Inactive Amanda/Amelia Baggs / witharoundsmoothstone / ballastexistenz - moonfaced malingering autistic "activist"/SJW

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This is some nice info



Yeah, sounds about right. Notice how she wrote ''There’s even a chance that the written word would have become as useless to me as the spoken word did."
This is some revealing stuff because:
1. She straight up says the spoken word ''became'' useless to her. Sounds like she ditched the act of speech entirely in favor of looking more mentally ill (read: autistic), at her own volition. She knew exactly what she was doing and how it would play out in a world where autism was still an obscure disability.
2. She learned from a young age that writing texts and posting them online would bring her more sympathy because back then, people believed that everything on the internet was true, especially if coming from someone suffering from an obscure mental illness that nobody knew how it worked exactly, not even doctors. So many people took her word, as a ''sufferer'' from said illness and then they put her as some sort of spokesperson for autism. Which backfired horribly on her later.



Also another interesting choice of words here. So she got exposed to the internet at an early age and saw all sorts of degeneracy and terrible stuff. Is learning about mental illnesses a thing she discovered ''accidentally'' too? Or was she just curious about it? Has someone shown her texts about autistic people and she decided she was one of them to gain sympathy from the good internet people?

I don't know, the way she wrote stuff always made me think maybe she was unconsciously trying to tell everyone what her real deal was. Like when someone wants to admit they're guilty but don't have the guts do to so so they just send mixed signals about it hoping someone will catch it and end with the lies and fakery. Maybe she let it slip without even noticing.

All I know is she was never honest with others and especially herself.

yeah i highly doubt she ever been molested, this was more of her victim building status

dos anyone know the stories between amanda and shelly aka droopy, she was a supposed '' autistic'' woman in michigan, in a high-rise who would make vids and blogs of her doing stupid shit, acting like a child, ''stimming with toys'' claiming amanda copied her life, and amanda claims shelly copied and stalked HER life

shelly droopy used to have a blog i cannot find it, she also had youtube vids the channel got killed right at the same time of amandas so called fame and when she got called out after all that in the controversy


found the blog whats left of it http://droopyssafespace.blogspot.com/2005/
 
This is some nice info



Yeah, sounds about right. Notice how she wrote ''There’s even a chance that the written word would have become as useless to me as the spoken word did."
This is some revealing stuff because:
1. She straight up says the spoken word ''became'' useless to her. Sounds like she ditched the act of speech entirely in favor of looking more mentally ill (read: autistic), at her own volition. She knew exactly what she was doing and how it would play out in a world where autism was still an obscure disability.
2. She learned from a young age that writing texts and posting them online would bring her more sympathy because back then, people believed that everything on the internet was true, especially if coming from someone suffering from an obscure mental illness that nobody knew how it worked exactly, not even doctors. So many people took her word, as a ''sufferer'' from said illness and then they put her as some sort of spokesperson for autism. Which backfired horribly on her later.



Also another interesting choice of words here. So she got exposed to the internet at an early age and saw all sorts of degeneracy and terrible stuff. Is learning about mental illnesses a thing she discovered ''accidentally'' too? Or was she just curious about it? Has someone shown her texts about autistic people and she decided she was one of them to gain sympathy from the good internet people?

I don't know, the way she wrote stuff always made me think maybe she was unconsciously trying to tell everyone what her real deal was. Like when someone wants to admit they're guilty but don't have the guts do to so so they just send mixed signals about it hoping someone will catch it and end with the lies and fakery. Maybe she let it slip without even noticing.

All I know is she was never honest with others and especially herself.

I always got the same impression about her writing style. Sort of like the old trick of someone asking for advice about an embarrassing personal problem and claiming that they're asking for "a friend". I also always believed that there was a ton of projection in her blog posts and that nearly everything had a specific meaning when viewed in the proper context.

Rachel Dolezal of Autism said:
I don’t think there’s good guys and bad guys in the world. I think humanity is an interesting mix of good and bad and everything in between. I think every one of us does things right and every one of us does things wrong, some more than others in either direction, most of us a whole lot of both.

I do suspect there are people who see the world as good guys and bad guys. That worldview would be more likely to make a person panic when someone doesn’t like what they’re doing, thinking, or feeling. “Oh no, that person’s saying I’m a Bad Guy.”

