There's no way we can actually quantify with statistics something like this when we have zero understanding of how such a system would work. What are the odds that a civilization will be able to succesfully create von Neumann probes? One in a billion? One in 10^78? I don't know enough about von Neumann probes to determine that, and neither does anyone else on this planet. Anyone who says they do is a charlatan.Mathematically speaking, an intelligent species shouod have arisen that is capable of making von neumann probes, and we should have encounterrd evidence on one.
I always suspected real first contact with any alien life would more or less go like thisIf we start planning for anything there's a good chance we will make a mess of first contact.
Indeed. and the funny thing is it was just as rare in star trek. tldr: the reason there are so may intelligent species around and that they happen to have such similar biology is because one single species evolved, realized nobody else had evolved and that they were alone in the universe, so they decided to seed other planets with life that would eventually evolve into something similar to them so they wouldn't be alone anymoreMale Idiot said:I feel like the chance to have an intelligent species evolve is VERY low. Something that happens very rarely in the galaxy. So the intelligent life on every planet star trek star wars thing is unlikely.
Does anyone else remember, a few years ago some scientists were claiming they had found evidence of this happening on earth. They made a big splash with a Reddit post and it got some traction online and seemed somewhat legit. They said they were going to come out with more proof shortly.Indeed. and the funny thing is it was just as rare in star trek. tldr: the reason there are so may intelligent species around and that they happen to have such similar biology is because one single species evolved, realized nobody else had evolved and that they were alone in the universe, so they decided to seed other planets with life that would eventually evolve into something similar to
At least we share a common ancestor.Even if aliens existed, they'd probably be assholes. I mean, if you came to Earth and a bunch of smelly bipods grabbed you and stuck you in a glass room and fed you grass, would you really want to cooperate and show them how to cure diseases that they physiologically can't get?
The concept of aliens managing to find us is mind-boggling. The idea of us finding them is laughable. The odds that we're similar enough to have a meaningful exchange of ideas is positively ludicrous. After all, showing up to Africa not speaking the language will get you shot for your fillings. How can we expect aliens to treat us differently?
Eric W. Davis, an astrophysicist who worked as a subcontractor and then a consultant for the Pentagon U.F.O. program since 2007, said that, in some cases, examination of the materials had so far failed to determine their source and led him to conclude, “We couldn’t make it ourselves.”
The constraints on discussing classified programs — and the ambiguity of information cited in unclassified slides from the briefings — have put officials who have studied U.F.O.s in the position of stating their views without presenting any hard evidence.
Mr. Davis, who now works for Aerospace Corporation, a defense contractor, said he gave a classified briefing to a Defense Department agency as recently as March about retrievals from “off-world vehicles not made on this earth.”
Dank Net made a good doc about the guy and his group of friends, doesn't go much into the ufo stuff but everything else around it: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jl2356IOTrYBob Lazar
One reasonable conjecture, is that greys are basically biological robots built by the actual aliens, to give humans something familiar to interact with. Sort of like zookeepers using bird puppets to feed baby eagles with.I think there's probably life outside Earth, but I don't believe in "grays". Seems kind of ridiculous to think "there's life outside the earth! And they look exactly like us, except with bigger heads and gray skin!".
Like c'mon, be a little more creative than that.
The UTH has some good stuff going for it, but it's also plausible that our brains just happen to be good at generating conscious-seeming behavior out of noise. Combine that with weird electromagnetic shit and who knows what a person will see.I like the hypothesis of Passport to Magonia or maybe the Jungian one, that would make aliens not extraterrestrial but extradimensional. Like faeries and trolls and bigfoot are the same as aliens and they are some astral beings or maybe egregors from our collective unconscious trying to send us criptic messages of things humanity us neglected, its such a cool sci fi concept. Not much of a believer honestly, but i really like folklore and mythology and see aliens are something that ties to that, like a faerie myth for a cientific secular world.