Inactive Amy Carlson / Mother God / Gaia - Mom-cult leader who used to be a McDonald's manager, heard voices and decided to leave family and job to form a cult
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I’m late. But why the fuck is her face the color of a dirty vacuum filter
99.99% probability that it's "argyria" which is the irreversible blue-greying of skin from colloidal silver consumption.I’m late. But why the fuck is her face the color of a dirty vacuum filter
I think she's actually ascended. Something really serious is happening. Super short live stream today after a phone call came in. Pretty sure aurora and hope are with jason and amy.
I wonder if she ever actually went to a hospital or just- died there without medical intervention?
I dont have any proof yet. Ill post when i do. Fb is a better resource than the skype as of rn. I dont do telegram.
Anybody with better/more info please share. Im 96% sure amys gone now. Jeri and bobbi both cried onstream. I guess we will find out in the morning stream. If they do one.
I wonder what will happen?
I wonder if she ever actually went to a hospital or just- died there without medical intervention?
I dont have any proof yet. Ill post when i do. Fb is a better resource than the skype as of rn. I dont do telegram.
Anybody with better/more info please share. Im 96% sure amys gone now. Jeri and bobbi both cried onstream. I guess we will find out in the morning stream. If they do one.
I wonder what will happen?
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Well at least her "cult" sounds like it's dedicated to love and world peace - though I wonder if she actually ends up exerting a lot of narcissitic control over her followers behind the veneer.
Um, that's exactly what she does.
I was going to mark this rainbows. It didnt feel right tho. Idk what will happen. Pretty sure theyre live now. They always do a morning and afternoon stream. I wonder how long theyll hold this silence for.
You can find the lives on youtube, twitch and facebook if anybodys curious. Also telegram. All are under lovehaswon. Not tonsure about telegram, i would think its the same tho.
This isnt just innocent new age hippy shit tho. Ill try and find a documentary or something later today. Its altogether alarming. These people made this their entire life. Gave up good jobs and familys and marriages. They will feel so lost.
You seem very interested in this group. Do you have more insight? "Mom" appears on nearly on her way out,or on the verge of a transition as it were. My hope for all involved in cults is that they be reconciled with the a functional life as they choose it. Including extended family, friends and social life outside the group if they choose. That they be in charge of their own physical health and other bodily choices.
I'm also really fascinated by cults. This one baffles me. "Mom" seems like a stoned idiot. Why would anyone see her as guru? Are they projecting their own "love is one" thing onto her?
Im super confused to be very honest. On the morning stream they said she was feeling stronger. Healing. It seems one fractal is moving out of one of the houses in Colorado.
I really dont have very much insight. Like you, ive always been interested in cults. What drew me in was also- wtf does anybody follow her? So i began watching the streams. Theres a good subreddit with tons of info about them as well as a community to help anybody who leaves and needs help and resources getting home. It seems a decent network ran by ex members and family of current members.
Amy wasnt always like this. She had kids a husband a job. She was also very pretty. Heres a few links to youtube vids.
https://youtu.be/MRxD3eH19hE - the vice doc
https://youtu.be/hOOv4Zkgu6s - dr phil
https://youtu.be/LT2HwJ2dbEs - boojoo bantons guys kid and his wife ask amy and jason questions
https://youtu.be/1GsbjMFF8WA - an ex members story
https://youtu.be/viwGIwEdU_o - from the reddit. I havnt watched it yet.
This should be a good start. Its really a rabbit hole. There have been multiple father gods and fathers of the universe. One of her exs did some kind of interview also. Theres also lots of testimonials from current members.
Ive been following them for a few years. Its hard to look away. I know this is kf and emotion doesnt really have a place here. My heart aches for them and their families. Im glad we can document and archive everything here tho. Sorry if i maybe didnt really answer your question.
Eta (a day or twoor later), maybe she is just in a coma? Being in 'stasis' and spending more time in the 'etheric realm' sounds like cult speak for a coma. They also said she wasnt in pain. As well as discouraging questions because that 'wouldnt be trusting in" amy and the father god guys. She does seem to have drawn her favorites around her tho. If anything she really truly has come to terms with death.
They also mentioned she would rise again. So. Idk. If theyre all angels or whatever and will transcend or ascend with her, could this be a metafor? Also. Its been mentioned on the reddit that father god guy has kids as does amy. I may be off base but it seemed like a tentative almost idea that he would ascend with her.
Its all really cryptic and obviously delusional. I dont think it will completely fall apart at once.
Its so nuts. Tonight would prolly be a good night for an ascension tho. The moon and all. Ill spare the details on that.
