Alt-right / White Nationalists and China - Why do they simp China?

[Shield Breaker]

Is it just me, or do a lot of the WN/AR fags on here and other sites seem to be kissing PRC ass quite a bit? I'm not sure why this is. Do they see them abusing minorities in their nation and it makes them feel sad they can't do the same? Or what?

 

[RatRoyalty]

China Good

 

[Otis Boi]

I think its because some Wn/Ar see Asians as honorary white people.That and see how nationalist and xenophobic they can be as a big plus. I have no idea why they would simp for China because they are about on the same levels as retarded homeless when its comes to hygenine,socail grace,general public desencey,ect.

I know this for a fact I would much rather live in town of blacks then a town of Chinese

 

[SSF2T Old User]

Anyone who simps for China should be considered a traitor no matter who they are or what country they are from.

I think its because some Wn/Ar see Asians as honorary white people.

That's just the Japanese. WN/AR (at least on /pol/) always talk about how Jews fear the Samurai. Personally I haven't been on /pol/ since 8ch died, but if they and the other WN/AR are calling China "based" then they've all gone full-blown retarded.

 

[Bunny Tracks]

I think it's because they love how China is genociding Uyghurs a.k.a. muslims. That and they think they're based for not being politically correct, even though they are just not in the way the West is. Also, they probably just have yellow fever, too.

 

[Medulseur]

One day its the left who get accused of being China simps, and now its the right? It really is just a game of back and forth with politispergs isn't it?

 

[Rusty Crab]

Maybe also a little bit of "The enemy of my enemy is my friend".

 

[Milkis]

I too think it's a red/brown coalition thing (as happened in Prussia in '32 to oust the SPD). If I wanted to really grind some gears I'd say that even the Founding Fathers made an alliance with Britain's hereditary enemy, despite half of them thinking the French were going to try and make America their own colony.

 

[wtfNeedSignUp]

It's actually a pet peeve of mine that people on the right will continuously talk about the Jews/Troons/Blacks while ignoring Chinese influence, despite the latter being more organized, threatening, capable and nefarious. My guess why is that, unlike the others, the effects of Chinese influence is far harder to directly show. There are no Chinese officials directly in government, Chinese pride parades or Chinese riots.

 

[brentkanaris]

Things already brought up like China's nationalism and xenophobia and it's conduct against non-Han minorities. But the crucial reason is that the Alt-right / White Nationalists are pro-authoritarian politics and are against liberal democracy almost as an original sin. They believe it's the reason whites and the west are marching towards "globohomo". They see China, through their challenge towards the west, as a challenge against liberal democracy and offering an authoritarian alternative. Some may still simp for Japan for it's relatively low immigration, but it's still a liberal democracy and some see it sliding towards globohomo too. Compared to China, which they see as less degenerate and culturally put together (China bans porn, Japan is home to it).

Keep in mind, many of the alt-right and white nationalist camp fell for the nazbol meme, so you'll see them also simping for Stalinist, soviet-style and post-soviet regimes like North Korea, Qadaffi's Libya, Syria, Belarus, etc because although they're not the fascists you'd expect them to praise, they see these regimes as not expressly anti-white and more important not liberal democracies compared to the current west. Lastly economically, they see China's model as a better alternative to the neoliberalism of the west. Thus, China is seen as a model not only as an ethnostate, but a politically authoritarian and culturally together one as well.

 

[Wayneright]

At the risk of overdosing on tinfoil...

Paid shit-stirrers (which China is known to deploy onto the internet) sometimes pretend to belong to fringe groups (such as white nationalists). This fraud accomplishes two goals: make said groups appear even more 'fringey' to ordinary people (making it more unlikely they gain widespread support), and potentially corral members of the group (via bandwagon fallacy) toward a useful narrative or cause. It's not impossible a few actual white nationalists actually appreciate the authoritarian way China operates, but most are well aware the CCP would sooner execute them as useful idiots than allow their ideas to flourish. The CCP has more plots to muddy the water than the CIA had to kill Fidel Castro, this impersonation scheme is just one of them.

It's actually a pet peeve of mine that people on the right will continuously talk about the Jews/Troons/Blacks while ignoring Chinese influence, despite the latter being more organized, threatening, capable and nefarious. My guess why is that, unlike the others, the effects of Chinese influence is far harder to directly show. There are no Chinese officials directly in government, Chinese pride parades or Chinese riots.

China is pretty open about how they love to undermine the United States. China has also dealt with the Rothschilds (or "the Jews") more than a few times ever since becoming politically relevant. There's no either-or, both groups want to fuck you.

 

[brentkanaris]

I too think it's a red/brown coalition thing

The red-brown coalition is a long running fantasy by radical and nationalist rightist types to pitch to the far left by saying "we're not capitalist like the other rightists" in hopes they embrace their nationalism cultural takes and unite to "own the libs". This will never happen and the few times it did happened it ended in spectacular failure, for the right. You don;t even see anyone on the radical left promoting this.

One day its the left who get accused of being China simps, and now its the right? It really is just a game of back and forth with politispergs isn't it?