No, that person’s saying you’re human. Being human doesn’t let you off the hook for doing something wrong. But doing something wrong doesn’t negate everything good you’ve ever done. And it’s important not to get your sense of self-worth all tied up in whether you’re doing good things, because that actually makes it harder to do the right thing. Because it makes you want to think you’re doing the right thing even when you’re not, so that you can keep up the belief you’re a good person. And when you want to think you’re doing the right thing even when you’re not, it’s easier to just go into denial when you screw up.

I think this is some of the mental gymnastics that she used to justify her ruse. You see, even if she's a lying, sociopathic piece of shit who is clearly defrauding an already overburdened public welfare program, she still says stuff that needed to be said. So get the fuck off her back, shitlord!
 

Shanndog

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I always got the same impression about her writing style. Sort of like the old trick of someone asking for advice about an embarrassing personal problem and claiming that they're asking for "a friend". I also always believed that there was a ton of projection in her blog posts and that nearly everything had a specific meaning when viewed in the proper context.



I think this is some of the mental gymnastics that she used to justify her ruse. You see, even if she's a lying, sociopathic piece of shit who is clearly defrauding an already overburdened public welfare program, she still says stuff that needed to be said. So get the fuck off her back, shitlord!

yep, thats about the size of it,
heh heh ''asking for a friend'' oh yes that is like the oldest trick in the book :biggrin:
 
yeah i highly doubt she ever been molested, this was more of her victim building status

dos anyone know the stories between amanda and shelly aka droopy, she was a supposed '' autistic'' woman in michigan, in a high-rise who would make vids and blogs of her doing stupid shit, acting like a child, ''stimming with toys'' claiming amanda copied her life, and amanda claims shelly copied and stalked HER life

shelly droopy used to have a blog i cannot find it, she also had youtube vids the channel got killed right at the same time of amandas so called fame and when she got called out after all that in the controversy


found the blog whats left of it http://droopyssafespace.blogspot.com/2005/

I always thought Droopy saw Amanda's hoax and wanted to muscle in. I never bought her as legit, even as much as I despised Amanda. Although it was hilarious how pissed Amanda was that Shelley/Droopy was claiming that she was co-opting her life story since I always had a feeling that that was in fact how Amanda came up with all her bizarre tales. I suspected that even before you came on her talking about your experiences with her at Decker Towers.

One thing I always found funny was when Droopy said that Amanda copied every aspect of her life except for being Jewish, saying something like "Apparently, Amanda thinks being seen as Jew would be undignified even by her standards." LOL
 

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I always thought Droopy saw Amanda's hoax and wanted to muscle in. I never bought her as legit, even as much as I despised Amanda. Although it was hilarious how pissed Amanda was that Shelley/Droopy was claiming that she was co-opting her life story since I always had a feeling that that was in fact how Amanda came up with all her bizarre tales. I suspected that even before you came on her talking about your experiences with her at Decker Towers.

One thing I always found funny was when Droopy said that Amanda copied every aspect of her life except for being Trump's Chosen, saying something like "Apparently, Amanda thinks being seen as one of Trump's Chosen People would be undignified even by her standards." LOL

LOL ooh yeah it was quite the clown sit show , i stumbled on droopy in youtube on accident and i was curious and cautious, as i had heard about a person called shelly/ droopy in boards like wrong planet and similar, and heard about amandas issues with her, i had actually asked amanda about droopy, asking is this the person you were saying that was stalking and copying you''... she said yes, she told me she was a ''dangerous stalker'' and she was a fetishist--- a person who likes childs toys and wearing nappies''... i was like wwwooaah, the creeper factor has gone up like 8 times lol. and when shelly/droopy had youtube vids i had noticed she had all sorts of child toys and diapers / nappies ect, and her room was was set up very much like a childs nursery, it was quite disturbing.

and i had suspicions about this chick, now like i said amanda said this woman is a autism faker and was copying amandas life--- honestly, i really think both of them are fake, shelly is a weird fetishist, who hides behind the guise of disability to indulge in her fetishes, and to excuse her behavior by saying its because of her disabilities--- kinda like that thomas wood guy in new hampshire .