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I didn't see this posted, but Amy and her cult have apparently fled Crestone for Dunsmuir, California, near Mount Shasta of course, Mt. Shasta has always attracted weirdos and the adjacent towns of Mount Shasta City and Dunsmuir are known locally as the loony bin of Siskiyou County.
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Mount Shasta Herald
The leader of a nonprofit spiritual institution that has been accused of cult-like activities is thought to be living in the Mt. Shasta area, and a group of citizens is alerting people to their presence and encouraging the group to leave Siskiyou County.
Amy Carlson, who is known as "Mother God" to followers of the Love Has Won spiritual group, garnered national attention after appearing on Dr. Phil last year.
Mt. Shasta is a beacon for new age activity and lures people from around the globe who are seeking spiritual enlightenment, so it's no surprise that followers of the Love Has Won group would be drawn here, as well.
Rick Ross, who has has testified as an expert on cults in 10 states and is the author of the book "Cults Inside Out: How People Get in and Can Get Out," said in his opinion, the group is a cult.
Love Has Won broadcasts messages and sermons almost daily, and in several languages, on their website, Facebook and YouTube channels. The group is "dedicated to raising the consciousness of planet into Unity Consciousness, through the power of Our Hearts, connected with the Unified Heart," according to its Facebook page.
Until about two weeks ago, several group members were living at an RV park in Mount Shasta. The manager of the park said the young people were clean, respectful and were only asked to leave because too many people ended up living in their RV, which was against the park's policy.
Although the Love Has Won website lists the group's address as Crestone, Colorado in most places, a Dunsmuir P.O. Box is also included as a mailing address in fine print, confirming activists' belief that Carlson is living there.
Several attempts to contact the Love Has Won group with the phone number listed on their website were unsuccessful, and a request for comment by email was not returned.
1. There is a leader with absolute, totalitarian control over its members. This leader is the driving force of the group, and are often the subject of worship. This person essentially controls every aspect of their followers' lives.
2. The leader uses coercive and persuasive means to control followers' thoughts and have total influence over them. They ultimately control who they see, talk to, and read.
3. The leader uses that undue influence to exploit their followers, ultimately doing them harm.
Ross said not every cult is equally destructive, but he sees Love Has Won as being a "deeply destructive group," especially after appearing with Carlson on the Dr. Phil show last year and watching their livestreams.
In an introduction to "mom" on the Love Has Won website, Carlson said she is in her 534th reincarnation in her "quest to recover my beloved Planet, the Center of the Universe, and the first Planet I created." She claims the planet is ascending "and you need to reconnect with prime source creator, me!"
Most of their recruiting is done through its online platforms, he said.
Siskiyou County Sheriff Jeremiah LaRue said his department hasn't confirmed the group is back in the county, and Undersheriff James Randall said the department hasn't done any welfare checks on this group recently.
"Years ago, when they were in Dunsmuir, we would get requests to go and check on people from relatives of folks who were in a 'cult,'" LaRue said. "Family hadn’t heard from them in a while and so they were concerned and wanted us to make contact with them and confirm they were okay. We also received complaints from neighbors that the 'cult' was loud and making a lot of noise at all hours of the night. Other than those types of calls, we never found anything criminal in nature."
But members of the group Love Has Won Exposed and Rising Above Love Has Won say they have ample evidence that Carlson is living in the Dunsmuir area in a rented cabin that sleeps 10 people and goes for $1,015 a week.
Shasta County Sheriff's Office Public Information Officer Tim Mapes confirmed that a report was made regarding Carlson earlier this month. A deputy talked with the reporting party and at that time, there wasn't enough evidence to warrant a welfare check, Mapes said.
Although it’s not apparent where Love Has Won's YouTube broadcasts are being filmed, in one of the segments, the speaker stands outdoors in a forested area with snow in the background. As she talks, the whistle of a train can be heard — like that of a train traveling on the tracks near the Mount Shasta RV park.
The group sells vitamin supplements and colloidal silver, titanium and gold, and in late March, activists took photos of an unmanned bake sale set up on a folding table near the entrance of the RV park. “Mom’s Bake Sale,” as the sign proclaimed, featured items including “Magic Peanut Butter Surprise weed cookies,” and “Magic Cranberry Crumble,” which was labeled as “double strength.”
"Kauai was proactive and successful, I know we can be too," said local activist Angelica Heed, who is helping lead the charge to get Love Has Won to leave the county. "This is not about spreading fear, but calls for awareness and action."
Skye Kinkade is the editor of the Mt. Shasta Area Newspapers and the Siskiyou Daily News. She is a fourth generation Siskiyou County resident and has lived in Mount Shasta and Weed her entire life.
