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Alex Rosen (AKA Chet Goldstein)Crikey! It looks like we've stumbled upon some Kiwis in the wild, how would you like to join me on a safari? The internet is a dangerous place and we're going to track some dangerous prey. These people think they're the apex predators of the world, a Predator Poacher, if you will. These people are dangerous lolcows because they hide their narcisism and destructive behaviors behind "catching predators." This in itself is usually counterproductive. For those of you looking to inform yourselves about the controversy surrounding pedo-hunting before continuing, I respect that and would provide you this (archive) article. Chet is quoted (real name Alex) and will be referenced lightly throughout the OP.
Be warned: This thread does discuss pedophilia, child abuse, and children being placed in harms way by Alex. You're going to be upset.
One last note, Please archive everything relating to Predator Poachers and their community. Youtube has been deleting all of their content for harassment and it's becoming difficult to find older content. This OP will try to contextualize Chet and his group but some videos I would prefer to show are currently lost. After the recent EDP445 controversy I suspect more will be purged. Anyways, let's begin.
Edit: One other quick note, I have heard rumors that Alex Rosen has had a relationship with a minor. I don't have any evidence of this, and given the context of this OP I will not be wasting time on these theories unless they're more substantiated.
The Real Thicc Shady
Alex Rosen, AKA Chet Goldstein, is the founder of Predator Poachers. He's ostensibly using this to launch his career into more mainstream avenues. His internet presence takes many forms, but many videos have been scrubbed from the platform - hence the new alias Chet Goldstein. Youtube is his bread and butter right now, if he gets banned he'll improvise, adapt, and overcome. How would one describe him? I'd prefer to have him describe himself in the article linked in the intro,
Sounds like something a former college football oaf might do. You might wonder what's wrong with luring in a suspected pedo and proceeding to berate them on camera for views. I can't speak for non-US countries, but there's a little thing called entrapment. Law enforcement and civilians (to different degrees based on the state) cannot simply entice people to commit a crime for the purposes of reporting them. Every state is a little different with regards for what classifies as "child endangerment", "solicitation", etc. If you're luring in predators with a plant, there are ways these things must be handled to secure a prosecution. If these stings are not handled appropriately and professionally, you will cause a man to go free to commit crimes another day. These grifters don't understand that and they don't care. It's not about catching predators. It's about scaring them for a video and getting views. Here (archive) is an article about Predator Poachers fucking up a case exactly like this."I literally just yell in someone’s face and make them feel shitty.”
Schaub said a child enticement charge requires the victim be 16 or younger when an electronic device is used. An exception is allowed when a law enforcement officer portrays an underage participant. But there is no exception in state statute for when someone else portrays an underage participant.
Schaub said entrapment can be used as a defense in court, “which means that the state would have to prove that there was no entrapment, if there were even slight evidence that happened.”
While he did not comment on whether the actions on the videos could be deemed entrapment, Schaub said the confrontation between the Predator Poachers leader and the 45-year-old man “was not at all done professionally as I would expect a law enforcement officer would do.”
Police became involved after the confrontation, he said, and “there is not a lot that police can do to sanitize a bad, bad investigation from a legal perspective.”
In some instances, TV shows and media outlets have gotten involved in targeting criminal suspects. But Schaub said that in those instances, producers and others work with law enforcement to conduct their investigations rather than conducting their own.
If you're reading this thread in current year, you're probably familiar with this sting on EDP445
Famous Youtuber Edp445 Caught Meeting 13 Y / O Girl ft
EDP445 could one day go to jail, but it will not be because of this video. It looks bad, but this will be considered entrapment. Rosen did not cooperate with law enforcement, lawyers were not consulted, and he has never demonstrated a knowledge of the law surrounding entrapment and solicitation of underage persons. It will not be admissable in court and I would bet police will not look into this. It sucks but that's how the world works. Ask the Zoosadists.
This is rule #1 of the Pedophile Poacher community. Get views, get paid. Pedos are incidental in this gig, and outside of the praise they receive for "catching" them, they really don't care. Here is a fellow pedo hunter and minor lolcow, Eric Kanevsky, air his dirty laundry with Alex Rosen.“The big part of making these videos is making them entertaining,” Rosen, a recent college dropout and part-time delivery driver, told me. “Like, ‘What’s Alex gonna say next?’ It sucks that they have to be entertainment—but we have to get views.”
