America First with Nicholas J. Fuentes / "Nick the Knife" - Basically just Lauren southern with a love for catboys

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Is Nick gay?

  • Yes

    Votes: 291 58.6%
  • Yes, but only ironically

    Votes: 206 41.4%

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3119967d0c

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I get why Venti defended Nick, she wants to suck the catboi peen real bad. Shapiro defending him... Did the timelines get crossed again? wtf
Why wouldn't he? Shapiro opposed Trump in the run up to the 2016 election because of what he was selling- reduced foreign adventurism, a fair go for the American worker, an end to the policies which enable unscrupulous American businesses to benefit from foreign serf labor.

Trump hasn't delivered on this, he's done exactly what Paul Ryan or Shapiro wanted while being rude. He's even freed one of Shapiro's coreligionists who employed hundreds of illegal aliens. So Shapiro is now supporting him despite Trump's lack of decorum. Fuentes is supporting Trump despite his failure to attempt to deliver on anything he promises, so now they are allies.
 

CDWLTY

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I can't stand the deplatforming nonsense. It's a total bitch move and it makes the tard cum harder to find.
I don't have any love for nick, but I judge people on how they treat their enemies. The fact that the effete potato muncher declared war on someone who's ostensibly on his side (?) like this is childish. I thought he was part of the hyperintellectual youtube masterminds? I'd guess they align on a lot of policy issues, but because someone said meany-mean words it's open season to use the same tactics they bitch about nonstop? It's like in East Germany when you'd invent some made up reason to get your landlord hauled off to a firing squad because you had a fight. Soon enough someone will sic the police on you.
 

Lord Akira

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Venti chimed in
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Shapiro did to too, his response honestly surprised me
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Spencer's response
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Vaush's take
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Pretty interesting takes from Spencer and Shapiro of all people, I wonder how JF will react knowing that his favorite guest is not onboard with his supposed antics. I think this marks the beginning of the stagnation period in Nick's e-celeb career, he'll have an initial boost from the interest generated in his deplatforming, but will fade to persona non grata once that cools off in my opinion. Or if he's smart, he went the Alex Jones route and set up his own infrastructure to keep the grift going, but I don't think the paypiggery has given him that much of a war-chest to do so.
 

Leominster

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I wouldn't be surprised if it turned out to be all manufactured outrage.
Nick saw the ban coming after his second strike, and all the sudden, this massive drama/betrayal happens.

They're both going to profit from the drama, and it's a good distraction from the fact that Fuentes goes on gay dates with a pedophile....
and it's not like JF's going to tarnish his reputation any further by doing this, he seems pretty proud of being petty and vindictive.
It's not manufactured outrage. Nick and JF have been trading slights against each other for like a while now. IIRC, they debated about the 2018 missile strikes against Syria. JF was against the Groyper Wars. JF has a close relationship with Richard Spencer, and Spencer and Fuentes got beef with each other.

jf seems to think he will not be taken off YT because he's "better optics" and has toned down the jew-naming etc on his videos. he is delusional. YT will ban anyone remotely sympathetic to these types of views.
Which is funny because Nick thought he had better optics than X/Y/Z people who have been deplatformed. They're gonna come for JF eventually, but he's too oblivious to see that.

People who hold the same beliefs as Nick, JF, etc. shouldn't make it easier for people to justify them being deplatformed by telling edgy jokes or cosplaying as Nazis, but at the end of the day it really doesn't matter. People who advocate those kind of positions are always gonna be deplatformed, even if they have the best optics.

I get why Venti defended Nick, she wants to suck the catboi peen real bad. Shapiro defending him... Did the timelines get crossed again? wtf
Someone earlier in this thread tried to say that Nick fucked Venti. That's obviously bullshit because if she did, she would never be able to STFU about having taken Nick's virginity.

Pretty interesting takes from Spencer and Shapiro of all people, I wonder how JF will react knowing that his favorite guest is not onboard with his supposed antics. I think this marks the beginning of the stagnation period in Nick's e-celeb career, he'll have an initial boost from the interest generated in his deplatforming, but will fade to persona non grata once that cools off in my opinion. Or if he's smart, he went the Alex Jones route and set up his own infrastructure to keep the grift going, but I don't think the paypiggery has given him that much of a war-chest to do so.
Nick has appeared on many InfoWars shows, including ones where Alex Jones was the host, in the last year. He also went on Milo's show, which is a property of Gavin McInnes' Censored.TV. Gavin's network also has a show hosted by Laura Loomer and Soph uploads her videos videos there.

