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Gordon Cole

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So, the first trailer for Alien: Covenant came out tonight. Any thoughts on this or the Alien series in general?
 

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prometheus was shit. it was the lost of the alien franchise.

"movies make me want to be dead"
 

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prometheus was shit. it was the lost of the alien franchise.

"movies make me want to be dead"

Were the characters ever so brain-dead in Lost?

"I, the guy with the map, got us lost!"

"Imma touch the clearly hostile penis snake!"

"Oh no, I am incapable of changing direction when I run!"
 

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Is there an HD version of the theatrical edit of Aliens? I like the extra crap but there's something to be said for the tighter pacing.
 

CleverJokeHere

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Were the characters ever so brain-dead in Lost?

"I, the guy with the map, got us lost!"

"Imma touch the clearly hostile penis snake!"

"Oh no, I am incapable of changing direction when I run!"

Did map guy even have the map? I know he provided the little drone that created it but I thought that was back on the Prometheus, which is why Cool Black Captain was giving the team directions/in contact with them. Don't know why he wouldn't have a copy of the map, but you could chock that up to a technical oversight instead of characters being dumb. Agree on the other two though.

Anyway, I was taking more about the air of pretentious mystery that went nowhere and the shallow pontificating than characters being stupid.
 

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I love the Alien franchise, but just form the previews it looks like it's trying to just be Alien again and not nave any real connection to the broader story they were trying to draw.

Also, every time I see Prometheus I hate it more.
 

Gordon Cole

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Anyway, I was taking more about the air of pretentious mystery that went nowhere and the shallow pontificating than characters being stupid.
I remember that Ridley Scott said he wanted to go with Lindelof's plans of distancing the Prometheus movies further from the main Alien mythos. Then presumably someone at 20th Century Fox went "No, you're not." Hence Covenant ditching Lindelof and skewing closer to the original series.
 

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So, the first trailer for Alien: Covenant came out tonight. Any thoughts on this or the Alien series in general?

The first is still the best as a horror movie.

The second is still the best as an action movie.

I could live without any of the others ones tbh, though the getting raped and murdered in space prison was sort of okay, I guess, and the one by the City of Lost Children guy was sort of slick looking but made very little sense and had very little connection to the rest of them. I haven't seen Prometheus because I just didn't really give a shit about it.
 

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Alien is one of the best horror films ever made. Aliens is one of the best action movies ever made. Both are two of the greatest sci-fi films of all time.

I can do without the rest. Didn't like 3, never saw Ressurection, and don't remember Prometheus beyond it being a potentially interesting take on the mythos squandered by terrible execution.

With Covenant, I just hope it doesn't completely ignore the previous film and ties up some loose ends. As of now, I don't feel strongly about it one way or another, although it does look visually interesting.
 

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Resurrection is an object lesson that two things that are generally good aren't always good together. It was an alien movie done by joss Wheaton and his generally goofy tone did not mesh with the alien mythology at all.

Three would have been down right good if they finished the special effects, but all the alternative scripts that were Ripley & Hicks team up movies would have been better. HICKS WAS a great character and not bringing him back was a stupid mistake.
 

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Resurrection is an object lesson that two things that are generally good aren't always good together. It was an alien movie done by joss Wheaton and his generally goofy tone did not mesh with the alien mythology at all.

Three would have been down right good if they finished the special effects, but all the alternative scripts that were Ripley & Hicks team up movies would have been better. HICKS WAS a great character and not bringing him back was a stupid mistake.

Resurrection suffered from the fact the director couldn't speak English and Joss and the cast couldn't speak French. They had to communicate through storyboards. Joss thought he was writing a parody.
 

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Aliens? In an Alien movie? What the fuck is this shit give me more tall bald white people in diapers and Noomi Rapace's stomach undulating with some half bakeed, hollow philosophy about Ebola's place in God's web fam.
 
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I'm looking forward to it because I love the Xenomorph and would watch anything as long as the Xenomorph was in it. I sat through both Alien vs Predators with a big smile on my stupid face. I would watch the Xenomorph read a phone book for the running time of the movie. I may be Xeno-kin. Pronouns are xen/xer/xenoself.

I have nothing constructive to add to this thread, just felt like getting that out there.
 

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Aliens? In an Alien movie? What the fuck is this shit give me more tall bald white people in diapers and Noomi Rapace's stomach undulating with some half bakeed, hollow philosophy about Ebola's place in God's web fam.
Well I saw a hooded thing and looks like they're doing that Beluga morph thing that was in one of the older Prometheus drafts. So maybe you'll get some tall bald men... I hope it's that rather than creationist scientist and Michael Fassbender's head. Second trailer is a sore sight better than the original though, since it explains why the planet is nice and all and what the couples thing was for.

I actually thought Alien3 was good, well once you get over the thing it does to make Aliens so sad. It fit the world pretty well and was a good ending piece for the character of Ripley. It also inspired the most autistic retcon ever from a most heinous game that is now sadly canon.

EDIT: Looks like I'm not going to watch it in theaters then, if at all. Rapace reprises Shaw in this film which considering I did not like Prometheus comes off as a big ol' fuck you to me. This is along with Fassbender doing a Brent Spiner by playing two roles in it, and learning this Scott asshole wants to make an interquel between the two and already has it written. These three items effectively killed off my interest and I kind of want them to fail now.
 
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CleverJokeHere

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The movie was fine I guess but holy shit the CGI creature effects were fucking early 2000 tier. What happened to all the practical effects, guys? I fucking SAW alien suits and facehugger props in behind the scenes videos and stills. I guess that's what happens when you decide to paint over practical effects with CGI but then move up a film's release date like three months?
 

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To be honest, I hated Covenant. The characters kept making stupid slasher film decisions and everything else was either really boring or just blatantly trying to copy the highs of the first two films. The Xenomorph was very obvious CGI and the last third did the number 1 thing these films are not supposed to do: Show exactly where the alien is at all times. It really saps out any potential suspense to the viewer.

I'm quickly starting to realize that this franchise is lost without Ripley. Even Alien 3 and Resurrection had a few occasional standout moments as long as she was running the show. But without her, the magic is kind of gone. *sigh*
 

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