and as far as amanda and shelly copying and mimicking each other.. amanda did that, she decided she needed to carry around comfort items ( things she could fidget with in her hands and carry everywhere like a security blanket. in fact she chose a mechanical sextant, and even made a lanyard for it and wore it around her neck, ) after she saw someone else that often carried comfort items ..., she decided she needed a very high end powerchair with supportive tilt in space seating after she saw my friend marcy with one, amanda really did take traits from various disabled people and sewn them on to her disability costume to wear and use .

but yes i discovered shelly, about a year before amandas controversy came to the surface, and after all that and shelly also '' disappeared'' around the same time, i figured both of them were just a couple of bat-crap crazy attention seeking disability wannabes. -- heh, like amanda care givers, id love to hearfrom shellys as well, that had to be super awkward taking care of a grey haired woman wearing nappies and playing with children's toys while you cleaned and cooked for them ** shudders , cringes* .
 

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I think if we dig deep enough and ask the right people, we will find that Amanda actually copied many others. I doubt she came with every ''symptom'' and ''affliction'' by herself. She must have performed quit the digging on other autistics and mentally ill people, as we see with a lot of munchies. They mix other people's symptoms to turn themselves into the snowflakest of snowflakes from the sickness playground.

With Amanda, we already know things came by ''phases'': first the non-verbal, then the stimming, then the feeding tube, then the sensory stuff etc etc. I think she was just reading other people's experiences on autism/other syndromes and just going apeshit and claiming to also having them for extra special points.
If someone come clear about her and say Amanda was a big copycat, I would 100% believe them.
 

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I think if we dig deep enough and ask the right people, we will find that Amanda actually copied many others. I doubt she came with every ''symptom'' and ''affliction'' by herself. She must have performed quit the digging on other autistics and mentally ill people, as we see with a lot of munchies. They mix other people's symptoms to turn themselves into the snowflakest of snowflakes from the sickness playground.

With Amanda, we already know things came by ''phases'': first the non-verbal, then the stimming, then the feeding tube, then the sensory stuff etc etc. I think she was just reading other people's experiences on autism/other syndromes and just going apeshit and claiming to also having them for extra special points.
If someone come clear about her and say Amanda was a big copycat, I would 100% believe them.

you hit it square on, yes, she did like eveery actor does when they portray a disabled or other type of person / character, they study various people within a group and they take traits and mannerisms from a number of people ina group and they interpret it and combine them all together to form a character, that is exactly what amanda did !! i have said it before, if she had used these skills for good she would have made one hell of a stage and or movie actor. as she had so many people fooled for years !! she had some genuine skill to be able to pull off what she did, but again, like her other skills she did not use them for good, she applied herself in all the wrong ways and ended up sabotaging herself and ruining many lives including her own.
 

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you hit it square on, yes, she did like eveery actor does when they portray a disabled or other type of person / character, they study various people within a group and they take traits and mannerisms from a number of people ina group and they interpret it and combine them all together to form a character, that is exactly what amanda did !! i have said it before, if she had used these skills for good she would have made one hell of a stage and or movie actor. as she had so many people fooled for years !! she had some genuine skill to be able to pull off what she did, but again, like her other skills she did not use them for good, she applied herself in all the wrong ways and ended up sabotaging herself and ruining many lives including her own.

I think this happens to a lot of munchies, they actually possess good acting skills but sadly, they use it to lie to people and fake things for personal gain.
Amanda always seemed to me as being a very insecure person who would do anything and everything in her hands to gain people's sympathy, even if she had to lie and deceive everyone around her.
What gets these people in the end is the fact that nobody can lie forever, especially when you live in a lie 24/7, like she did. Eventually people will catch you, it's inevitable.
But I think what also ruined her was her rampant narcissism. She didn't want to be only another ''gifted'' child in a sea of other ''gifted'' children. She wanted to be special, and this completely ruined her.
 

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I think this happens to a lot of munchies, they actually possess good acting skills but sadly, they use it to lie to people and fake things for personal gain.
Amanda always seemed to me as being a very insecure person who would do anything and everything in her hands to gain people's sympathy, even if she had to lie and deceive everyone around her.
What gets these people in the end is the fact that nobody can lie forever, especially when you live in a lie 24/7, like she did. Eventually people will catch you, it's inevitable.
But I think what also ruined her was her rampant narcissism. She didn't want to be only another ''gifted'' child in a sea of other ''gifted'' children. She wanted to be special, and this completely ruined her.

very true, exactly , yeah amanda was incredibly self centered and narcissistic, and as we all know VERY VERY manipulative, which is a key component in munchie doings and any other con game for that matter.
 