Nick can't afford to go the Alex Jones route. Alex's ability to rise the way he has really isn't possible these days. He got his start on public-access television in the 90s and then switched to radio. Then in the 2000s, he started broadcasting from his home via the internet. Along the way he built up a massive, loyal following that wastes their money on InfoWar's products.

Streaming video is extremely expensive, he's gonna have to partner with a group like InfoWars or Censored.TV. I think that's why he's been making connections with them for the last year. That's why he went on Milo's show.

The question is will those networks put restrictions on what Nick is allowed to say, specifically regarding the JQ, which is a central aspect of his ideology.

I think he'd probably prefer to be a part of InfoWars. That would be a more respectable decision over Censored.TV, IMO. Alex Jones has many dumb beliefs and he sells a lot of sheisty products, but he doesn't give me the same kind of negative vibe that Gavin does.

What Gavin let happen to those Proud Boys in New York is disgusting. Him and the organization he created is why those men are in prison. For those who don't know, some Proud Boys got into a fight with ANTIFA outside the Metropolitan Republican Club in New York where Gavin was holding an event. The ANTIFA members refused to cooperate with police and didn't testify. Two of the Proud Boys got 4 years in prison.

https://www.nytimes.com/2018/10/14/nyregion/proud-boys-nyc-antifa-fight.html (http://archive.li/yfYC7)
https://www.nytimes.com/2019/10/22/nyregion/proud-boys-antifa-sentence.html (http://archive.li/zp91l)

Gavin acted like he had their back, but he didn't. He stepped down from leading the Proud Boys under the guise of it being something he was doing to help the Proud Boys that were being tried. In reality, it was just to cover his own ass because law enforcement groups (IIRC, the FBI) were considering labeling the Proud Boys a gang, and if that happened it would open Gavin up to RICO charges.

Gavin consistently bitched about money and supposedly did a fundraiser for them while he lived in a multi-million dollar house and wore a Patek Philippe watch.

Gavin didn't spend a dime in paying news outlets or a PR firm to set the brand of the Proud Boys straight. He let newspapers call the Proud Boys white supremacists without fighting back. One of the men charged and convicted, John Kinsman, has a black wife and bi-racial child.

Another reason why I think Nick would lean toward joining InfoWars is because he's always liked Alex Jones and aped some of Jones' public-access TV bits. The first example that comes to mind is on Halloween, Jones would carve a pumpkin live on air. Nick has done that several times too.

Also, this could be why Nick has started to peddle dumb conspiracy theories like "dinosaurs aren't real, fossil records are forgeries."
 

NickoTrapHouse

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They're entertaining for the drama they create but there really isn't anything more pathetic than the right-wing e-celeb who thinks their method of living off donations is the correct one and will lead to anything meaningful, much less a political revolution.

Free speech didn't matter to people the first hundred deplatformings, it isn't going to matter now.
 

3119967d0c

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Assuming Fuentes is legit and not just a scammer, I'm confused about what he thinks the endgame of his own ideology is. A gay mexican kid who is so short that it could arguably be considered a disability....wouldn't he be one of the first people up against the wall if he gets his dream far-right regime?
Principally because he isn't pushing for any sort of 'far-right' regime. He's promoting Donald Trump, the most pro-gay President in American history.
 

b0o0pinsn0o0tz

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Assuming Fuentes is legit and not just a scammer, I'm confused about what he thinks the endgame of his own ideology is. A gay mexican kid who is so short that it could arguably be considered a disability....wouldn't he be one of the first people up against the wall if he gets his dream far-right regime?
Honestly like half of /pol/ would die during the day of the rope or whatever. I suspect they all know it deep down though.
 

NickoTrapHouse

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Assuming Fuentes is legit and not just a scammer, I'm confused about what he thinks the endgame of his own ideology is. A gay mexican kid who is so short that it could arguably be considered a disability....wouldn't he be one of the first people up against the wall if he gets his dream far-right regime?
You do understand that the Germans were unique among far-right regimes for having such an intense focus on racialist ideology, right? They actually made the Italian fascists more racialist because they were calling the shots. Nick would probably be fine with a South American style junta government where light-skinned guys like him are on top.

The far-right are delusional goofballs, but they're largely just weirdo authoritarians who want to shut down their political enemies from having power. I've only really seen them get violently mad at Jews more than anyone else.
 

