Amber's finances - assumptions galore

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What if Amber used a teaching hospital or university hospital - would it be cheaper or free - ?

Even the university-affiliated hospital in my area wants you to pay *something*. But they can and do get patients treated after going through their financial aid request, via federal subsidies. But, since Big Al has claimed to make a lot of money (and probably does), when they look at her documentation - if she isn't too fucking lazy to put together the paperwork - they would want her to front cash for some portion of the cost for what the expected treatment/procedures would be.

It’s important to remember that AL is an anomaly in that she has done everything possible to avoid having medical insurance or maintain the possibility of getting it in the future. I’m struggling to come up with a good metaphor for her behavior, but it’s bizarre.

Big Al gets a ticket every night for parking on the street between two signs that say "no parking by hydrant". People suggest, repeatedly, that she just go to the parking garage right past that no parking zone and pay for parking there instead of having to pay out all the time for those tickets (and all the shit she's bought). She smugly, and repeatedly, tells people that she could do bolth, pay for her tickets and crap she's bought AND pay for garage parking. But she keeps parking there on the street, and keeps getting tickets. Then one day, the fire department has to break the windows in her car to hook up to the hydrant to battle a fire across the street. Water everywhere inside, windows broken - tsk, the car's a wreck. Guess she should have listened to people and just paid for parking in the garage after all.
 

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The insurance company proposed to him, which he accepted, to have the surgery done in India.
If Amber goes to India for treatment, she'll be worshipped in a field. She'll finally get all the attention she so desperately craves.

If (big if) Amber has cancer, she will do what she does in all facets of her life- the bare minimum. She'll set up a payment plan, get treatment etc .. then bail on the bills the second treatment is finished and hope they don't catch up to her.
 

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And it could have been prevented if she, oh I don’t know, PURCHASED INSURANCE. She easily could have done that. Oh well, I guess eating and hauls were more important.
I remember one comment of the day said this exactly, that instead of $500 Torrid hauls she should buy insurance. Amber’s response was “it doesn’t need to be one or the other, I can do bolth”. And yet, she only did the Torrid hauls.
 

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No one, nobody is left to die! There are community/statec hospitals who treat the uninsured. People like the homeless, who have no money, no ID, etc. I read an article - I’ll see if I can find it,-about a woman like that with kidney cancer. She was treated. It was slow, it took longer for her to get on whatever programs there are, but it is ILLEGAL for a hospital not to treat a patient and it always has been.

Amber presumably has money and an income. That will prevent her going to charity hospitals-until it’s gone. Then she can, or by then she can join an exchange. Because she has money, she will certainly pay, probably everything in the bank and anything of value she owns. But she’ll get treatment.

I think because our insurance rules seem complicated (they aren’t really) this notion of people going untreated took hold. And, a President got elected by lying about it. But it’s not true. If they aren’t treated it’s because they don’t know where to go and haven’t tried. Nobody dies of cancer in this country untreated unless they want to. Chance Carmichael, one of our deathfats, didn’t have insurance (although he lied a few times) and he had long hospital stays, with dieticians, PT, home health.

Amber is vague on her disease. But assuming she has the most common type of cancer, it’s slowgrowing and stage 1. (70% of people with her cancer have that).

if she can, she can do case pay and call hospitals and cancer centers and get different price structures and negotiate. She’s not smart enough, but she could.

The best thing for her would be some hormonal medication to slow it down further, then get on one of the exchanges (Obamacare) in November. January she’ll be able to have treatment and since 2014 they can’t take pre-existing conditions into account. From now until January she should be losing weight so when Jan. Comes around she can safely have surgery. That’s what a smart person would do. She’s not smart, but with dedication she could get down to 300 lbs by January.

She’ll have to play the odds that she has an easy stage 1, because if cancer is into her uterine muscle wall or lymph’s she should have it our faster, or if her histology shows it’s more dangerous. But that isn’t known until after surgery (except histology) One clue is it’s grade 2, if she got that right. That means she maybe could wait safely.

Either way, she’ll get treatment.

But I honestly hope this wipes her out. That is mean, but I remember her flashing $1500 in cash at the same time as being coy about insurance. That money probably went to candles, earrings, snap backs and junk food. That maybe could have paid for a few months or more of insurance (I don’t know Kentucky’s prices) but while I can’t wish death on anybody, I can wish for a little financial justice.

it took a tremendous amount of hubris for a 500 lb women who had money to ignore her health. But she won’t die.
Can doctors choose what treatment a patient gets based on how much money the patient has? Like, instead of a treatment that does a better job of palliating symptoms and increases their lifespan, would an America doctor give them an inferior treatment?
 
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My guess...either a friend of a friend of a friend type deal...or trailer park. There’s really no other option.

Probably a little easier to be a sketchy tenant in a rural area since it's not like landlords have a ton of other people competing to rent the place, as is the case when apartment hunting in any reasonably sized metro area.
 
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Turd Fergusson

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Probably a little easier to be a sketchy tenant in a rural area since it's not like landlords have a ton of other people competing to rent the place, as is the case when apartment hunting in any reasonably sized metro area.
Agree. I think the only thing the landlord did is a criminal check. No grand larceny or homicide and she is good to go.
 