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Amy looks like she has end-stage internal cancer, I'm guessing leukemia or pancreatic. Her devotees have mentioned on occasion that Amy has cancer. She may be trying to fight it using colloidal silver, which gives users that sort of bluish-gray look. Colloidal silver has been touted as a cure all for decades. If the "cabin" they're renting is legally in Shasta County, they're ok since Siskiyou County doesn't have jurisdiction and Shasta County has bigger fish to fry-the city of Redding, pop 80,000, is located there. I personally figure that once Amy is dead the cult will dissolve-personality cults rarely survive the death of the guru. LHW has no theology beyond "I'm Mother God, give me your money!", so it will likely die with her. Scientology survived because it has a theology, albeit one that reads like the bad sci-fi novels Ron Hubbard once wrote.
Spiritual group accused of cult-like activities may be planting roots in Mt. Shasta area
The leader of a nonprofit spiritual institution that has been compared to a cult is thought to be living in the Mt. Shasta area
www.siskiyoudaily.com
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Spiritual group accused of cult-like activities may be planting roots in Mt. Shasta area
Skye KinkadeMount Shasta Herald
The leader of a nonprofit spiritual institution that has been accused of cult-like activities is thought to be living in the Mt. Shasta area, and a group of citizens is alerting people to their presence and encouraging the group to leave Siskiyou County.
Amy Carlson, who is known as "Mother God" to followers of the Love Has Won spiritual group, garnered national attention after appearing on Dr. Phil last year.
Mt. Shasta is a beacon for new age activity and lures people from around the globe who are seeking spiritual enlightenment, so it's no surprise that followers of the Love Has Won group would be drawn here, as well.
Rick Ross, who has has testified as an expert on cults in 10 states and is the author of the book "Cults Inside Out: How People Get in and Can Get Out," said in his opinion, the group is a cult.
Love Has Won broadcasts messages and sermons almost daily, and in several languages, on their website, Facebook and YouTube channels. The group is "dedicated to raising the consciousness of planet into Unity Consciousness, through the power of Our Hearts, connected with the Unified Heart," according to its Facebook page.
Until about two weeks ago, several group members were living at an RV park in Mount Shasta. The manager of the park said the young people were clean, respectful and were only asked to leave because too many people ended up living in their RV, which was against the park's policy.
Although the Love Has Won website lists the group's address as Crestone, Colorado in most places, a Dunsmuir P.O. Box is also included as a mailing address in fine print, confirming activists' belief that Carlson is living there.
Several attempts to contact the Love Has Won group with the phone number listed on their website were unsuccessful, and a request for comment by email was not returned.
Is Love Has Won a cult?
Ross's book has a whole chapter on the three basic requirements that make a cult:1. There is a leader with absolute, totalitarian control over its members. This leader is the driving force of the group, and are often the subject of worship. This person essentially controls every aspect of their followers' lives.
2. The leader uses coercive and persuasive means to control followers' thoughts and have total influence over them. They ultimately control who they see, talk to, and read.
3. The leader uses that undue influence to exploit their followers, ultimately doing them harm.
Ross said not every cult is equally destructive, but he sees Love Has Won as being a "deeply destructive group," especially after appearing with Carlson on the Dr. Phil show last year and watching their livestreams.
In an introduction to "mom" on the Love Has Won website, Carlson said she is in her 534th reincarnation in her "quest to recover my beloved Planet, the Center of the Universe, and the first Planet I created." She claims the planet is ascending "and you need to reconnect with prime source creator, me!"
Could Love Has Won be a danger to the community?
While Love Has Won is dangerous for the group members, Ross said it probably won't affect the Mt. Shasta area community since Carlson's followers are involved exclusively with her and one another.Most of their recruiting is done through its online platforms, he said.
Siskiyou County Sheriff Jeremiah LaRue said his department hasn't confirmed the group is back in the county, and Undersheriff James Randall said the department hasn't done any welfare checks on this group recently.
"Years ago, when they were in Dunsmuir, we would get requests to go and check on people from relatives of folks who were in a 'cult,'" LaRue said. "Family hadn’t heard from them in a while and so they were concerned and wanted us to make contact with them and confirm they were okay. We also received complaints from neighbors that the 'cult' was loud and making a lot of noise at all hours of the night. Other than those types of calls, we never found anything criminal in nature."
But members of the group Love Has Won Exposed and Rising Above Love Has Won say they have ample evidence that Carlson is living in the Dunsmuir area in a rented cabin that sleeps 10 people and goes for $1,015 a week.