These are not mutually exclusive you know. For the same reason you both certain sections of the left and right simping for radical musims. They see the current west as bad and see the challenges to it good.

 

[wtfNeedSignUp]

At the risk of overdosing on tinfoil...

Paid shit-stirrers (which China is known to deploy onto the internet) sometimes pretend to belong to fringe groups (such as white nationalists). This fraud accomplishes two goals: make said groups appear even more 'fringey' to ordinary people (making it more unlikely they gain widespread support), and potentially corral members of the group (via bandwagon fallacy) toward a useful narrative or cause. It's not impossible a few actual white nationalists actually appreciate the authoritarian way China operates, but most are well aware the CCP would sooner execute them as useful idiots than allow their ideas to flourish. The CCP has more plots to muddy the water than the CIA had to kill Fidel Castro, this impersonation scheme is just one of them.


China is pretty open about how they love to undermine the United States. China has also dealt with the Rothschilds (or "the Jews") more than a few times ever since becoming politically relevant. There's no either-or, both groups want to fuck you.

There are some jewish (and non-jewish) billionaires like Soros who want to manipulate politics for their worldview, China uses them for weakening the west but will never let them have as much freedom once they gain control. In the end the elites going in line to suck on China's tiny shlong is one of the reason China is never talked about in a negative context.

 

[The Pink Panther]

What?

 

[I-chi]

This is news to me man, I fuckin hate loathe the Chinese. I'm not even alt-right or a white nationalist, I just hate the Chinese. They make it extraordinarily easy to hate them.

 

[Admiral Mantoid]

Anyone who sucks China and Xi Pooh's microdicks can go eat shit.

 

[Liber Pater]

Some on the Dissident Right believe that if China were to replace the US as top superpower, whites and white countries would be treated worse than Chinese (obviously) but better than blacks and most other groups. This would, in theory, be an improvement over the status quo where the dominant Anglo-American-Israeli axis actively tries to fuck over whites and put the interests of almost every other group first.
Others are drawn to China's Third Position economic policies (heavy investment in infrastructure and industry, mostly nationalized financial sector, protectionism, "state capitalism," etc) or their pragmatic attitude to innate human differences (as evinced by their research on applied human genetics and embrace of standardized testing (including genetic testing) in assessing individual abilities), and apparent openness to eugenics. Futurists on the Dissident Right are sometimes drawn to the PRC's carefully cultivated image as some of technological utopia with advanced mass transit, a world-class computing industry, etc, etc (which is, of course, largely propaganda, but some people want to believe it so badly that they allow themselves to be taken in by it).
Finally, there are some who find the more positive attitudes towards whites in parts of East/Southeast Asia refreshing and just want to rationalize their appreciation for these countries within their ideological framework (because saying "I am willing to abandon my people (despite being an ethnonationalist) in order to pursue my dream of having a qt Asian gf in a high-trust, low-crime country where I don't have to deal with niggers and 'sensitivity training' at work" sounds embarassingly self-serving and hypocritical).
Overall, I think a lot of this is just copium. The PRC is not the Antichrist, but it is certainly not the "savior of the white race" either. Most of the CCP's "accomplishments" are fake or exaggerated and their current societal model still has a lot of weaknesses and instabilities.
The most Europeans can look for from China is a counterbalance to American hegemony (which could give more leverage to smaller countries like Hungary, Poland, or Greece when dealing with the US/EU) to and a lifeline for groups/governments that resist "maximum pressure" from Zionists and globohomo (Syria, Iran, and Slobodanist Serbia being recent examples).
The only real virtue of the Chicoms is that they are so pragmatic, ethnocentric and difficult to subvert that they will cut deals/alliances with pretty much anyone (if it serves their interests), regardless of how much the (((usual suspects))) might try to shame or pressure them. If they will do business and maintain diplomatic ties with Iran and North Korea, it's not unreasonable to expect that they might do the same for overtly pro-White, anti-ZOG governments.

 

[Milkis]

The red-brown coalition is a long running fantasy by radical and nationalist rightist types to pitch to the far left by saying "we're not capitalist like the other rightists" in hopes they embrace their nationalism cultural takes and unite to "own the libs". This will never happen and the few times it did happened it ended in spectacular failure, for the right. You don;t even see anyone on the radical left promoting this.

What the hell are you talking about? I was referring to the historical event during the 1932 state elections in Prussia

 

[The Last Stand]

It seems like China is quite influential for authoritarian control.

They want to be China in terms of the Western world. Genocide, slave trade and economical dominance.

Yet, the Internet and Hollywood has more Chinese influence. In their same breath, they'll demean the Left for being China's hand puppets.

 

[Shield Breaker]

What?

Take A&N for example, the white nat rats are always bitching about the Jews, but get upset when people shit talk China. They will often mock people for 'being obsessed' over China or pull a whataboutism.

One day its the left who get accused of being China simps, and now its the right? It really is just a game of back and forth with politispergs isn't it?

It isn't hard to figure out. The Republican party is in bed with Israel, the Democratic party is in bed with China. Both Israel and China are extremely nationalistic. White nat rats seem to have a problem with Israel being this way, but not China.