American Impeachment/25th Amendment Watch 2021 - If, at first, you don't convict, try, try again

[Glad I couldn't help]

After the … let's call the "Recent Unpleasantness" in the US Capitol, people are called the immediate legal removal of Donald J. Trump from the Presidency of the USA.

These include Gov. Phil Scott of Vermont, Republican but anti-Trumper (voted for Biden in 2020), Rep. Alexandra Ocasio-Cortez, along with various other congresscritters. Various left-wing media outlets, like The Nation and Reason are also called for removal. Finally, The National Association of Manufacturers has called on Vice-President Pence to condier invoking the 25th Amendment to remove Trump from power.

I should note that US military official were waiting from VP Pence to give the go-ahead to deploy the National Guard, so might be already happening in an informal manner.

The New York Times has an editorial calling for "consequences" for Trump, either impeachment or regular criminal charges.

EDIT: List of Rep pushing for Impeachment 2:

-Blumenaeur -Bourdeaux -Bowman -Bush -Cicilline -Clark -Cohen -Coleman -Cooper -Crist -Hardy -Jayapal -Jones -Kahele -Lieu -Markey -Moore -Moulton -Ocasio-Cortez -Omar -Pocan -Pressley -Takano -Tlaib -Trahan -Wexton

 

[Fanatical Pragmatist]

>literally has 14 days left in office
>the left: "IMPEEEEAAACCCHHHH"

 

[Glad I couldn't help]

>literally has 14 days left in office
>the left: "IMPEEEEAAACCCHHHH"

I think the important thing for the left is that Trump be barred from running again in 2024.

A former Presidential advisior motion of censure is likely, not impeachment.

 

[UselessIdiot]

Yeah, this will surely pacify and calm down the right.

No wonder everyone hates Congress.

 

[Glad I couldn't help]

The Gov. of Illinois (D) is also calling for impeachment.

The Washington Post is all calling for impeachment.

Note I don't think it will succed, but I do wonder how it will effect how the GOP will handle Trump in the remaining days of his Presidency.

 

[Pompano Mike]

The goal is to make it impossible for anyone outside of anointed American nobility to have even the slightest possibility of holding office. Trump being elected in 2016 was one of the few truly off-script political shocker moments that any of us are likely to see in our lifetime. The establishment has just spent four years bending all of its efforts to completely ruining him both personally and as a brand to be associated with (a goal that he himself has provided no small assistance in achieving). After today's shenanigans, I think they might have just pulled it off, but we'll see what comes of all these machinations.

 

[Mariposa Electrique]

I think the important thing for the left is that Trump be barred from running again in 2024.

A former Presidential advisior motion of censure is likely, not impeachment.

I like Trump, but he's not running again. Trump can barely run now.

 

[The Last Stand]

I like Trump, but he's not running again. Trump can barely run now.

After what happened. He's done.

The media, his fanbase, a vindicate party, himself: he caused his own image to be tarnished.

I hope it was worth it, everybody.

 

[DeadFish]

After what happened. He's done.

The media, his fanbase, a vindicate party, himself: he caused his own image to be tarnished.

I hope it was worth it, everybody.

Ever read about Roman history?
Where various groups would force someone to be their emperor?

Trump is like that. He isnt the movement. He just happened to be the only lighting rod available to channel it.

Sometimes its the man that starts the movement. In this case its the movement that selects the man. If the man selected doesnt vibe with the movement then hes out

 

[NOT Sword Fighter Super]

This is why I fucking said don't protest irl for this shit in the other thread.

 

[Uncle Warren]

After what happened. He's done.

The media, his fanbase, a vindicate party, himself: he caused his own image to be tarnished.

I hope it was worth it, everybody.

If anything it was funny.

 

[The Last Stand]

This is why I fucking said don't protest irl for this shit in the other thread.

Everybody do whatever he says for now on.

 

[Pee Cola]

>literally has 14 days left in office
>the left: "IMPEEEEAAACCCHHHH"

I think the important thing for the left is that Trump be barred from running again in 2024.

It won't be the left stopping Trump from running again in 2024. Any remaining political capital he had with the GOP has all but evaporated over the past 24 hours. If only he'd just accepted the election result - irrespective of any feelings or doubts he has about it - and started working quietly in the background on 2024...

Yes I know Trump could run as an independent... but nobody takes independent presidential candidates seriously.

 

[Fromtheblackdepths]

Everybody do whatever he says for now on.

But I don't want to invade the Koopa Kingdom.

 

[NOT Sword Fighter Super]

It won't be the left stopping Trump from running again in 2024. Any remaining political capital he had with the GOP has all but evaporated over the past 24 hours. If only he'd just accepted the election result - irrespective of any feelings or doubts he has about it - and started working quietly in the background on 2024...

Yes I know Trump could run as an independent... but nobody takes independent presidential candidates seriously.

>working quietly
Does that sound like Trump to you at all?

 

[Glad I couldn't help]

YouGov has released a poll in the attack on the Capitol. Of relevance here is if Trump should be removed from office. It looks like a mostly partisan split.

There rumors going about that the Trump cabinet is thinking of evoking the 25th Amendment. Dunno if that's true, but it does some air time on Fox News.

Yes I know Trump could run as an independent... but nobody takes independent presidential candidates seriously.

He could make an independent run for the sole purpose of exacting revenge on the Republicans who "betrayed" him.

Maybe not likely, but totally within character.

 

[Fanatical Pragmatist]

It won't be the left stopping Trump from running again in 2024. Any remaining political capital he had with the GOP has all but evaporated over the past 24 hours. If only he'd just accepted the election result - irrespective of any feelings or doubts he has about it - and started working quietly in the background on 2024...

And the GOP has lost an excessive amount of political capital with Trump's base.

Although at this point so has Trump...

 

[UselessIdiot]

After what happened. He's done.

The media, his fanbase, a vindicate party, himself: he caused his own image to be tarnished.

I hope it was worth it, everybody.

It really doesn't matter. Half the country or more was highly dissatisfied with the direction the country has been heading in since the 2000s. That's not going to magically change when Trump is off on some tropical island and Obama's vice president is installed. Who cares about Trump's image?

 

[Pee Cola]

And the GOP has lost an excessive amount of political capital with Trump's base.

Although at this point so has Trump...

It's classic lose-lose.

I can see what Trump was trying to achieve and how he was able to bring so many people on board to support his vision; at least at the beginning. The thing is that one needs to fully understand the rules before one can go about breaking them. He didn't seem to understand them when we was elected, and he didn't really seem to learn that many along the way.

Whether it's hubris, ego, short-term vision, lack of impulse control or a combination of all these factors, Trump has done himself and the GOP a great disservice IMHO. I'm not so much angry at anyone as disappointed for the USA right now.

 

[Shitpiss Babylord]

After what happened. He's done.

The media, his fanbase, a vindicate party, himself: he caused his own image to be tarnished.

I hope it was worth it, everybody.

It was tremendously entertaining.