American Impeachment/25th Amendment Watch 2021 - If, at first, you don't convict, try, try again

What will happen to Donald Trump in the next two weeks?

  • The House of Representatives impeaches and the Senate convicts

    Votes: 23 8.6%
  • The House of Representatives impeaches and the Senate acquits

    Votes: 17 6.3%
  • The US Cabinet invokes the 25th amendment

    Votes: 11 4.1%
  • House of Representative and/or Senate censures the President

    Votes: 14 5.2%
  • President Trump resigns

    Votes: 11 4.1%
  • Trump continues as President until Jan. 20, with Biden becoming President afterwards

    Votes: 165 61.3%
  • Trump finds a way to continue being President after Jan. 20

    Votes: 28 10.4%

  • Total voters
    269
  • Poll closed .
I wonder if they had Biden execute a flurry of EOs so that when he becomes unfit to be president (which is within the next six months probably given his mental condition), Harris can more easily distance herself from them.
That's probably it. Biden was all about flushing MAGA and Trump out of the system. And now Kamala can move to cange America into the progressive utopia that was supposed to manifest in 2016. I fully expect the next Democrat candidate after Harris to be ab AOC type that can be kept more on a proverbial leash.
 

Dergint

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I wonder if they had Biden execute a flurry of EOs so that when he becomes unfit to be president (which is within the next six months probably given his mental condition), Harris can more easily distance herself from them.
I was thinking it was so the legislative branch could get what they wanted without voting or worrying about their constituents disapproving - like why they wanted secret votes for the impeachment - but that makes sense too. Also seems much more manageable since he's proxying for fewer people.
 

Mr Cuddles

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That's probably it. Biden was all about flushing MAGA and Trump out of the system. And now Kamala can move to cange America into the progressive utopia that was supposed to manifest in 2016. I fully expect the next Democrat candidate after Harris to be ab AOC type that can be kept more on a proverbial leash.

Biden was just a trojan horse. Kamala is so bad that they couldn't rig her through the primaries. They have to flush MAGA out of the system as their own politics are unpopular and they know it. What matters now is how the republicans are going to shape up. Personally im optimistic that the next 4 years won't be kind to progressives.
 
Biden was just a trojan horse. Kamala is so bad that they couldn't rig her through the primaries. They have to flush MAGA out of the system as their own politics are unpopular and they know it. What matters now is how the republicans are going to shape up. Personally im optimistic that the next 4 years won't be kind to progressives.
Here’s the thing: the Republicans in office now are perfectly willing to lay down and let the Democrats walk over them as long as their donations keep coming in and their positions are secured. In addition, everyone in politics are so obsessed with image and PR and optics that the second you mention racism and bigotry, they’ll nope the fuck out. MAGA looks to be as good as dead, and Democrats will spend the rest of their lives killing it as many times as it takes.
 

JosephStalin

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If they can they'll go for some sort of sympathy boost and as close to the midterm elections as possible. Maybe Biden will "have a mild stroke" or "heart attack" or something and they'll try to gain votes from it. Anything to boost Harris' chances.

If they can't hold on that long they'll just make the best of whatever they can. It's not like the Media will call them on it or look closely.

Would love to know how they're handling Biden behind the scenes. Like he comes into a meeting, shakes some hands sits there for the first quarter of an hour "to get things settled in" and then leaves with "she got this." In fact, you know they'll try and spin this as a positive when it comes time for transition saying "she's already been filling in for Joe a lot so she has the presidential experience already".

They simply don't have the time. You can only have one person speaking as President. Biden obviously cannot do it. You don't want to have foreign leaders, especially Putin, Xi, Kim Jong Un, and whoever is in charge in Iran not knowing who is really in charge. One of the best ways in the world to have an otherwise-manageable international incident turn into something much worse.

In the past there was nervousness in Washington whenever it took a while to name a new Soviet leader. You don't think Moscow, Beijing, Tehran and P'yongyang aren't concerned, and asking each other what the fuck is going on in Washington? Jesus...

