Alexander "Slavros" Mukhitdinov / Iron March / IronMarch.org

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According to /pol/, word has it the guys who run Fascist Forge put the entire backup in their mega.nz folder without any password protection, which means anyone could download the contents. No idea if this is true, but if those claims have any veracity, that means they put their entire site out in the open without thinking of the consequences.
 

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According to /pol/, word has it the guys who run Fascist Forge put the entire backup in their mega.nz folder without any password protection, which means anyone could download the contents. No idea if this is true, but if those claims have any veracity, that means they put their entire site out in the open without thinking of the consequences.

So this wasn't even some super duper glow in the dark operation but just pure Slavic stupidity?
 

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Ex-ironlarp user here. The "leaks" are not a hack or something. One of the admins (ben I think) took a snap of the whole database before the website shut down and backed it up along side several hundred gigabytes of data from the Fascist Alma Matter website and a few other places. These were an attempt to archive Ironmarch and what it was about.

A journalist has been emailing every single fucking user from the site trying to get any juicy tidbits she can. I find this rather annoying honestly. Also someone has been signing up every single user on the list for a jewish newletter, which is kind of humorous.
 

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Ex-ironlarp user here. The "leaks" are not a hack or something. One of the admins (ben I think) took a snap of the whole database before the website shut down and backed it up along side several hundred gigabytes of data from the Fascist Alma Matter website and a few other places. These were an attempt to archive Ironmarch and what it was about.

A journalist has been emailing every single fucking user from the site trying to get any juicy tidbits she can. I find this rather annoying honestly. Also someone has been signing up every single user on the list for a jewish newletter, which is kind of humorous.
I guess you can't blame the journalist for trying to get a hold of everybody on the list, she's just doing her job (which is being an asshole). Plus if you're going to say dumb shit online, it's best to do so in a way that doesn't tie back to you in any meaningful way.
 
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I guess you can't blame the journalist for trying to get a hold of everybody on the list, she's just doing her job (which is being an asshole). Plus if you're going to say dumb shit online, it's best to do so in a way that doesn't tie back to you in any meaningful way.
I never posted anything to insane. I don't think there is anything I would not be willing to own up to in there. At the very worst its cringy. I was always pretty paranoid and went to great lengths making sure identities were not connected up.

As for the journalist, this is not typical behavior for leak reporting. Generally leaks are considered sensitive information, like medical records or PII. You don't go trying to post it everywhere. If memory serves me correct there are some Associated Press Standards documents that discuss how to deal with leaked data propperly, and this is the worst way possible. I wouldn't be paticularly assmad if it wasn't for the password hashes stored in there. They are bcrypt I am pretty sure, so there is nothing to worry about, but I still find it personally disgusting.

I noticed a lot of you guys were looking into Slavros' ex-egf. If you want some truly insane shit to look into, the first AW shooter (Devon Arthurs) was the user TheWeissewolfe (id:9304). Slavros might be an ultra-retard, but he was the only person to predict that weisse would go insane and possibly kill people. Everyone thought that Weisse's conversion to Islam was a joke taken way to far. Slavros took great lengths to isolate him away from power and warn people that he was not mentally sound. Even I didn't believe Slavros, but he was right.
 

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According to /pol/, word has it the guys who run Fascist Forge put the entire backup in their mega.nz folder without any password protection, which means anyone could download the contents. No idea if this is true, but if those claims have any veracity, that means they put their entire site out in the open without thinking of the consequences.
So this wasn't even some super duper glow in the dark operation but just pure Slavic stupidity?
Ex-ironlarp user here. The "leaks" are not a hack or something. One of the admins (ben I think) took a snap of the whole database before the website shut down and backed it up along side several hundred gigabytes of data from the Fascist Alma Matter website and a few other places. These were an attempt to archive Ironmarch and what it was about.

A journalist has been emailing every single fucking user from the site trying to get any juicy tidbits she can. I find this rather annoying honestly. Also someone has been signing up every single user on the list for a jewish newletter, which is kind of humorous.
Indeed, it all pans out. It seems Fascist Forge was responsible for putting IronMarch's SQL out in the open via a mega.nz link along with all their other material. Keep in mind the mega.nz link is now dead, but this appears to be the source of the leak:
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You utter fucking morons.
 

