Analysis Megathread -

[Andrew Noel Schaefer]

I keep going back and forth on whether Jace has actually convinced himself he went to boot camp to block out the fact that he was sent to Jesus Camp, or if he's just making it up to hide the truth and try to impress people. I mean he has got some serious, deep down delusions which is evident by the fact that he honestly believes that people buy into the whole "I'm a Marine" shtick.

I think he knows deep down he went to Jesus Camp, but forces himself to believe that he was in boot camp and other delusions.

 

[hard2heart2heart]

I'm sure someone else has pointed this out, but if I really had to guess:

Jace has or is probably abusing OTC medication to get high on a regular basis. My best guess is that for an extended period of time he drank large amounts of robitussin (Dextromethorphan). In my experience most heavy robo-trippers end up with weird delusions that they never really come out of. I think I saw somewhere on his wiki that he had excess bottles of OTC cough syrup in the background of his videos, and most of everything going on with him fits the stereotype for me. Something about him really seems to scream "I got high on cough syrup/benadryl/duster everyday for at least six months during my formative years!"

 

[DeagleDad420]

Robotripping

Jace has used cough syrup to get high on multiple occasions, most notably in The Hater Hitlist where he drank an entire bottle of Robitussin and you can see the empty bottle still laying on his floor; his most fervent period of OTC abuse was likely around late Summer/early fall of 2013, but he hasn't talked about it since and I don't think he'd be the kind of person to take drugs without taking the opportunity to brag about it for Cool Guy Cred. Then again, maybe he's not telling us because he's paranoid about getting caught - who knows.

 

[Flowers For Sonichu]

Then again, maybe he's not telling us because he's paranoid about getting caught - who knows.

Are you implying that Jace regularily brags about selling weed but is afraid that he might get in trouble for chugging robotussin, which I'm pretty sure isn't illegal unless you drive or are stealing the bottles.

 

[Andrew Noel Schaefer]

Cough syrup abuse tends to have negative connotations compared to the ol 420

 

[Da Big Staw]

I'm sure someone else has pointed this out, but if I really had to guess:

Jace has or is probably abusing OTC medication to get high on a regular basis. My best guess is that for an extended period of time he drank large amounts of robitussin (Dextromethorphan). In my experience most heavy robo-trippers end up with weird delusions that they never really come out of. I think I saw somewhere on his wiki that he had excess bottles of OTC cough syrup in the background of his videos, and most of everything going on with him fits the stereotype for me. Something about him really seems to scream "I got high on cough syrup/benadryl/duster everyday for at least six months during my formative years!"

I seriously doubt he has been using robo more then occasionally. People on robo are pretty obvious, it creates a pretty massive body "lag" like if your really drunk.

Nothing else reminds me of the cpl times I took or saw others on it either.

 

[Andrew Noel Schaefer]

So. Wow. That stream.

You know the one I am talking about.

My only question is why he didnt kill Benito. Maybe he sees too much of himself in that FUCKING SKITZO kid? Due to how he mentions medications that the SKITZO KID would need to take, I think there might be a good chance that he was diagnosed as scitzophrenic at one point.

We also get to see Jace high. Really high. High in the sky, of where the birds fly. This is probobly why blowing up that computer (and starting the housefire) seemed like a good idea.

Of course as someone pointed out (I think @Mauvman Shuffleboard ) that sans from dying from old age, Stryker is Immortal! due to having the Unlucky trait.

Still, blowing up the world, 'us-using a machine' to turn your dog into your girl forever and finding the ingrediants to become immortal so you can have a world populated by, well, your offspring (and living forever!) is still...

I have no words. None now. Maybe there are no words. God Damn.