Shasta County Sheriff's Office Public Information Officer Tim Mapes confirmed that a report was made regarding Carlson earlier this month. A deputy talked with the reporting party and at that time, there wasn't enough evidence to warrant a welfare check, Mapes said.
From Colorado to Hawaii to Dunsmuir
Carlson and Castillo left Hawaii in September of 2020, according to reports from Mauinow.com and The Garden Island, at the urgings of protesters who picketed outside the condo the group had been renting on Kauai.
Although it’s not apparent where Love Has Won's YouTube broadcasts are being filmed, in one of the segments, the speaker stands outdoors in a forested area with snow in the background. As she talks, the whistle of a train can be heard — like that of a train traveling on the tracks near the Mount Shasta RV park.
The group sells vitamin supplements and colloidal silver, titanium and gold, and in late March, activists took photos of an unmanned bake sale set up on a folding table near the entrance of the RV park. “Mom’s Bake Sale,” as the sign proclaimed, featured items including “Magic Peanut Butter Surprise weed cookies,” and “Magic Cranberry Crumble,” which was labeled as “double strength.”
"Kauai was proactive and successful, I know we can be too," said local activist Angelica Heed, who is helping lead the charge to get Love Has Won to leave the county. "This is not about spreading fear, but calls for awareness and action."
Skye Kinkade is the editor of the Mt. Shasta Area Newspapers and the Siskiyou Daily News. She is a fourth generation Siskiyou County resident and has lived in Mount Shasta and Weed her entire life.
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Amy looks like she has end-stage internal cancer, I'm guessing leukemia or pancreatic. Her devotees have mentioned on occasion that Amy has cancer. She may be trying to fight it using colloidal silver, which gives users that sort of bluish-gray look. Colloidal silver has been touted as a cure all for decades. If the "cabin" they're renting is legally in Shasta County, they're ok since Siskiyou County doesn't have jurisdiction and Shasta County has bigger fish to fry-the city of Redding, pop 80,000, is located there. I personally figure that once Amy is dead the cult will dissolve-personality cults rarely survive the death of the guru. LHW has no theology beyond "I'm Mother God, give me your money!", so it will likely die with her. Scientology survived because it has a theology, albeit one that reads like the bad sci-fi novels Ron Hubbard once wrote.
I don't think so. "Father God" Jacob Castillo would still be around, and from what I've read, he's the brut behind the fear and manipulation. Plenty of end times groups have had to rewrite their story when their predicted "big event" doesn't happen the way or when they predicted it. Mother God "ascends," but the earth still exists and the members are still alive? All Father God has to do is make up new bullshit about why Mother God is stuck in ascension or some shit and they still need to preach her majesty. This whole thing may have started as very Amy centric, but I think it's much bigger than her at this point.
I dunno, man...
Ruth Norman died and--ah--Unarians are still around (although I hear they get kinda pissy if you talk about her). We'll see, but never underestimate the sheer awe-inspiring power of da stoopids. Plenty of First Amendment Frauditors and SovCit retards around to let you know that cults are alive and well and will never die.
They just take on a new form of da stoopid.
Do we have a Sov Cit community watch thread yet? They seem like an excellent community for that. Lemme check.
EDIT: Nope, doesn't look like it.
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The pessimist in me is thinking that Mother God might declare that her followers need to join her in her ascension, and thus we get another Heaven's Gate. The optimistic view is basically the above post-Father God takes over and turns Amy into some sort of angelic protector or wtf and holds the whole shitbox together with the standard mind control bullshit we've already seen.
Cults can go in weird directions when TEOTW fails to happen as their prophet said it would. Some Vermont farmer named Miller predicted the world would end on October 22, 1843. He then moved the goalposts back a year to 1844 before dying. After that failed the cult shattered, but didn't go away. The Seventh Day Adventists and the Jehovah's Witnesses both trace their spiritual lineage back to Millerism, although Miller is not a central figure in either faith. The SDA's own Miller's farm (with its still existing house built in 1816) and the church where the faithful gathered on 10/22/1844 to be lifted to heaven, and operate them as pilgrimage sites.
The point of this sperging is that a cult can go in weird directions after the prophet dies or Jesus fails to appear. Most cults simply dissolve, but even that isn't a sure thing. The Branch Davidians of Waco Siege fame emerged from a cult that was officially dissolved after the world failed to end in 1959. The woman who ran that original cult walked away, but then a guy named something like Rogan took over a small core of diehards, then Vernon Howell/David Koresh got Rogan tossed in jail and took over.