GUY WHO CAUGHT EDP445 - CHET GOLDSTEIN - MY EXPERIENCE WITH HIM
At minute 3:55 he explicitly says, "We all do this because it gets views." He shows how Alex is in it solely for the money while self-reporting himself as a grifter as well. Every pedo hunting group hates the other and tries to out-do the competition. It's almost as if it's not about catching criminals or doing something positive with your life at all.
Here's a video of him catching a suspected pedo, and a relevant news article (Credit and more info found here)
Notice how in the very beginning he mentioned his video getting removed because they didn't conceal the suspect's identity. He reuploaded the video with the man's face exposed briefly before blurring it. He viewed this as a fair comrpomise because, "People need to see this guy and teach him a lesson." This is not how you catch a pedophile.
Anyways, here is a Twitter thread with alot of the cringe content he's uploaded over the years. It's pretty funny.
Here's Bowblax going through the Twitter thread and other cringe
Twitter VS Chet Goldstein (EDP445 Predator Poachers)
The videos show him making cringe jokes about racism and child sex. Maybe not the most appropriate mentality to have when you're busting pedos
I'm not sure what the "right mentality" is, considering I haven't caught any pedos. I don't think it's any of these, however.
The video below is of his crew (illegally) detaining a suspect with a firearm, then failing and letting him escape
predator poachers illegal detainment/false imprisonment in frisco, tx
Here's a video compilation of Alex Rosen using actual minors to lure in pedophiles. This is real, it is also by his own admission in the video. He has willingly and knowingly advertised and placed minors in close proximity to pedophiles with no realistic plan to ensure their safety - not that you realistically could.
compilation of minor used in person (endangerment) for predator poachers
Do real pedo hunters endanger children? In case there's some wacko reading this who thinks this video is out of context or those aren't real children, here's a video of Alex recognizing his minor's actions and thanking them.
alex gives a shoutout to his minor decoys
As long as no minors got hurt I guess it's fine then, right?
Oh right, fucko, a minor DID get assaulted
predator poachers stinghouse 2: minor admits to being assaulted
Predator Poachers AKA Mob Justice LLC
Rosen is the founder of Predator Poachers, but it's not a small singular entity. It has several chapter spread throughout the country.
Here's the Massachusetts chapter catching the wrong guy who's tweaking and then shares the suspected pedo's ID with the tweaker - hoping he gets smashed on the street
Predator Poachers Massachusetts Catches Wrong Guy Live Stream
He encourages people to take action across the world, no matter how young. Here's a young upstart trying to found a Washington chapter
Alex inspires people to risk their lives in order to join the cause.
Many of these videos come from this channel dedicated to uploading illegal and/or fucked up things Alex does.
One last video of Alex straight up threatening to call the cops on someone unless he can beat the fuck out of them, then he turns into a pussy after he does it and realizes he might be in trouble now
predator poachers alex assaults someone and then gets scared
He tells this guy he's going to "let him go" because he "seems remorseful." Probably not because his footage includes him assaulting this guy. Alex then says, "You wouldn't want your whole life ruined because of one mistake you made today. I wouldn't like that to happen to me, obviously." Draw your own conclusions from this farce of a man's actions.
So let's say you're convinced of this cause and want to learn more? Let's check out his website.
The front page of his website is six payment plans, including an $1,800 option that will have them come to your city and
This could be said about most people in the pedo hunter community, but Alex Rosen is a grifter who profits off exploiting children. He hides under the auspice of hunting predators, but he deliberately places children in danger. He does not take the necessary steps to ensure these offenders can be tried and imprisoned. Police have routinely asked him to stop this activity. He assaults people, falsely accuses people as being pedophiles, and just has a generally Lolcow personality. This guy unironically ruins people's lives, some innocent, and some are children.
Thank you for joining me on this journey. Please archive everything, it's not just Alex but all pedo hunters get routinely scrubbed by Youtube for harassment claims.
I don't have any social media to post since they've all been banned
Youtube as of now
Credits: This thread OP by Cardenio