All news is fake news - Is confirmation bias real?

[WW 635]

We constantly hear that things are fake news, but sometimes that "fake news" is just a poorly framed story based on real events. How do you determine what is fake news? Does confirmation bias play a role?

Ian Bremmer apologizes for fabricating Trump quote bashing Biden

Political scientist Ian Bremmer apologized Monday for fabricating a Trump statement about North Korea and Joe Biden that generated controversy and elicited condemnation from President Trump himself.

www.washingtonexaminer.com

 

[Notan Alte]

its just news that's not real lol

 

[garakfan69]

I only trust news that fit my world view.

 

[WW 635]

its just news that's not real lol

What about this tho?

Trump Agrees With North Korea's Assessment That Biden Is "Low IQ," Biden And Obama Were "A Disaster"

During a press conference Monday morning with Japanese Prime Minister Shinzo Abe, President Trump clarified his stance on North Korea and Iran, and agreed with North Korean dictator Kim Jong Un that former VP Joe Biden is a "low IQ individual." AMERICAN REPORTER: Mr. President, a follow up on...

www.realclearpolitics.com

 

[ProgKing of the North]

your mom's fake news

 

[Mightykiwi]

News that agrees with me is based, woke and redpilled. News that doesn't is fake news

 

[CamelCursive]

TBH, I'd say there's a lot to it. It's all about the language they use. I could post at length about it, but I don't feel like it at the moment. May revisit.

Also, a lot of times a journalist is just fucking stupid and doesn't know how to read data.

 

[VIVIIXI]

your mom's fake news

True.

The stories about your mom, however, can be verified on any number of sites. Just remember to verify that you are an adult.

 

[Surf and TERF]

I cum into deep thots for this bullshit.

 

[Exorbital Columnations]

I don't believe you.

 

[mr.moon1488]

What about this tho?

Trump Agrees With North Korea's Assessment That Biden Is "Low IQ," Biden And Obama Were "A Disaster"

During a press conference Monday morning with Japanese Prime Minister Shinzo Abe, President Trump clarified his stance on North Korea and Iran, and agreed with North Korean dictator Kim Jong Un that former VP Joe Biden is a "low IQ individual." AMERICAN REPORTER: Mr. President, a follow up on...

www.realclearpolitics.com

That's not really outright fake, but it's clearly misleading. Someone reading that headline from a blank perspective would think "omg, he's paling around, and agreeing with horrible dictators," when in actuality, his comments were made partially in jest, and in response to a leading question "Do you believe that they violated U.N. resolutions with the short-range missiles launch (if the media was even remotely ethical, this would be the end of the question), and does it give you pause at all to be appearing to side with a brutal dictator instead of with a fellow American, the former vice president, Joe Biden?"

 

[WW 635]

What about this one where the title and evidence are clearly misleading in favour of the defendant:

Albert Wilson Sentenced To Over 12 Years In Prison For Rape He Didn't Commit

Albert Wilson has maintained his innocence throughout the very complicated trial.

www.vibe.com

Same article with different headline:

Black College Student Sentenced to 12 Years in Prison for Kissing a White Girl

Albert N. Wilson, a former University of Kansas student, has been sentenced to 12 years in prison and a lifetime of probation after being convicted by an all-white jury of raping a white teen girl.

www.blacknews.com

Article with missing discussion of evidence relevant to the conviction:

Man sentenced to more than 12 years for raping teen he met at Lawrence college bar

Story updated at 10:17 a.m. Thursday A former University of Kansas student was sentenced to prison Wednesday for raping a teen he met at a bar near the campus. Douglas County District Court Judge Sally Pokorny ordered Albert N. Wilson, 23, of Wichita, to 147 months, or just over 12 years, in...

www2.ljworld.com

Is the first or second one fake news, just misleading, or is it legit journalism?

 

[Sperglord Dante]

What about this one where the title and evidence are clearly misleading in favour of the defendant:

Albert Wilson Sentenced To Over 12 Years In Prison For Rape He Didn't Commit

Albert Wilson has maintained his innocence throughout the very complicated trial.

www.vibe.com

Same article with different headline:

Black College Student Sentenced to 12 Years in Prison for Kissing a White Girl

Albert N. Wilson, a former University of Kansas student, has been sentenced to 12 years in prison and a lifetime of probation after being convicted by an all-white jury of raping a white teen girl.

www.blacknews.com

Article with missing discussion of evidence relevant to the conviction:

Man sentenced to more than 12 years for raping teen he met at Lawrence college bar

Story updated at 10:17 a.m. Thursday A former University of Kansas student was sentenced to prison Wednesday for raping a teen he met at a bar near the campus. Douglas County District Court Judge Sally Pokorny ordered Albert N. Wilson, 23, of Wichita, to 147 months, or just over 12 years, in...

www2.ljworld.com

Is the first or second one fake news, just misleading, or is it legit journalism?

The first one has a much more obvious spin, and the second is more of a summary of the trial itself and sounds more matter of fact, but I wouldn't call the first one fake news. The bit about the security tapes got me curious for more details, and the second source happened to have an article on the defendant's account too (which imo they should've quoted in their most recent story) :

Defendant at trial: ‘She didn’t seem intoxicated at all … I didn’t rape her’

Jurors at a Lawrence rape trial initially heard a young woman tearfully testify that she was 17, dizzy-drunk at a college bar, assaulted on the dance floor and then led away and raped by a man she’d just met. Jurors heard a very different account from that man. Albert N. Wilson, 23, of Lawrence...

www2.ljworld.com

If anything this is proof that you should always be willing to hear both sides before reaching a conclusion.

 

[WhoBusTank69]

There is a difference between something being entirely fake and lying by omission/obfuscating the facts.
Aside from outright lying; opinion pieces, baseless accusations, and fabricated quotes are what should be described as fake news, as it is either not news in even the loosest sense or is falsely reported as news.

Misleading headlines, while scummy, are an invention of desperate journalists and bloggers to get attention.

 

[Exorbital Columnations]

"WAAA WAAA I HAVE TO BE INFORMED ENOUGH TO INTERPRET EVENTS WITHOUT RELYING ON A GATEKEEPER WAA WAA."

^Everyone who ever complained about fake news.

 

[FakeNewsAnchor]

If you have an issue with the work I do, you must not care about democracy much.

 

[CamelCursive]

"WAAA WAAA I HAVE TO BE INFORMED ENOUGH TO INTERPRET EVENTS WITHOUT RELYING ON A GATEKEEPER WAA WAA."

^Everyone who ever complained about fake news.

Or, you know, we're a bit more concerned about the misinformed mobs of idiots out there that can be objectively dangerous.

It's not always about yourself, way to misrepresent the argument.

 

[Exorbital Columnations]

Or, you know, we're a bit more concerned about the misinformed mobs of idiots out there that can be objectively dangerous.

It's not always about yourself, way to misrepresent the argument.

So.. We're going to solve the "people are stupider than me" problem once and for all? I'm impressed but a tad skeptical.

I'd say worrying about yourself is more efficient and rational.

 

[CamelCursive]

So.. We're going to solve the "people are stupider than me" problem once and for all? I'm impressed but a tad skeptical.

I'd say worrying about yourself is more efficient and rational.

While that sounds good, it's not "me" I'm concerned about. I'm concerned about gullible idiots. All it takes is the right kind of spin and we've got a riot on our hands. If you don't think this is a legitimate concern, you're not paying attention.

 

[ProgKing of the North]

While that sounds good, it's not "me" I'm concerned about. I'm concerned about gullible idiots.

Implying that you're not just as big of a gullible idiot about your hot-button issues