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When Prophecy Never Fails
There is one. I don't follow the thread. But if you're bored, I recommend First Amendment Frauditors (They're very hilarious if you don't have to deal with them)
* Ragical The Unhallowed Knight
* Degeneration Nation
* Van Balion/Van The Man
These are some good channels to check. There are lots of similarities to cults, although these assholes aren't the same thing.
As far as hilarious cults, check out Unarians. Ruth Norman's husband founded these whackadoos. He died and it was retconned to Ruth being Uriel is Lady Gaga drag queen outfits complete with fiber optics (I can't believe I typed this).
Then Ruth (an ex-secretary, BTW) dies and Unarians are still stuck on da stoopid, but I hear they get pissy if you even mention the Normans.
Fourth Dimension: The Cult Films of the Unarius
Members of the Unarius Academy of Science, a group of spiritual seekers and cult filmmakers based in El Cajon, California, tell us about their views on time.
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Need to catch up on thread. Didnt see this posted tho.
They talk as tho she will come back to life. Im wondering if her 'spirit' or 'essence' will come back in one of the followers. Hope or Aurora im guessing. I dont think theyll want to part with the money theyre bringing in. Theres a few members that know its bullshit and manage the cash.
Someone mentioned amy was in 'stasis'. I wonder if thats meant as a coma, or shes already passed and theyre waiting for her to come back. Theyre so weird.
The rv crew was always separate from amy. Shes been in dunsmeir for a good while. Since the houseboat thing fell thru or whatever. Families have been calling the cops for welfare checks. They wernt told the truth about amys location and couldnt complete the check. Theyve had her hidden for a long time. Since a little while after the hawaii shit.
Somethings going to happen. Following these guys is so rough. Theyve been saying amy would ascend for so long. Its hard to believe its finally going to be real.
The Australians will keep it going i believe. In a different sense tho. The US fractals are more concerned with money and business. The Australians seem more spiritually invested.
Oh shit. 2nd ss i just found a moment ago. This is the first time anybody has said it online like this. Unsure if its a troll or hype or real.
They talk as tho she will come back to life. Im wondering if her 'spirit' or 'essence' will come back in one of the followers. Hope or Aurora im guessing. I dont think theyll want to part with the money theyre bringing in. Theres a few members that know its bullshit and manage the cash.
Someone mentioned amy was in 'stasis'. I wonder if thats meant as a coma, or shes already passed and theyre waiting for her to come back. Theyre so weird.
The rv crew was always separate from amy. Shes been in dunsmeir for a good while. Since the houseboat thing fell thru or whatever. Families have been calling the cops for welfare checks. They wernt told the truth about amys location and couldnt complete the check. Theyve had her hidden for a long time. Since a little while after the hawaii shit.
Somethings going to happen. Following these guys is so rough. Theyve been saying amy would ascend for so long. Its hard to believe its finally going to be real.
The Australians will keep it going i believe. In a different sense tho. The US fractals are more concerned with money and business. The Australians seem more spiritually invested.
Oh shit. 2nd ss i just found a moment ago. This is the first time anybody has said it online like this. Unsure if its a troll or hype or real.
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Moffat? I'm pretty familiar with the area (Mount Shasta) but don't recall an area called Moffat. There is all sorts of weird shit in the mountains surrounding the north entrance to the Sacramento River Canyon, plenty of weed plantations but also a lot of micro-cults that few people know exist. I will dig out a couple maps (El Comandante does not do GPS) and see if I can find a Moffat somewhere on them. Will also check a couple of the Medford TV station websites and see if there's anything about some sort of standoff near Dunsmuir.
Edit: Checked the biggies: Channel 12 (Medford), Action News Now (Redding), Record Searchlight (Redding newspaper), nada. Dunno if the cops are considering this simply a deceased person investigation or if there's some sort of standoff. Standoffs are pretty unusual in the area, so if the cult is barricaded it will pop up on local news eventually.
Edit: Checked the biggies: Channel 12 (Medford), Action News Now (Redding), Record Searchlight (Redding newspaper), nada. Dunno if the cops are considering this simply a deceased person investigation or if there's some sort of standoff. Standoffs are pretty unusual in the area, so if the cult is barricaded it will pop up on local news eventually.
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I think they mean moffat colorado? Not positive tho. Somethings going tf down. Check this out.
Afternoon live starts in about 15 min. Guessing it will be from Australia or the s africa fractal.
Someone on the fb spoke of being told to clear out their cobwebs. I dont think it will go all heavens gate. Seems a tad alarmist. Ill be surprised if that happens. I wouldnt mourn if jason took himself out tho. Tbh. Hopefully more and more info will continue to seep out.
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