These idiots in Washington need to get off the dime and invoke the 25th Amendment ASAP. Having an official leadership vacuum in the Oval Office is very bad, all the way around.
 

ForTheHoard

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MAGA looks to be as good as dead, and Democrats will spend the rest of their lives killing it as many times as it takes.
That's probably a little hasty. The left was positive that Obama getting elected was the death of conservatism, and a lot of progressives and conservatives thought that Hillary Clinton losing was the death of neo-liberalism. MAGA as a brand will probably get co-opted like the Tea Party did and get dragged down by the fringe personalities. I don't see centrist ideals or right leaning populism going anywhere for at least another 2 elections.
 

introvertedobserver

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Six months? If Harris is calling foreign leaders I'm thinking thirty days. Joe is not fit NOW for office, has taken everything the man has to do what he's doing now. Joe wants to do the job but mentally and physically cannot do it.
Nah, they'll keep everything completely under wraps until close to the 2 year mark. She wants a full decade as president.
 
Nah, they'll keep everything completely under wraps until close to the 2 year mark. She wants a full decade as president.
She better hope China doesn't come in and fully establish America as the puppet constituent republic administrative unit that Beijing has grooming America to be before then. Or come knocking during her reign.
 

Aldeland

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Nah, they'll keep everything completely under wraps until close to the 2 year mark. She wants a full decade as president.
With how long FDR was able to keep the polio thing under wraps, without almost total control of the media; I'm sure Joe could die tomorrow and they could weekend at Bernie's him for 2 years.

Edit: Just make a Tupac hologram of him lmao.
 

Super-Chevy454

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Regarding the "mentally unfit to hold office" thing: keep in mind that Reagan served a full two terms despite arguably being on the decline when he entered office and undeniably being in the throes of senility by the time he departed it
Reagan was 69 years old when he became president. I think his senility beginned on his second term.

Btw, better take reservations for the Third Impeachment show. https://www.americanthinker.com/art..._for_third_annual_trump_impeachment_show.html

Back in the late 1930s, one of the movies’ best box office attractions was the Andy Hardy series starring adolescent stars Mickey Rooney and Judy Garland. For the Woke Generation for whom history seems to have begun around 2009 with an occasional flashback to 1619, America was a very much different place.

The nation was in its tenth year of the Great Depression, without stimulus checks to ease the pain, and the reward for Americans’ perseverance and endurance would soon be exotic travel to faraway places with strange sounding names -- Tarawa, Normandy, Anzio, and the island paradise of Iwo Jima.

In spite of their duress, these denizens of whistle-by country, the grandparents of today’s Deplorables, loved their country, cherished their flag, respected their government (mostly), and valued their neighbors, even if some of them rooted for the Yankees or voted Republican or put sugar on their grits.

In those trying times which today’s generation will never know, the movies were a temporary respite from harsh reality. Andy Hardy (Mickey Rooney) was the All-American boy, and Judy Garland was the girl next door. In their sequential struggles against a teenager’s travails, when every hope seemed lost, they would truck out an updated deus ex machina to reverse their fortunes. Someone would holler out “Let’s put on a show!” Whereupon in someone’s garage, or the school gym, or a barn, these teen-age thespians would do their song and dance routine, and all their world would be made well again.


Well, today’s Democrat party and its front man, the superannuated yet intellectually prepubescent Biden Administration, have created a modern revival of those musicals. No, not a minstrel show, which is banned as racism unless you are the governor of Virginia. Now, whenever political fortunes start looking bleak and the world starts noticing their incompetence, Pelosi or Schumer or Nadler or Schiff will yell out “Let’s put on a show!” or in political lingo, “Let’s impeach Trump!”

The garage gets replaced by the more ornate Senate chamber, the dance routines devolve into a two-abreast funeral processional, and the script is deceptively edited extracts, but the plot is the same -- Let’s impeach Trump!
 