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Of course there are property owning chavs...even in chav central Essex. :) (chav - "It comes from a Romany word, ‘chavi’ which means child and this is quite a well established etymology and it happened in the south east of England that this was borrowed into English and it’s sort of spread from there via the internet and the media and these kinds of things, it’s sort of spread. ")

So the UK / US have very different determinations, ok. Despite her finances I doubt very much she'd be seen as anywhere near middle class in the UK....like I said, a chav through and through.

eta: yeah travellers here are very touchy with what you call them - they see themselves as some sort of "protected class", the majority of the UK feel differently.

Generally in the UK 'Class' is a status that you are born into - You can be born on a council estate and be on a very low income and be 'working class' but then if you won the lottery and money was no object you would always be seen as 'working class'

If you a born middle class and hit hard times and end up jobless in a council flat you would still be middle class - just a middle class drop out
 
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The tl;dr of all this healthcare sperging is that Amber would be infinitely better off were she destitute. Gorging herself on YT for easy $$$ may well have condemned her. If not, she'll lose every last penny, and wind up... destitute, just like she was before, but now she's older, stripped of all assets, and has lifelong medical issues.

I can't think of a more brutally ironic punishment.

also not being 500lbs can avoid alot of these health problems. guess that could be a reason poor people stay fat, they know they can always go to the doctor. those working wouldn't dare risk racking up the medical bills that could be prevented atleast, like this pussy cancer that's going to cost AL everything.
 

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Checking latest events:
-Hambo claims to have really expensive hospital bills and need to upload videos of her filling up her pie hole to make money.
- Same Hambo claims that she purchase a 6k bed, furniture and is living the "High Life" in Lexington
- Smug Lynn claims to no need to worry about hospital bills anymore as she INDEED has Insurance.
The Beast is sure someone will foot her medical bill.... I wonder who?
Any guesses?
 

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Checking latest events:
-Hambo claims to have really expensive hospital bills and need to upload videos of her filling up her pie hole to make money.
- Same Hambo claims that she purchase a 6k bed, furniture and is living the "High Life" in Lexington
- Smug Lynn claims to no need to worry about hospital bills anymore as she INDEED has Insurance.
The Beast is sure someone will foot her medical bill.... I wonder who?
Any guesses?

My theory is still that she bought one of those cancer supplemental insurance policies and didn't read the fine print that says it's just a supplement to cover a limited portion of what your regular insurance doesn't pay and it won't pay if you already had cancer when you bought the policy.
 

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Can doctors choose what treatment a patient gets based on how much money the patient has? Like, instead of a treatment that does a better job of palliating symptoms and increases their lifespan, would an America doctor give them an inferior treatment?

The person you're quoting to is fundamentally incorrect. As for whether doctors give inferior treatments to poorer people: Yeah, but not in a direct way like you're suggesting. It's more that people with lower incomes or no insurance simply can't afford the treatment, or they're forced to take on debt that is life-ruining for them and their families.
 

AmbersCancer

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I'm not from the US so could be way off, but according to this calculator set to Kentucky she earns 210k per year.
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Turd Fergusson

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I'm not from the US so could be way off, but according to this calculator set to Kentucky she earns 210k per year.
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Hmmmm. If this is true, it means that her net income is $17.5 per month. Therefore, her gross income before the YT takes of 45% is almost $32k, or $380k a year. Either she is lying about her income or her taxes. The other reason might be that she is paying also previous years taxes. At the end, something does not seem right.
 

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jobless (Amber's style of Youtubing is not an actual job, regardless of getting paid for it)
Considering that Kristine is an ex-felon and junkie, I'd imagine she was quite jealous that Amber is able to pull in that much money without having an actual job or having to do anything illegal for it.
Hmmmm. If this is true, it means that her net income is $17.5 per month. Therefore, her gross income before the YT takes of 45% is almost $32k, or $380k a year. Either she is lying about her income or her taxes. The other reason might be that she is paying also previous years taxes. At the end, something does not seem right.
She probably did have to play catch up once she finally started to pay taxes, but she didn't claim to be making $10k/month until April of 2018, IIRC, so I'm not sure just how much she'd have in back taxes.
 

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Replying here from the "Why Can't I Be Happy" thread because it seems like a better fit and @Twinkie suffers enough.


I feel like this shotgunning of videos is from her being out of cash manic panic....she just spent a lot of money to move, and even if she did have insurance and if its one she bought into it has a deductible and copays...


This is the manic actions of a broke ass piggy, has anyone peeked at her income estimates recently? I bet from the cancer scare she got a big spike but then it fell.

Well according to Socialblade, she's not doing too badly. She's getting more than she deserves, certainly. But it does look like the days of 10k/month are over. I would guess she's making half that, give or take.

Bad time to get cancer, move to a new, presumably more expensive apartment, and reconnect with your drug addict family...

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SnarlieNarlie

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I get it. But, remember life will find a way, it always does. Amber can’t keep running from her debts forever and her health will catch up to her. The money will run out.

When economies go to shits as the economies are currently on the brink worldwide due to covid lockdowns marketing budgets are the usually among the first positions to be drastically reduced when companies have to cut costs. Sooner or later, maybe even sooner than we all would think today, these ramifications will knock at the door of those who made themselves dependent on things like adsense.
 

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I would think Becky's name is probably primary on lease and utilities- since Fatty has terrible credit. With owed student loans and most likely delinquent credit accounts, I'm sure fatty has terrible credit. And she had judgements against her.
I see what you're saying, but Amber has income, and Becky has none, and has had none for almost 3 years.
 
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