Amazon Argues Users Don't Actually Own Purchased Prime Video Content -

[A Pox]

Wasn't it Amazon that removed e-books, that the readers had presumably "bought", from their e-readers, and then completely got away with it?
Yeah... I think I know what's gonna come out of that, namely: nothing.

That story is as misunderstood as "grandma spilled hot coffee on herself and sued McDonalds". It's a shitshow for a whole different reason.

Amazon has a self-publishing wing of their website. Anybody could upload whatever they wanted. Some people took the chance to upload public domain or pirated books. So every few weeks, Catcher In The Rye or Fountainhead or Stephen King's Under The Dome would race up the charts before Amazon noticed and removed it.

Amazon also has a feature where you can refund any book for any reason within a week. When you refund a book, their system pings your devices to delete BOOK_ID_1488whatever.

Enter some Australian public domain publisher. They put together a bundle of George Orwell books that are public domain in Aussieland for $2. It races up the charts. Amazon pulls the book since those the books aren't public domain in the US and they have no right to sell them. Amazon uses the refund feature to refund buyers, which also deletes the books.

Our kike media whips that into "AMAZON CAN READ AND DELETE FILES YOU PURCHASED, 1984 1984 1984" instead of the real story of Amazon's self-publishing wing being completely unmonitored. Anybody could publish anything under any name.

 

[murdered meat bag]

Convenience is the reason Amazon is big enough to be an asshole about shit like this.


Edit: has anybody here successfully set up their own media server? It's something I've been thinking about for a while and I'd love to pick your brain.

get plex or emby, expect to pay for apps or remote non lan playback.
any modern 4+ core cpu will transcode 1080p bluray rips without a problem.

8gb ram.

you can use a gpu if you want.

never used kodi dont expect to.

 

[Bland Crumbs]

get plex or emby, expect to pay for apps or remote non lan playback.
any modern 4+ core cpu will transcode 1080p bluray rips without a problem.

8gb ram.

you can use a gpu if you want.

never used kodi dont expect to.

Subsonic is another good one. Bet they did not expect me to still be using that lifetime license a decade later.

Just to add:

If you are going to rip your own junk AnyDVD HD or MakeMKV for ripping. Handbrake for transcoding. Oh and you will need a metric fuckton of storage space.

Oh and edit for: If you do rip your own stuff do not do anything silly like throwing it out. You may own the rips but if something ever happens to your computer you still lose them.

 

[1Tonka_Truck]

never used kodi dont expect to.

XBMC/Kodi was the shit for playing stuff to one room. It was workable up to maybe 4. Remote playback was such a unmitigated shit show I gave up and started using plex again.

 

[DarkSydeBills]

I tried Jellyfin a few days ago, it's pretty good and easy to setup.

 

[murdered meat bag]

Subsonic is another good one. Bet they did not expect me to still be using that lifetime license a decade later.

Just to add:

If you are going to rip your own junk AnyDVD HD or MakeMKV for ripping. Handbrake for transcoding. Oh and you will need a metric fuckton of storage space.

Oh and edit for: If you do rip your own stuff do not do anything silly like throwing it out. You may own the rips but if something ever happens to your computer you still lose them.

id say get makemkv over anydvd if you dont gave either. allows you to save space from the get go.

XBMC/Kodi was the shit for playing stuff to one room. It was workable up to maybe 4. Remote playback was such a unmitigated shit show I gave up and started using plex again.

plex is starting to suck with all their warner media tidal tie-ins. last year had 2 or 3 updates that fucked up remote play during their server rebuild. the latest update makes the windows app pull twice the data forwhatever reason.

regarding piracy, its a matter of time before streaming sites use widevine for everything and all anyone will offer is shitty obs screencaps.

 

[Bland Crumbs]

id say get makemkv over anydvd if you dont gave either. allows you to save space from the get go.


plex is starting to suck with all their warner media tidal tie-ins. last year had 2 or 3 updates that fucked up remote play during their server rebuild. the latest update makes the windows app pull twice the data forwhatever reason.

regarding piracy, its a matter of time before streaming sites use widevine for everything and all anyone will offer is shitty obs screencaps.