 

[Flowers For Sonichu]

TIBERIUS RISING II: STRYKER'S ARK

 

[The Dude]

It seems pretty likely that he's on, or supposed to be on, Abilify. Abilify also causes nausea, vomiting, and can exacerbate whatever symptoms the patient has if they stop taking it suddenly, which seems to happen with Jace when he stops taking it. Along with schizophrenia it's also used for depression, bi-polar disorder, and for certain symptoms of autism. Any and all of these can apply to Our Pet Marine, but I'm hedging my bets on Schizophrenia.

 

[Quail]

So. Wow. That stream.

You know the one I am talking about.

My only question is why he didnt kill Benito. Maybe he sees too much of himself in that FUCKING SKITZO kid? Due to how he mentions medications that the SKITZO KID would need to take, I think there might be a good chance that he was diagnosed as scitzophrenic at one point.

We also get to see Jace high. Really high. High in the sky, of where the birds fly. This is probobly why blowing up that computer (and starting the housefire) seemed like a good idea.

Of course as someone pointed out (I think @Mauvman Shuffleboard ) that sans from dying from old age, Stryker is Immortal! due to having the Unlucky trait.

Still, blowing up the world, 'us-using a machine' to turn your dog into your girl forever and finding the ingrediants to become immortal so you can have a world populated by, well, your offspring (and living forever!) is still...

I have no words. None now. Maybe there are no words. God Damn.

Jace mentioned he didn't want to kill Benito as he was his son and he felt it was immoral to kill him because of that. The rest of the world apparently didn't get that nicety.

 

[waffle]

Jace may have DID or bi-polar as co-occurring conditions, but I think at this point it's pretty much proven that he has schizophrenia.

Is it possible to have Autism while having schizophrenia? It seems like the schizophrenic symptoms would totally mask the autism.

 

[Naxra]

Jace may have DID or bi-polar as co-occurring conditions, but I think at this point it's pretty much proven that he has schizophrenia.

Is it possible to have Autism while having schizophrenia? It seems like the schizophrenic symptoms would totally mask the autism.

Until the 1960s, autism was actually called "childhood schizophrenia".

I don't know if it is actually possible to be diagnosed with autism AND schizophrenia as the latter is generally diagnosed on the basis of having a certain number of symptoms, some of which overlap with autism. Personally, I've never seen much evidence of Jace being autistic that wouldn't be explained by a diagnosis of schizophrenia. I'm sure there are people out there with both conditions, but I don't think Jace is among them.

 

[WachtAmWeb]

I thought now might be an interesting time to comment on Jace and Alcohol.

I've noticed that Jace likes to talk about booze in a similar way to drugs - he's boastful, and when on camera, he happily goes through the motions. However, I'm confused as to the extent to which Jace is the boozer that he claims to be.
For a start: whenever we see Jace chugging from a bottle - Tequila appears to be a recurring tipple - Jace makes all the right sounds and acts more drunk afterwards, but I don't remember many occasions when we see Jace take a long swig or a full mouthful. Indeed, when we do see Jace drinking quantities of booze straight from the bottle, we often then hear that booze being puked straight back up afterwards. Jace doesn't specify what kinds of booze he often drinks - in his latest video he talks about not having drunk any "bee-eer" for a couple of weeks, but IIRC he's never gone into detail about what bee-eer he likes. Does Jace spend significant amounts of his on booze? Is there a liquor store in North Brookfield, and does Gail know how much Jace drinks?
Of course, the elephant in the room is the fact that Jace goes to AA meetings, which is indicative of him being enough of a problem drinker to warrant being sent there by Gail, Rob or Pastor Faggot. I can't help thinking that this is an attempt to wean him off his preferred #420 by proxy, or some shit.
Thoughts?

 

[DeagleDad420]

I thought now might be an interesting time to comment on Jace and Alcohol.