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Slavros is still alive, but no longer active in internet politics:

In 2011, an English-language forum called IronMarch.org appeared online. Within a few years, it had become what the British tabloid The Sun called “Facebook for Nazis.” The forum’s users organized a number of neo-Nazi groups, including the Atomwaffen Division in the U.S. and the Antipodean Resistance in Australia. Those groups then committed five murders in the United States, including that of a 19-year-old gay and Jewish university student, and attempted to carry out a terrorist attack in Canada. The founder of Iron March wrote under the username Alexander Slavros. In reality, he is Alisher Mukhitdinov. In 2017, both Mukhitdinov and his forum inexplicably disappeared from the Internet. In a new report, the BBC Russian Service reveals that he is still living under the radar in a pre-fabricated apartment block in southwest Moscow.

Alisher Mukhitdinov is descended from an influential Uzbek family. Two sources who have access to personal information databases told the BBC that Nuritdin Mukhitdinov, a close relative on Alisher’s father’s side, fought in the Battle of Stalingrad and later led the Uzbek government under Khrushchev. He then served as a member of the Presidium of the Communist Party of the USSR (the predecessor to the Politburo) and the USSR’s ambassador to Syria. Alisher Mukhitdinov’s parents met in the 1980s while they were students at the Moscow State Institute of International Relations (MGIMO), an institution still known for its ties to security agencies. In the 1990s, they divorced. Mukhitdinov’s mother worked as a sports journalist, and his father was a businessman, a MGIMO sponsor, and the CEO of a charitable foundation serving those who migrate to Russia looking for work.

Mukhitdinov studied psychology at Moscow State University (MGU) before transferring to the political science department. However, he was expelled for missing a history exam. He tried to challenge the expulsion in court, arguing that he had missed the test because of a bureaucratic error, but he lost his case. The young man then continued his undergraduate degree at MGIMO’s political science department. Yevgenia Akulina, a former classmate, described Mukhitdinov to the BBC as a friendly, erudite, and unobtrusive person.

As a student, Mukhitdinov only wore black clothing, “typically a tactical jumpsuit with about 15 pockets, like [pundit Anatoly] Wasserman’s,” one of his classmates said on condition of anonymity. Akulina added that Mukhitdinov sometimes wore a Bolshevichek brand suit to express his patriotism. In photographs that have surfaced on English-language neo-Nazi forums since, Mukhitdinov wears a military jumpsuit and a balaclava mask. He said he wears military-style clothing in part out of respect for his descendents who fought for the Soviet Union.

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Alisher Mukhitdinov loved Stalin, hated Trotsky, and called himself “half Russian”
“Back then, there was no fascism, at least not publicly. He called himself a metanationalist [the BBC does not explain this term]. After all, he is Alisher Mukhitdinov,” the young man’s anonymous classmate said, referring to the name’s recognizably Central Asian etymology. “He has dark skin, and his face isn’t really Russian. It was obvious that he couldn’t have anything to do with Russian Nazis. And what Americans call a white ethnostate wouldn’t take Alisher from the get-go. He understood that perfectly, so he came up with his own ideology.” Later on, Mukhitdinov himself would write on IronMarch, “I’m half Russian, so even under the Nuremberg [race] laws, I’m okay.”

By the time he started studying at MGIMO, Mukhitdinov had started calling himself Alexander Slavros online, and he had set up a website called Slavros.org where he uploaded detailed essays on his metanationalist ideology. Mukhitdinov studied writings by Russian and Italian nationalists and openly identified as a Stalinist: He signed his blog posts “Glory to Russia, Glory to Stalin.” He also publicly opposed Trotskyism, and for two years in a row, he marked the anniversary of Leon Trotsky’s assassination by destroying a papier-mâché bust of the revolutionary theorist on video and showing the results to his classmates. The nickname Slavros itself combines the root syllable of both “Slavic” and “glory” with the root for “Russian.”

Mukhitdinov created an “Iron Russian Youth Movement” and made himself its “autocrat”
In 2010, Mukhitdinov joined in the December protests on Manezhnaya Square and posted a video on his YouTube channel about how people had thrown flares and pieces of rebar at police. Soon afterward, he published a 100-page manifesto titled “The Iron Russian Youth Movement” (DRZhM) in which he wrote, “Ever since I was a child, I knew I was a Russian, and I felt patriotic, nationalistic sentiments as well as an interest in politics. I followed a path from communism to Stalinism, and [my] nationalism rose steadily all the while.” The word “Russian,” or “Russky,” in the manifesto refers to Slavic Russian ethnicity rather than citizenship or residency, and while it is not capitalized in standard Russian, Mukhitdinov did capitalize it in his writing.