That is the same stuff that keeps me away from Emby. The functionality seems solid enough but they are already in bed with corporations. That is kind of why I stick with Subsonic. Norwegian company and they have a pretty good track record of not being dicks in my book.

 

[Marvin]

I've got so much pirated crap that I don't want to lose. Currently on a 4tb platter drive on my desktop. (I've got a second one for backup.) It's slow and shitty, but I can access it with kodi on my TV downstairs.

My next upgrade is throwing several 4TB hard drives in a box and installing FreeNAS on it.

 

[muh_moobs]

Technically this is correct.

The way the laws are written, when you purchase something created by someone else that they retain creative rights to, you're not purchasing ownership. You're purchasing a license to personal use.

That's how it's always been, and how it needs to stay. There certainly are arguments that there needs to be some more flexibility in interpretation in the digital age, but the moral of the story is that physical media is superior.

 

[Idiotron]

You don't usually have to pay for a library card.

Maybe I should have used a different example.
It's like getting a gym membership - you can go there anytime you want and use all the equipment but you don't own anything and they can change things however they want whenever they want.

 

[Ethan Ralphs Micro Penis]

Just make your own online video streaming service :∆)

 

[Pissmaster]

Technically this is correct.

The way the laws are written, when you purchase something created by someone else that they retain creative rights to, you're not purchasing ownership. You're purchasing a license to personal use.

That's how it's always been, and how it needs to stay. There certainly are arguments that there needs to be some more flexibility in interpretation in the digital age, but the moral of the story is that physical media is superior.

And yet, physical media is dying in the age where most people don't realize that buying digital copies isn't the same as buying a disc. It's a fundamental problem with any media when a pirate can provide an objectively better, more reliable product than a retailer.

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I have two of these ugly fuckers stacked on top of each other in my office just for that reason.
Holds 150 discs each and comes with cataloging software.

What is that machine?

 

[NOT Sword Fighter Super]

And yet, physical media is dying in the age where most people don't realize that buying digital copies isn't the same as buying a disc. It's a fundamental problem with any media when a pirate can provide an objectively better, more reliable product than a retailer.


What is that machine?

Dacal DC-300

 

[Driftwood]

This is why I only buy physical media if I actually care about what I am consuming or afraid for its future.

 

[AnOminous]

No, it does not. Misrepresenting the details of a contract is very much illegal. Just like pressuring people into signing contracts without reading them, or using deceptive language in them.

The contract explicitly states that they can do this. You are presumed to have read it when you click the button saying "Yep I've read this." If you do click it and you haven't, you were lying.

 

[murdered meat bag]

This is why I only buy physical media if I actually care about what I am consuming or afraid for its future.

one downside of physical media is that some companies only release SD versions for physical media but sell hd copies for streaming. I know peep show and Dead Like Me is like that. i usually find that to be the case every old niche tv show and every british show. Acorn is doing that exclusively.

 

[Allanon]

Maybe I should have used a different example.
It's like getting a gym membership - you can go there anytime you want and use all the equipment but you don't own anything and they can change things however they want whenever they want.

That's comparable to Netflix. You're paying for access, and everyone knows it. Digital purchases are stylized in a way to make people believe that they've purchased the thing (because they have) and therefore it is theirs now just like going out and buying a dvd or a couch would be. People not owning the Amazon Prime videos they get free access to via Amazon Prime is fine, but anything they have to pay a separate charge for and is treated as if it's a purchase is a purchase. That's why when you go to a movie, you buy tickets, not seats or the movie. (You also keep the tickets, even after you've used them). Stylizing something as a purchase, treating it as a purchase, and telling your customers it is a purchase, but then sticking into the contract 'actually it's not a purchase' should be made illegal.

 

[Idiotron]

anything they have to pay a separate charge for and is treated as if it's a purchase is a purchase.

Yeah, I agree that stuff like charging an additional $30 for just watching the damn Mulan movie was scummy.
Just give the people who paid for it a download link, I guarantee that more people would pay for that.

 

[Basil II]

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How about now?

How is KTorrent compared to QBittorrent?

 

[The Real SVP]

The contract explicitly states that they can do this. You are presumed to have read it when you click the button saying "Yep I've read this." If you do click it and you haven't, you were lying.

I does not matter what the contract says, when they misrepresent the nature or important details of it to convince their victims to sign it.