I've noticed that Jace likes to talk about booze in a similar way to drugs - he's boastful, and when on camera, he happily goes through the motions. However, I'm confused as to the extent to which Jace is the boozer that he claims to be.
For a start: whenever we see Jace chugging from a bottle - Tequila appears to be a recurring tipple - Jace makes all the right sounds and acts more drunk afterwards, but I don't remember many occasions when we see Jace take a long swig or a full mouthful. Indeed, when we do see Jace drinking quantities of booze straight from the bottle, we often then hear that booze being puked straight back up afterwards. Jace doesn't specify what kinds of booze he often drinks - in his latest video he talks about not having drunk any "bee-eer" for a couple of weeks, but IIRC he's never gone into detail about what bee-eer he likes. Does Jace spend significant amounts of his on booze? Is there a liquor store in North Brookfield, and does Gail know how much Jace drinks?
Of course, the elephant in the room is the fact that Jace goes to AA meetings, which is indicative of him being enough of a problem drinker to warrant being sent there by Gail, Rob or Pastor Faggot. I can't help thinking that this is an attempt to wean him off his preferred #420 by proxy, or some shit.
Thoughts?

tl;dr inbound

He's mentioned Gray Goose vodka in some of our conversations, and Gamerfood has brought it up as well. That's about all I know though, for an alcoholic he doesn't talk about it a lot, which is odd because Jace seems to boast about everything that he thinks will make him appear "edgy"; at least, he doesn't boast about it NEARLY as much as he boast about drugs, which leads me to believe he's hiding something, or realizes that his problems with it outweigh the validation he'll get from bragging about it to his dipshit friends.

I think we're both aware of the fake Jack Daniels tequila bottle in his earlier videos, which was pretty hilarious and yet another pathetic example of him trying to look like a badass and failing miserably. For a while that made me think the entire "alcoholic" thing was made up, like any other persona of his, because he thought it would make him look like a badass. Then I saw the VLOG-ust video of him bitching about AA though and he seemed genuinely distressed about it, and I don't think if the entire thing was invented that he would have a realistic way of how bad alcoholism actually is; if he's going to invent a fantasy persona, it's going to be perfect, with no flaws, because he's a total narcissist... and plus, there's not much value in escapism if you're escaping to a situation worse than the real one.

I still am not sure about it to this day, whether it's just another bullshit persona of his designed to appear cool, or edgy, or garner sympathy or whatever... or whether it's an actual problem that he has, but I'm leaning towards it being real because he doesn't talk/brag about it as much as I would expect if it was made up. Sadly, there's still a lot of gaps in our information about Jace's life.

Regardless of the substance though, the problem with Jace is that, even while high, he seems to have no filter and no problem multi-tasking or doing things he really shouldn't. Most people when under the influence understand that they're impaired and have a sense of caution; Jace sees no problem whatsoever with driving while high, for example, and even touts it as "cool" on twitter. Likewise, he saw nothing wrong with filming himself rambling incoherently in the midst of an adderall tailspin and then posting it publicly - so much that he still hasn't taken down the video today, despite the fact that it makes him look like a pre-columbine paranoid schizo.

Of course, there's also the escapism, which I believe to be the primary draw. Jace has a really addictive personality and he's going to find escapism for himself no matter what, whether it's through video games, alcohol, weed, harder drugs, his shitty book, his Deagle Nation "missions", his vlogs, his "FACT ZONE" fantasy of being a hit newscaster... whatever it might be, Jace's life is designed around escapism. Even if he goes completely sober (which I doubt) he will still have the same problems until he attacks the root cause which is that he is running away from his own problems.

 

[MLW RS 18]

Watching Our Pet Tactical Lolcow's mental state is like watching one of these:

 

[The Dude]

tl;dr inbound

He's mentioned Gray Goose vodka in some of our conversations, and Gamerfood has brought it up as well. That's about all I know though, for an alcoholic he doesn't talk about it a lot, which is odd because Jace seems to boast about everything that he thinks will make him appear "edgy"; at least, he doesn't boast about it NEARLY as much as he boast about drugs, which leads me to believe he's hiding something, or realizes that his problems with it outweigh the validation he'll get from bragging about it to his dipshit friends.