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One thing I always found funny was when Droopy said that Amanda copied every aspect of her life except for being Trump's Chosen, saying something like "Apparently, Amanda thinks being seen as one of Trump's Chosen People would be undignified even by her standards." LOL

That wouldn't have gone over well with Amanda's core audience, LOL.
 
I think this happens to a lot of munchies, they actually possess good acting skills but sadly, they use it to lie to people and fake things for personal gain.
Amanda always seemed to me as being a very insecure person who would do anything and everything in her hands to gain people's sympathy, even if she had to lie and deceive everyone around her.
What gets these people in the end is the fact that nobody can lie forever, especially when you live in a lie 24/7, like she did. Eventually people will catch you, it's inevitable.
But I think what also ruined her was her rampant narcissism. She didn't want to be only another ''gifted'' child in a sea of other ''gifted'' children. She wanted to be special, and this completely ruined her.

Despite what those who knew her growing up stated, I always had my doubts that Amanda was completely "normal", at least as far as her personality goes. Sure, she socialized normally with other kids, wore normal clothes, participated in class and other activities, practiced normal hygiene, etc. But I just find it hard to believe that there were no "special snowflake" moments that went beyond normal childhood or adolescent melodrama that in hindsight, people might think odd. Sort of like how when someone is diagnosed with a disease like dementia and those closest to them will suddenly look back and remember all the warning signs that at the time didn't seem super important. I wonder if anyone noticed any odd interactions between her and her family members (especially Anna).

I have a feeling that behind closed doors (if not publicly too at times) Amanda was one of those smart kids whose parents do nothing but tell them how much smarter they are than all the other kids in their school and how all those kids are just jealous. They are never really encouraged to use that intelligence to develop any actual marketable skills. It may get them through junior high or high school, but they hit rock bottom when they go to college or into the workforce and realize that you actually have to do something with those smarts rather than brag about them.
 

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Despite what those who knew her growing up stated, I always had my doubts that Amanda was completely "normal", at least as far as her personality goes. Sure, she socialized normally with other kids, wore normal clothes, participated in class and other activities, practiced normal hygiene, etc. But I just find it hard to believe that there were no "special snowflake" moments that went beyond normal childhood or adolescent melodrama that in hindsight, people might think odd. Sort of like how when someone is diagnosed with a disease like dementia and those closest to them will suddenly look back and remember all the warning signs that at the time didn't seem super important. I wonder if anyone noticed any odd interactions between her and her family members (especially Anna).

I have a feeling that behind closed doors (if not publicly too at times) Amanda was one of those smart kids whose parents do nothing but tell them how much smarter they are than all the other kids in their school and how all those kids are just jealous. They are never really encouraged to use that intelligence to develop any actual marketable skills. It may get them through junior high or high school, but they hit rock bottom when they go to college or into the workforce and realize that you actually have to do something with those smarts rather than brag about them.

Yeah, she never was normal to begin with. I think narcissism, insecurity, golden child syndrome, and various other things played a big role during her transformation into the nasty person we all know. The fact her mother seems to be a terrible person on top of it all sure wasn't doing her any favors. Her dad seemed absent during most of her life, like he didn't know what was going on, especially about the abuse accusation. Throw unsupervised internet use during the early 90s and you have the perfect recipe for disaster.
 

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Can anyone confirm that after Amanda started the non-verbal autist schtick that she actually remained mute as far as anyone is aware for the rest of her life? I know she made noises and grunts but did she actually speak at all after her teen years?

Whatever else you can say about Amanda‘s BS committing to self-imposed mutism for nearly twenty years is beyond bizarre. It takes some off the charts insanity to stick to that for years and not slip up.
 

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Can anyone confirm that after Amanda started the non-verbal autist schtick that she actually remained mute as far as anyone is aware for the rest of her life? I know she made noises and grunts but did she actually speak at all after her teen years?

