Culture Amazon Bookstore bans 'Culture of Critique' -

Oglooger

God isn't dead!BUT I'LL GET THAT BASTARD SOME DAY!
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Honestly, though, no matter what one thinks of Hitler's politics the dude was a mediocre at best writer. I don't see how just reading his book could convert anybody to his mindset.
The only people I see who say that are those who read the English translation, not the actual book in German.
This seems more like a translation problem than a writing one.
 

Zaryiu

Nobody important
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it's an interesting read, but the bigger issue here is the idea of the world's largest bookseller banning books for being mean
Yeah it only reinforce my idea of not buying from them because fuck blatant censorship.
Now i still need to find an alternative to buy stuff like books or electronics not found locally for example
 

Lemmingwise

She is wearing pants.
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What else? What other things are supposed to be verboten now?
Only having sex for procreation.

Having a single partner for life.

Not doing drugs.

Not having a tattoo.

Not talking about your fetishes at every opportunity.

Having NPC meme on twitter.

Having pepe meme avatar on youtube.

Doing anything politically succesful on social media that is not aligned with how you're taught to think at universities.

Abstaining from porn.

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Super-Chevy454

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Breitbart posted that article about Amazon banning and censorship. https://www.breitbart.com/tech/2019/04/08/amazon-is-on-a-digital-book-burning-spree/ ( http://archive.li/L0T9t )

Under pressure from left-wing journalists and activists, Amazon is purging right-wing authors from its store, including a book co-authored by English Islam critic and independent commentator Tommy Robinson.
The web retail giant has become the dominant market player in book sales, accounting for nearly 50 percent of physical and 83 percent of e-book sales in the U.S. As such, Amazon has the power to effectively cut an author off from the vast majority of the books market.

Amazon began its new round of purges by targeting the white nationalist fringe. In February, the tech giant banned a number of books from white identitarian Jared Taylor, and a book called The White Nationalist Manifesto by Greg Johnson.

This followed bans on Holocaust revisionist books in 2017, and a purge of all books by controversial pickup blogger and author Daryush “Roosh” Valizadeh in 2018.

As with financial blacklisting, a censorship spree that starts by targeting extreme ideas quickly moves towards the censorship of more mainstream ones. In early March, the online retailer banned Muhammed’s Koran: Why Muslims Kill for Islam, a Chronological Koran and critique of the Islamic religion co-authored by British populist Tommy Robinson.

The book is a chronological reordering of the Islamic Koran, followed by commentary by Robinson and his co-author, Peter McLoughlin. Amazon did not return Breitbart News’ request for an explanation of why the book was banned.

In 2010, Amazon refused to take down a book defending pedophilia on first amendment grounds. “Amazon believes it is censorship not sell certain books simply because we or others believe their message is objectionable,” an Amazon representative told CNBC at the time.

“Amazon does not support or promote hatred or criminal acts, however, we do support the right of every individual to make their own purchasing decisions.”
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Public and media outcry was not enough to pressure Amazon into watering down its commitment to content-neutrality when it came to a pro-pedophile book. But it now takes only the slightest pressure for the tech giant to ban right-wing critiques of religion.

And even before that, Amazon had watered down it’s commitment to “the right of every individual to make their own purchasing decisions.” In 2015, the site banned the sale of all merchandise depicting the Confederate flag.

Amazon doesn’t seem to have a problem with extremist of destructive books in general. Two of the most destructive books in history, Adolf Hitler’s Mein Kampf and The Communist Manifesto by Karl Marx and Friedrich Engels are available for purchase. So too are books by black nationalist Louis Farrakhan, notorious for his racist and anti-semitic comments — so it seems racial hatred isn’t subject to a blanket ban on Amazon either.

I guess not everyone might like that vlog from Styx about Amazon censorship.

One Youtube commenter posted this one, worth to quote.
"The prime goal of censorship is to promote ignorance, whether it is done via lying and bowdlerized school texts or by attacking individual books." ~ Felice Picano Supporting ignorance one step at a time.
 
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Mrs Paul

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While I'm against their decision, I really don't like the idea of calling it a ban, per se, since as a private company, they don't have an obligation to carry it. They're not saying nobody else can read it, just that they won't provide it.


(I mean, how is this any different than the whole bakery thing? Dude doesn't make gay wedding cakes, or "transition cakes" -- does that mean he's banning them?)
 

Stab You in the Back

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While I'm against their decision, I really don't like the idea of calling it a ban, per se, since as a private company, they don't have an obligation to carry it. They're not saying nobody else can read it, just that they won't provide it.
We all understand that "ban" is being used in the colloquial way, and that Amazon has every right to ban the book. The argument is over whether they should.
 

Ebonic Tutor

"Shitposting at any cost."
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While I'm against their decision, I really don't like the idea of calling it a ban, per se, since as a private company, they don't have an obligation to carry it. They're not saying nobody else can read it, just that they won't provide it.


(I mean, how is this any different than the whole bakery thing? Dude doesn't make gay wedding cakes, or "transition cakes" -- does that mean he's banning them?)
Nobody is forcing Amazon to write a book or create a piece of art though?
 

ProgKing of the North

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I'd argue it'd be more like if they sold lesbian wedding cards but refused to stock gay wedding cards.
Just so I understand, in the analogy the lesbian cards are black/other minority supremacist works and the gay cards are white supremacist works?

I get what you're saying, it's dumb and hypocritical, but I don't think the gov should be allowed to force them to sell anything they don't want to sell
 
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Ebonic Tutor

"Shitposting at any cost."
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Just so I understand, in the analogy the lesbian cards are black/other minority supremacist works and the gay cards are white supremacist works?

I get what you're saying, it's dumb and hypocritical, but I don't think the gov should be allowed to force them to sell anything they don't want to sell
I'm saying ban everything like that or ban nothing like that. It's not hard. It's not like you weren't just making the same argument from the opposite side.
 

Ebonic Tutor

"Shitposting at any cost."
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Again, I agree with this as a personal philosophy, I just don't think it should be implemented by force
I just worry a lot of the "That's Racist" or "That's White-Supremacist" arguments are going to start eventually going to start happening against things that are 3-4 degrees away from actual racist things instead of the current 1-2 it seems to be. I mean it's already started kinda happening and it's nerve racking even if it's happening to somebody I'm philosophically opposed to.
 

cecograph

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Again, I agree with this as a personal philosophy, I just don't think it should be implemented by force
The government forcing Amazon to sell the book would worry me far more than Amazon's decision not to sell it. Big fuck off companies are allowed to make dumb ethical decisions if they want. If a big supermarket decides that it will only sell fair-trade coffee, that's their prerogative. This is ethical capitalism 101. Sometimes, the ethical decisions made by these companies will be bad, and we can get pissy at them and boycott or whatever. But talking about "book burning" or "censorship" is really gay.

You could make special exemption for books or for a retailer in Amazon's unique position, but that's a slippery slope. And there's no need. There's no censorship going on here. For fuck's sakes: we've now got more means to distribute books to people than has ever existed in the history of humankind. You can't keep this book out of my hands if I want it.

What's being contested here is the ability of someone to make bank off their shitty book at a particular retail outlet. Sorry, but that's not really a big deal for me, considering my torrenting history and the total contempt for the copyright of digital products it implies.
 

Mrs Paul

Yinzer Kiwi
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I agree, it's a stupid decision, unless of course, it's not making them any money. My personal theory that it just might not be a hot seller. (Because they still sell other white supremacist crap)
 
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