Michael Jacks0n

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Regarding the "mentally unfit to hold office" thing: keep in mind that Reagan served a full two terms despite arguably being on the decline when he entered office and undeniably being in the throes of senility by the time he departed it
Reagan was 69 years old when he became president. I think his senility beginned on his second term.
Whether Ronnie was actually senile or not, one thing's definitely for sure: he could speak clearly and form coherent sentences for at least his 1st term. Joe couldn't even form a coherent sentence during any of his campaign speeches, and any NPC that says "we're returning to normalcy and no longer an embarrassing country" is seriously full of shit.
 

TFT-A9

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Whether Ronnie was actually senile or not, one thing's definitely for sure: he could speak clearly and form coherent sentences for at least his 1st term. Joe couldn't even form a coherent sentence during any of his campaign speeches, and any NPC that says "we're returning to normalcy and no longer an embarrassing country" is seriously full of shit.
He wasn't quite the same as his gubernatorial self, that much I know.
 

JosephStalin

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Whether Ronnie was actually senile or not, one thing's definitely for sure: he could speak clearly and form coherent sentences for at least his 1st term. Joe couldn't even form a coherent sentence during any of his campaign speeches, and any NPC that says "we're returning to normalcy and no longer an embarrassing country" is seriously full of shit.
Was just talking with my brother, who was watching the news. He said Joe went straight up the steps of Air Force One when departing, not stopping at the top to wave goodbye, as Presidents normally do. My brother also said there was a man at his elbow all the way up the stairs - my guess, to catch Joe if he fell. Believe it was all Joe could do mentally just to get up the stairs.

If Harris was smart, she would have our backchannel guys and gals at the UN quietly inform Moscow, Beijing, Tehran, and P'yongyang's backchannel people that the US nuclear arsenal is in fully-capable hands, that Biden won't be able to "push the button" on them for no reason.
 

Aldeland

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Was just talking with my brother, who was watching the news. He said Joe went straight up the steps of Air Force One when departing, not stopping at the top to wave goodbye, as Presidents normally do. My brother also said there was a man at his elbow all the way up the stairs - my guess, to catch Joe if he fell. Believe it was all Joe could do mentally just to get up the stairs.

If Harris was smart, she would have our backchannel guys and gals at the UN quietly inform Moscow, Beijing, Tehran, and P'yongyang's backchannel people that the US nuclear arsenal is in fully-capable hands, that Biden won't be able to "push the button" on them for no reason.
It still amazes me that people actually voted for this guy.
 

Scale Smerch

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Was just talking with my brother, who was watching the news. He said Joe went straight up the steps of Air Force One when departing, not stopping at the top to wave goodbye, as Presidents normally do. My brother also said there was a man at his elbow all the way up the stairs - my guess, to catch Joe if he fell. Believe it was all Joe could do mentally just to get up the stairs.

Funnily enough that reminds of Inauguration Day and the Presidential walk from the Capitol over to the White House. If I remember right newly sworn-in Presidents always do the walk (cannot recall what Trump did), but Biden and family rode in the limo the entire way. Some might say that was a precaution (don't know which scapegoated Proud Boy white supremacist NG/Marine will try to take a shot with his imaginary bullets), but you know who did walk? Why Harris of course, with family in tow. For a President supposedly physically fit and mentally capable, there sure are a lot of strange decisions in how Biden is choosing to engage with the public.

And if anyone thinks that'll change over time, just note that Biden is unlikely to have an actual face-to-face with any foreign official for a long time. Covid has a purpose beyond benefiting big business, who knew.

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CarlosDanger

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It still amazes me that people actually voted for this guy.
Printers and dead people don't really have a conscience.

Funnily enough that reminds of Inauguration Day and the Presidential walk from the Capitol over to the White House. If I remember right newly sworn-in Presidents always do the walk (cannot recall what Trump did), but Biden and family rode in the limo the entire way. Some might say that was a precaution (don't know which scapegoated Proud Boy white supremacist NG/Marine will try to take a shot with his imaginary bullets), but you know who did walk? Why Harris of course, with family in tow. For a President supposedly physically fit and mentally capable, there sure are a lot of strange decisions in how Biden is choosing to engage with the public.
Trump did the walk as well, Bush did it even as some protesters tried to fight the police.

 
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