Whatever else you can say about Amanda‘s BS committing to self-imposed mutism for nearly twenty years is beyond bizarre. It takes some off the charts insanity to stick to that for years and not slip up.

she stopped talking in her early 20s after meeting an autistic girl who didnt talk, in a mentor program, she started this mess after being in a mentor program for autistic and retarded kids.

yeah, its level 99 insanity,

i heard her say 2 words orally all the time i knew her, the rest was grunts.... NOW a few years ago, someone got a quick video iof her walking out of price chopper, and from what the person said she spoke normally, orally , to the cashier and it was pretty normal, in fact the vid is in the kiwi here, i can go back through tonight prolly and tell you what page if you like :)... its page 20 post 390 feb. 2017 and while the person did nbot gether talking toth e cashier, she dd say she talked pretty normally, and when you watch the little video clip, notice amandas walk, it is a normal gait !

Yeah, she never was normal to begin with. I think narcissism, insecurity, golden child syndrome, and various other things played a big role during her transformation into the nasty person we all know. The fact her mother seems to be a terrible person on top of it all sure wasn't doing her any favors. Her dad seemed absent during most of her life, like he didn't know what was going on, especially about the abuse accusation. Throw unsupervised internet use during the early 90s and you have the perfect recipe for disaster.

i feel that, , and from what i know, people said she was a little eccentric, but very intelligent and advanced, but in most ways very normal.

yes, i do believe her mom was a part in it, but amanda did plenty on her own, and dad seems to have been just a push over and stayed out of it as to not ruffle feathers----but at the same time he had a pretty decent relationship with amanda all through his life, so, i dont get why he didnt step in....

and while her mom and a few others had some influencing into amandas spiral into his fake disability munchie crap, it doesnt excuse her because even with all this, she was fully competent and knew right from wrong .
 
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she stopped talking in her early 20s after meeting an autistic girl who didnt talk, in a mentor program, she started this mess after being in a mentor program for autistic and exceptional kids.

yeah, its level 99 insanity,

i heard her say 2 words orally all the time i knew her, the rest was grunts.... NOW a few years ago, someone got a quick video iof her walking out of price chopper, and from what the person said she spoke normally, orally , to the cashier and it was pretty normal, in fact the vid is in the kiwi here, i can go back through tonight prolly and tell you what page if you like :)... its page 20 post 390 feb. 2017 and while the person did nbot gether talking toth e cashier, she dd say she talked pretty normally, and when you watch the little video clip, notice amandas walk, it is a normal gait !



i feel that, , and from what i know, people said she was a little eccentric, but very intelligent and advanced, but in most ways very normal.

yes, i do believe her mom was a part in it, but amanda did plenty on her own, and dad seems to have been just a push over and stayed out of it as to not ruffle feathers----but at the same time he had a pretty decent relationship with amanda all through his life, so, i dont get why he didnt step in....

and while her mom and a few others had some influencing into amandas spiral into his fake disability munchie crap, it doesnt excuse her because even with all this, she was fully competent and knew right from wrong .

See this is what I would expect - her facade slipping when no one was watching. Like at her home around her ”care team” doctors and various supporters she was mute and played up the autism. But running into stores or around strangers who didn’t know who she was the mask would slip.

If no one was around and she needed a cashier to make some exact change for her or to ask a specific question she’s going to cut the BS and just talk.

Only caveat is she looks so bizarre it would be kind of difficult to be anonymous and turn the talking on and off. If you asked around town about “the weird fat sped woman with gross, copious facial hair” people who know exactly who you were talking about. (Hopefully, scary town if there were numerous ppl that would fit Amanda’s general description.)
 
See this is what I would expect - her facade slipping when no one was watching. Like at her home around her ”care team” doctors and various supporters she was mute and played up the autism. But running into stores or around strangers who didn’t know who she was the mask would slip.

If no one was around and she needed a cashier to make some exact change for her or to ask a specific question she’s going to cut the BS and just talk.

Only caveat is she looks so bizarre it would be kind of difficult to be anonymous and turn the talking on and off. If you asked around town about “the weird fat sped woman with gross, copious facial hair” people who know exactly who you were talking about. (Hopefully, scary town if there were numerous ppl that would fit Amanda’s general description.)