Leominster

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They're entertaining for the drama they create but there really isn't anything more pathetic than the right-wing e-celeb who thinks their method of living off donations is the correct one and will lead to anything meaningful, much less a political revolution.

Free speech didn't matter to people the first hundred deplatformings, it isn't going to matter now.
Exactly. And on a long enough timeline, all these people get deplatformed from payment processors, so they won't even be able to live off donations.

The only issue these people and their activist organizations should be pushing for is heavily regulating payment processors so they have to serve all customers who are not engaged in illegal activity. Or maybe get behind the left's push to allow the USPS to do banking services (and card processing) because they're a government organization and legally (theoretically, at least) would have to serve all law-abiding people regardless of their speech or they'd run afoul in regards to the First Amendment.

That's an issue you could coalesce almost everyone around. Nicker Nation needs to face the fact that immigration laws in America aren't ever going to change to be like they were pre-1965. Fight for something that's actually achievable.

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https://twitter.com/NickJFuentes/status/1124450565528879105 (http://archive.li/K6cxS)

Evidently Nick can allow Trump to placate him with cheap talk because the man didn't fulfill any of his legislative campaign promises and Nick is still shilling for him to win in 2020.

Assuming Fuentes is legit and not just a scammer, I'm confused about what he thinks the endgame of his own ideology is. A gay mexican kid who is so short that it could arguably be considered a disability....wouldn't he be one of the first people up against the wall if he gets his dream far-right regime?
Maybe if pol spergs ran the regime, but if a far-right regime came to fruition they'd never be the ones in charge. The Third Reich and Fascist Italy had known homosexuals and Jews in the NSDAP and National Fascist Party. The Waffen-SS had non-white and Muslim divisions, some of which were volunteers while others were conscripts.
 
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Leominster

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The biggest irony for the far-right is that a Sanders presidency would be better for them (assuming he'd even be able to get his agenda passed which is a big LOL) than Trump or any Republican they think they could influence because Sanders would leave them in a better financial situation to operate in.
Based on social media postings, there's a sizeable group of far-right people who plan on voting for Sanders. Most of those people seem to live in Midwestern swing states too. Those are people Nick classifies as wignats. I'm not saying it's a huge amount of people because social media isn't reflective of the general population, but they're people in the right states. Remember that Trump won in 2016 by a very slim margin because he got a few thousand votes more than Hillary in a couple of Midwestern states that normally vote blue in presidential elections.

Their logic is solid. They don't like immigration and gay shit. Well, Trump supports immigration and gay shit and so does Bernie. But Bernie wants to also fuck over corporations that hate them and implement a bunch of economic policies that will help them. Nick hasn't been able to give a good argument against this kind of logic.

Nick needs Trump to win in 2020 so he can keep dispensing faux whitepills to his paypiggies. If Bernie wins the presidency (assuming he's the nominee) then episodes of America First are just going to be blackpills and that's probably not gonna bring in the same donation dollars.

Nick tying America First to Trump was a bad political move. They're in a position where regardless if Trump wins or loses, America First loses. Trump isn't going to fulfill any of his promises on immigration or tech censorship if he gets a second term.

I think what they want is to delay the inevitable by four years. The inevitable being that after Trump leaves office, the GOP is going to go back to the same political strategy and tactics from the George W. Bush era. Republican voters don't want that. They want things like immigration control. But just like Nick, they're willing to vote for whoever the GOP candidate is because he's not a Democrat. Nick and his fellow right-wing ecelebs like Patrick Casey have had four years to get candidates into office and try to shape the GOP. They failed. They were always going to fail. Look at who funds the GOP, FFS. They will never be able to remake it in their image.
 

KiwiJoe

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Does Nick actually like Trump at all?
While Nick definitly supports Trump, he doesn't seem to like him too much either ever since 2016. I'm pretty sure it's more of a cynical kind of support. As in "Eh, Trump is a zionist stooge but you know what, we have nothing better than him!" and I think Nick and his followers still saying MAGA/KAG 2020 and wearing MAGA hats are only doing it for optics, I'm guessing trying to convince moderate conservatives into joining the Nicker Nation by having the commonality of Trump?
Because Nick criticizes Trump a lot, and during the Groyper Wars, Don Jr. was trolled as well.
I also checked a few Groyper/Nicker twitter accounts since his support base is mostly on Twitter and while I know it is not the most accurate demographic, it does make a good chunk of it.
From what I saw, the general consensus is that Trump is only liked in a utilitarian way because they believe that Trump is the only good option left for 'conservatism in the US.
 
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