse into battle, etc. These are normal RPG scenarios that people can't even use anymore because of the hamfisted way Latitude decided to handle the pedo situation and they refuse to fix it.
 

Forever Sunrise

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I am not a pedo, kek. I hate that shit. You know what I hate? Extremely invasive privacy invasions and the destruction of free speech via kneejerk attacks like 'pedo'. Are you lot really going to sit here and tell me that any time anyone accuses someone of being a pedo, that person deserves to lose privacy and be treated as such without cause?

By the way, I was rather curious why you were so defensive about this. Then I found your Fanfiction.net account. Fascinating stuff. I particularly liked your Favorite Stories section, which includes multiple Mature-rated stories, and the one I glanced through was straight smut involving a shemale. You are projecting so fucking hard right now, you worthless piece of pedo trash.
 

Irrational Exuberance

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By the way, I was rather curious why you were so defensive about this. Then I found your Fanfiction.net account. Fascinating stuff. I particularly liked your Favorite Stories section, which includes multiple Mature-rated stories, and the one I glanced through was straight smut involving a shemale. You are projecting so fucking hard right now, you worthless piece of pedo trash.
Either get enough together to float something in the Prospering Grounds or stop slinging whatever handfuls of shit you can find at his reputation, dude.
 

magnymagic

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By the way, I was rather curious why you were so defensive about this. Then I found your Fanfiction.net account. Fascinating stuff. I particularly liked your Favorite Stories section, which includes multiple Mature-rated stories, and the one I glanced through was straight smut involving a shemale. You are projecting so fucking hard right now, you worthless piece of pedo trash.
do you know what 'magnymagic' is from, and can you imagine more than one person using it?

also lol you went and read shemale porn looking for dirt on me, you are the saddest slug here
 
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