Elsewhere in the manifesto, Mukhitdinov anointed himself the “autocrat” and “absolute leader” of DRZhM and drew up a hierarchy for the group that included “knights,” “warriors,” and “war chiefs.” DRZhM members were to wear a uniform, and the dress code for the “female corps” included a traditional Russian blouse and a floor-length skirt. Mukhitdinov commissioned a Mexican artist with the username acfierro to design the planned uniforms. The BBC noted that while quotes from Mukhitdinov’s manifesto occasionally crop up in nationalist groups on the social media site VKontakte, he remains an obscure figure to most of the Russian far right.

IronMarch’s founder openly called himself a fascist, and the forum’s masthead ultimately came to include the words “Jews,” “ovens,” and “race war”
The IronMarch forum first appeared in 2011. One former participant whom the BBC did not name said the website wasn’t quite so fascist at first: “The main idea was to overturn the culture of political correctness. It was a refuge for people who couldn’t express themselves in other places. In the early years, Alexander [Slavros] didn’t ban people with different ideas. He was interested in them himself.” Later on, Slavros began identifying openly as a fascist and a racist. By the time IronMarch was shut down, its masthead included the words “Jews,” “ovens,” and “race war.”

An Atomwaffen Division flyer found on May 1, 2018.

The forum’s users worshipped Charles Manson, Norwegian terrorist Anders Breivik, the perpetrators of the Columbine shooting, and other mass murderers, asserting that they had brought the destruction of the world as we know it closer to reality. Slavros worked to popularize the ideas of American neo-Nazi James Mason, who argues that the closer the contemporary world is to complete destruction, the better the situation will be for fascists. Researchers from the Southern Poverty Law Center found that Slavros promoted Mason’s book SIEGE, which was first published as a newsletter between 1980 and 1986, and helped make it “a racist Internet phenomenon.”


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Inspired by Mason’s ideas, Slavros posted several essay collections online that perpetuated a similar worldview. According to the BBC, the neo-Nazi activist made significant efforts to ensure that the production value of each collection mirrored that of a legitimate publication. The essays soon reached beyond IronMarch; they were posted on anonymous fascist imageboards and Telegram channels as well as Fascist Forge. That forum is considered to be IronMarch’s successor; it features an entire section devoted to Alexander Slavros.

IronMarch has since shut down without explanation, but its leader still lives in Moscow
In November 2017, IronMarch suddenly stopped operating, as did an online magazine called Rope Culture that was also founded by Slavros. The two websites were hosted separately, which led users to suspect that they had not been shut down from outside but rather by their owner himself. Some ultra-right activists said they suspected that Slavros had acted under pressure from the Russian government. As one rumor had it, Slavros had angered the Federal Security Service (FSB) by raising money for the Ukrainian Azov battalion, which is known for its neo-Nazi ties. However, the BBC could not find evidence that any such fundraising took place. Yet other followers claimed that hackers had attacked the forum and forced it to close.

The BBC was unable to determine with certainty why IronMarch shut down, but its journalists did discover that Alisher Mukhitdinov still lives in Moscow. He has a three-room apartment in the city’s southwest that he inherited from his mother. Mukhitdinov is not wanted by any Russian law enforcement agencies, and he uses a cell phone, but he declined to speak with the BBC, which was unable to discover how the neo-Nazi leader now spends his time. Yevgenia Akulina, Mukhitdinov’s former classmate, told journalists that her acquaintance once said he would like to work as a translator for films and TV shows.

Investigation by Andrey Soshnikov for the BBC Russian Service

Summary by Olga Korelina

Translation by Hilah Kohen
 

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It's strange seeing a BBC article on a guy who I used to see busily churning out propaganda posters on DeviantART.
That explains the edgy aesthetic.

He's resurfaced again on Telegram.

 

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I've been seeing fishy ex-Ironmarch testimonies like these on Antifa sites and this account. In most of them the ex-IMer was just a clueless edgy deviantart teen who left after a few months once they realized what was going on (or better yet realized his true destiny was as a tranny faggot commie, take that fash!)...but also somehow gained a complex adult understanding of fascist ideology, recruitment tactics, and movement figures?

Doesn't pass the smell test. If these aren't made up entirely, which IMO they are, the ex-IMers are really downplaying how much they were involved.
 

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I've been seeing fishy ex-Ironmarch testimonies like these on Antifa sites and this account. In most of them the ex-IMer was just a clueless edgy deviantart teen who left after a few months once they realized what was going on (or better yet realized his true destiny was as a tranny faggot commie, take that fash!)...but also somehow gained a complex adult understanding of fascist ideology, recruitment tactics, and movement figures?

