America should not have engaged in either World War

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We did NOT join because of the Lusitania -- indeed, we didn't declare war until 2 years later, dumbass. Try the Zimmermann Telegram.

That's not to say that there was some lingering anger over the sinking, but it wasn't what made us enter the War.
The funniest thing about the Zimmerman telegram will always be the fact that Zimmerman confirmed its authenticity himself, free of prompting. What the fuck did he expect to happen after that?
 

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The funniest thing about the Zimmerman telegram will always be the fact that Zimmerman confirmed its authenticity himself, free of prompting. What the fuck did he expect to happen after that?

We did NOT join because of the Lusitania -- indeed, we didn't declare war until 2 years later, dumbass. Try the Zimmermann Telegram.

That's not to say that there was some lingering anger over the sinking, but it wasn't what made us enter the War.

The American entry in ww1 was some deep state finagling instead of something genuine. At this point Mexico was a broken country barely held together by a tinpot president. The Mexicans literally let an American expedition into their country to hunt for bandits.... after America caused a brutal civil war in their country that killed more people than any war in the history of the western hemisphere.
 

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Counterpoint: Spanking the shit out of an honest to God despot is the best thing America has done in 100 years and it's a fucking shame we didn't decide to make a legacy out of it. For a decade we turned it into the national industry and frankly looking at things internally and externally now, we should've just kept right on going after Germany surrendered.
 

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Counterpoint: Spanking the shit out of an honest to God despot is the best thing America has done in 100 years and it's a fucking shame we didn't decide to make a legacy out of it. For a decade we turned it into the national industry and frankly looking at things internally and externally now, we should've just kept right on going after Germany surrendered.
Generally, carrying out a campaign of genocide after a country has surrendered makes you the despot.
 

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No one said that about the Poles after WWII

Most people view the USSR as despotic. Polish people even use the USSR running their country as excuse to say that all of that land doesn't count and they need $$$ reparations.
 

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Most people view the USSR as despotic. Polish people even use the USSR running their country as excuse to say that all of that land doesn't count and they need $$$ reparations.
No the poles in 45 committed a genocide against ethnic germans in poland