I think we're both aware of the fake Jack Daniels tequila bottle in his earlier videos, which was pretty hilarious and yet another pathetic example of him trying to look like a badass and failing miserably. For a while that made me think the entire "alcoholic" thing was made up, like any other persona of his, because he thought it would make him look like a badass. Then I saw the VLOG-ust video of him bitching about AA though and he seemed genuinely distressed about it, and I don't think if the entire thing was invented that he would have a realistic way of how bad alcoholism actually is; if he's going to invent a fantasy persona, it's going to be perfect, with no flaws, because he's a total narcissist... and plus, there's not much value in escapism if you're escaping to a situation worse than the real one.

I still am not sure about it to this day, whether it's just another bullshit persona of his designed to appear cool, or edgy, or garner sympathy or whatever... or whether it's an actual problem that he has, but I'm leaning towards it being real because he doesn't talk/brag about it as much as I would expect if it was made up. Sadly, there's still a lot of gaps in our information about Jace's life.

Regardless of the substance though, the problem with Jace is that, even while high, he seems to have no filter and no problem multi-tasking or doing things he really shouldn't. Most people when under the influence understand that they're impaired and have a sense of caution; Jace sees no problem whatsoever with driving while high, for example, and even touts it as "cool" on twitter. Likewise, he saw nothing wrong with filming himself rambling incoherently in the midst of an adderall tailspin and then posting it publicly - so much that he still hasn't taken down the video today, despite the fact that it makes him look like a pre-columbine paranoid schizo.

Of course, there's also the escapism, which I believe to be the primary draw. Jace has a really addictive personality and he's going to find escapism for himself no matter what, whether it's through video games, alcohol, weed, harder drugs, his shitty book, his Deagle Nation "missions", his vlogs, his "FACT ZONE" fantasy of being a hit newscaster... whatever it might be, Jace's life is designed around escapism. Even if he goes completely sober (which I doubt) he will still have the same problems until he attacks the root cause which is that he is running away from his own problems.

Don't forget, he wasn't just on Aderall, he was also on Dextromethorphan, the active ingredient in cough syrup, which is a disassociative and can make you hallucinate. Throw in schizophrenia and you're gonna have a bad time.

 

[Flowers For Sonichu]

I wouldn't put it past Jace to have a legitimate adderall prescription since he shows a lot of symptoms of ADHD and would explain why he was in special education.

 

[Lou]

About Jace's alcoholism, we don't have much of a history of Jace in High School but he strikes me as someone who would not have been able to control themselves when drinking. A lot of teenagers drink obviously, but I can see Jace being one of those people who just can't handle it and becomes a full on teenage alcoholic. He clearly abuses drugs, but the availability and popularity of alcohol I can really see leading to some problems early on.

There were a couple of moments in the latest stream where Jace said if he had a nuke he'd use it. Now obviously this will never happen, but what I find really disturbing about this is it's probably true. He also said that he was the only person in the world at one point (in the "I think, therefore I am" sense I believe) and continued the "I am God" ranting. Jace's mental state seems to be far more actively delusional even when he's on his medication than I thought and from the sounds of it he's almost confirmed schizophrenic based on his medication and symptoms. I'm starting to wonder just how capable and more importantly willing Jace is of really hurting or even killing someone if given the chance. He really seems like he wants to hurt people (gays and muslims in particular, he doesn't even seem to view them as human) at times but lacks the tools to do it. But what's worse is he seems to get some weird, creepy satisfaction out of the concept because it makes him feel like he'd appear heroic.

 

[Flowers For Sonichu]

I keep on hearing stuff about the Dark Souls II livestream where he gets so wasted that he passes out on camera but I can't find it anywhere

 

[WachtAmWeb]

I keep on hearing stuff about the Dark Souls II livestream where he gets so wasted that he passes out on camera but I can't find it anywhere

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