This could also be chalked up to Amanda's narcissism. Someone who knowingly appears on national television pretending to be severely disabled thinks they're invincible. I really think that she didn't care if any former colleagues saw her because she could just talk her way out of it with the standard "Everybody's different and it's not like I said I represented everybody with autism! It's your own biases that led you to make that assumption!". And truth be told, the controversy quickly died down and she went on playing autistic without a second thought.

I keep going back to the Wrong planet thing in 2011 where it kinda felt apart. These weren't just former, NT classmates that she could simply wave away as not knowing what autism "actually" is. These were actual autistics who knew the ins and outs of the disability service system by virtue of having legit dealt with it directly. This was her "target audience" so to speak. She probably thought that they were such speds that it would never occur to them to spot any obvious inconsistencies in her story and call them out. But even her beloved auties turned on her. That's what she was way more afraid of happening, not some NT who doesn't "get" people like her. It was "the people like her" that got fed up.
 

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This could also be chalked up to Amanda's narcissism. Someone who knowingly appears on national television pretending to be severely disabled thinks they're invincible. I really think that she didn't care if any former colleagues saw her because she could just talk her way out of it with the standard "Everybody's different and it's not like I said I represented everybody with autism! It's your own biases that led you to make that assumption!". And truth be told, the controversy quickly died down and she went on playing autistic without a second thought.

A lot of narcissists thinks they're too good of ''deceivers'' for the average person. Like, they think they're smart and can talk their way out of every situation with half assed excuses because they're smart and we are all peasants. So what if some person saw her before the interview? She's Amanda, the martyr, the sufferer, the misunderstood genius and if you push her to tell the truth, YOU'RE the asshole, not her. She will also accuse you of horrible things, like prejudice and abuse, just because.
People like her are walking nightmares. They lie, steal, deceive, fake and when people call them out, they double down on their bullshit and make everyone feel guilty from calling them out. For narcissists, you're the problem, not them.

I keep going back to the Wrong planet thing in 2011 where it kinda felt apart. These weren't just former, NT classmates that she could simply wave away as not knowing what autism "actually" is. These were actual autistics who knew the ins and outs of the disability service system by virtue of having legit dealt with it directly. This was her "target audience" so to speak. She probably thought that they were such speds that it would never occur to them to spot any obvious inconsistencies in her story and call them out. But even her beloved auties turned on her. That's what she was way more afraid of happening, not some NT who doesn't "get" people like her. It was "the people like her" that got fed up.

Her arrogance in thinking she was the spediest of speds but also the smartest of the bunch ruined her. Amanda was the type of person who really believes being too autistic will magically turns you into big huge super genius (I blame the media and pop culture for painting scientists and geniuses as mentally unstable people), so naturally she, the queen of all autistics that ever walked on earth, could deceive all the other peasant speds, right? Well, wrong, since the community people were the first ones to notice something was amiss.

In the end, Amanda was the one who exposed herself before anyone else could.
 

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This could also be chalked up to Amanda's narcissism. Someone who knowingly appears on national television pretending to be severely disabled thinks they're invincible. I really think that she didn't care if any former colleagues saw her because she could just talk her way out of it with the standard "Everybody's different and it's not like I said I represented everybody with autism! It's your own biases that led you to make that assumption!". And truth be told, the controversy quickly died down and she went on playing autistic without a second thought.

I keep going back to the Wrong planet thing in 2011 where it kinda felt apart. These weren't just former, NT classmates that she could simply wave away as not knowing what autism "actually" is. These were actual autistics who knew the ins and outs of the disability service system by virtue of having legit dealt with it directly. This was her "target audience" so to speak. She probably thought that they were such speds that it would never occur to them to spot any obvious inconsistencies in her story and call them out. But even her beloved auties turned on her. That's what she was way more afraid of happening, not some NT who doesn't "get" people like her. It was "the people like her" that got fed up.

She had the tea spilled on her a couple of times. I think around the time the CNN stuff people were coming forward and saying ''I knew her, she was never disabled''.

In terms of ''wrong planet''- while there are legit Autistic's on that site it has always been a hub for those with interpersonal problems who self identify with some of the social impairment aspects of Autism and self diagnose themselves with it. Many are no more Autistic than Amanda. I think a lot of people with a personality disorder go towards the Autism label as a sort of comfort. That way they can believe they ''born that way'' and don't have to change anything.
 
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