Doesn't pass the smell test. If these aren't made up entirely, which IMO they are, the ex-IMers are really downplaying how much they were involved.
I would earmark a few of these as completely false. The rest are just people who posted for a day and left, and now tout themselves as "formers" that are coming forward with "their story" of how they spent years being "radicalized online". I'd presume for attention mostly.

Mystery user A (https://archive.md/QU09T):
“My involvement on Ironmarch ended just as quickly as it began. Per the site’s rules, my first post was an introduction thread for myself. I was forthright and honest, including why I was there and some little personal details to let the other members get to know me. Based on the far-right propaganda I’d encountered up to then, I had somehow led myself to believe that fascists were really a misunderstood and respectful group. I realize how ridiculous this sounds now, but this is how I thought at the time. Once I had introduced myself, other members of the forum were downright hostile toward me. I realized I had been wrong about them, and that it was a mistake to expect anything other than hate from them.
Basically what happened here is he tried to join. People realized that he was some kid who didn't belong on the forums, and probably should have been hanging with friends/having a normal life. Kids regularly showed up, and we regularly showed them the door. I think this is an aspect of things people really don't get, Ironmarch really didn't do recruitment. In fact they had systems set up to discourage people from even joining. At one point later on, you had to take a fucking quiz to make sure you weren't some dumb idiot that happened onto the place.

McDago (https://archive.md/LwETn):
The seriousness of these ideas never really hit me until one day I logged on to hear that one user (Devon Arthurs) killed two of his roommates and that the fourth one was arrested with the ingredients to make a bomb. It finally hit me that the weird kid who LARPed as an ISIS supporter and played Minecraft actually acted out on the things constantly being said. It was at that moment I realized, Communists weren't the threat, Black people weren't the threat, Jews weren't the threat, Muslims weren't the threat: Fascism and the group of malcontent and angry Nazis on the internet were. I wish that revelation had been enough to shake me awake from all those “redpills” but all it made me do was delete my account cut contact with them and step down a level to be a lonely internet racist. I'd see more acts of violence carried out by White supremacists such as the murder of Blaze Bernstein or the Christchurch killings and think it was bad and “counterproductive,” but I hadn't yet come to see the value of each life lost because of these hateful acts.
His description of his relationship to the forum is downright false. He portrays himself as a long time member of the forum, however after a brief check of the db McDago only ever made two posts and spent at most a few weeks on the forum before never logging in again. This is actually

Vanguard (http://archive.md/pWbZm):
When I was 13 or 14 years old, I had an account on the site, used it for a few months and then went inactive. Since people here (and most well-adjusted people, I’d wager) probably have trouble understanding how a middle schooler might get dragged into the horrific world of online neo-fascists, I thought I’d share my own experience. Hopefully we can find some lessons in terms of how to prevent radicalization of youth.
Having talked to Vanguard, I know for a fact that this is made up. Vanguard was a mid 20's military veteran who worked in IT. He was a long time member of the forum, having come in from I3PF. He was not a "few month user" having been on a lot for about 2-3 years in the early days.

Nova Prospekt (http://archive.ph/TfiZ2):
I'm not even going to go into detail on this one, he is yet another one month user who wanted to insert a hot take to cover their ass. Ill take a stab at one thing here though, he is likely a disgruntled tumblrite. Ironmarch was actually set up to keep kids who simply liked the aesthetics of fascism (tumblerites and deviants people) out. Two reasons behind this: A) IM, up until the height of AW's notoriety, was mostly people talking philosophy. Granted, I'd argue only two people actually knew their shit, but there was at least an attempt to have serious talk. B) Contrary to what the media might claim, a lot of people on Ironmarch realized dumb kids would come to the forum and potentially fuck up their lives. The forum was not about to tolerate them. There is a certain egf of papa slav's discussed here a lot. She is a great example of what IM didn't want. And maybe with a certain hint of irony, that is exactly who the forum attracted down to its original conception.

Another anonymous user (https://archive.md/Nmgm5):
In late 2018 I hooked up with IE. I felt disenfranchised and alone. IE was presenting itself as a place for people like me to find a home. I applied and went through the on boarding process. I was a right leaning Libertarian with a curious outlook and yearning to belong. I had grown accustomed to race realism concepts that were talked about by people such as Roosh V. I saw no harm at the time. I now see the harm.
I got involved in their Discord group. Some of the perspectives of some of the members were shameful and embarrassing. There was a strange obsession with Jewish people and POC. I indulged due to curiosity. I found myself being influenced to think of Jews and POC as “others”.
This guy doesn't even talk about Ironmarch. Just IE. Also this is pretty easy to realize as false, at this time Roosh V was still a pickup artist, and actually in a pitfight with /pol/ where he actively tried to dunk on "race realist concepts" as described above. In fact, he had several posts actively encouraging racemixing right front and center on his blog in the era, so I highly doubt the claims made above. Someone who is obviously faking could only have written this, because Roosh has pretty much memoryholed all of his former views. Very likely someone looking back and fabricating things
Also, while I was never an IE member, I knew their modus operandi pretty well. They wouldn't have let some dumb idiot in, as described above, and then tried to "radicalize him through normalization." To join IE you would have had to have been there from the start. Also 90% of the members were fratboys lmao.


Just like a weird side note I guess: Looking back, I should have listened to Slavros more. Sure hes a fucking idiot, but he is like a 2-3 time school shooting predictor at this point. Someone on the FBI anti-terror team should give him a fucking job.
 

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Excuse my habit of necro'ing threads

I would earmark a few of these as completely false. The rest are just people who posted for a day and left, and now tout themselves as "formers" that are coming forward with "their story" of how they spent years being "radicalized online". I'd presume for attention mostly.

Mystery user A (https://archive.md/QU09T):

Basically what happened here is he tried to join. People realized that he was some kid who didn't belong on the forums, and probably should have been hanging with friends/having a normal life. Kids regularly showed up, and we regularly showed them the door. I think this is an aspect of things people really don't get, Ironmarch really didn't do recruitment. In fact they had systems set up to discourage people from even joining. At one point later on, you had to take a fucking quiz to make sure you weren't some dumb idiot that happened onto the place.

McDago (https://archive.md/LwETn):

His description of his relationship to the forum is downright false. He portrays himself as a long time member of the forum, however after a brief check of the db McDago only ever made two posts and spent at most a few weeks on the forum before never logging in again. This is actually

Vanguard (http://archive.md/pWbZm):

Having talked to Vanguard, I know for a fact that this is made up. Vanguard was a mid 20's military veteran who worked in IT. He was a long time member of the forum, having come in from I3PF. He was not a "few month user" having been on a lot for about 2-3 years in the early days.

Nova Prospekt (http://archive.ph/TfiZ2):
I'm not even going to go into detail on this one, he is yet another one month user who wanted to insert a hot take to cover their ass. Ill take a stab at one thing here though, he is likely a disgruntled tumblrite. Ironmarch was actually set up to keep kids who simply liked the aesthetics of fascism (tumblerites and deviants people) out. Two reasons behind this: A) IM, up until the height of AW's notoriety, was mostly people talking philosophy. Granted, I'd argue only two people actually knew their shit, but there was at least an attempt to have serious talk. B) Contrary to what the media might claim, a lot of people on Ironmarch realized dumb kids would come to the forum and potentially fuck up their lives. The forum was not about to tolerate them. There is a certain egf of papa slav's discussed here a lot. She is a great example of what IM didn't want. And maybe with a certain hint of irony, that is exactly who the forum attracted down to its original conception.

Another anonymous user (https://archive.md/Nmgm5):


This guy doesn't even talk about Ironmarch. Just IE. Also this is pretty easy to realize as false, at this time Roosh V was still a pickup artist, and actually in a pitfight with /pol/ where he actively tried to dunk on "race realist concepts" as described above. In fact, he had several posts actively encouraging racemixing right front and center on his blog in the era, so I highly doubt the claims made above. Someone who is obviously faking could only have written this, because Roosh has pretty much memoryholed all of his former views. Very likely someone looking back and fabricating things
Also, while I was never an IE member, I knew their modus operandi pretty well. They wouldn't have let some dumb idiot in, as described above, and then tried to "radicalize him through normalization." To join IE you would have had to have been there from the start. Also 90% of the members were fratboys lmao.


Just like a weird side note I guess: Looking back, I should have listened to Slavros more. Sure hes a fucking idiot, but he is like a 2-3 time school shooting predictor at this point. Someone on the FBI anti-terror team should give him a fucking job.

Thanks for the info...guess my hunch was correct. Slavros was surprisingly smart there, if the organizers of UtR followed his philosophy maybe James Fields wouldn't be rotting in a cell (he shouldn't have gone away for self-defense, but he also shouldn't have been there in the first place). What was Lindsay like on the forums, if you don't mind me asking?
 

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@junkrunner Thanks for... standing up for the integrity of your fucking weird Nazi LARP forums, I guess?

Like, I don't doubt a bunch of former members would lie about the extent of their involvement for clout and all, but... the forum's premise was fucked from the start. Of course it's going to attract a bunch of flunkies and nutjobs. I just imagine the people who left and are regretful would probably prefer not to talk about it.