Careercow Andrew Dobson / Tom Preston / CattyN - STOP DOING SEXIST CRAP

Jigglyjogglers

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Anyway, Ian didn't seem to have any drama.
He made a bunch of ad banners that made RPG World look like a porn comic and then threw a tantrum when people asked if he'd draw the characters naked. He made a bunch of shitty filtered photo comics about the guy that was supposedly playing the game, then threw a major tantrum when people didn't like those even more than his drawn comics, and abruptly ended his successful comic because of it. Plenty of people who watched him melt down at the time have said that's the reason he stopped drawing it, not that he "outgrew" it. I'd call both of those things drama. Dude's a lolcow, or at least was at the height of his relevancy.
 

Ghostse

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Dude's a lolcow, or at least was at the height of his relevancy.
I'm absolutely certain there's a trove of his Sonic fan art somewhere. He married Rebecca Sugar (presumably voluntarily). Most of his breaks very clearly came from who he was fucking. If he wasn't a lolcow, he was definitely close.
Shit, he works on Steven Universe, I'm pretty sure being a lolcow is a job requirement.

I remember the banners - they were parodies of some other comic banners. I don't remember the corresponding meltdowns, but all the drama I was privy too was at best Keenspot-adjacent. I followed the comic, he just seemed to have the usual thing where output slowed, stopped, returned for a few months stopping completely. I dunno, dude was in highschool when he became internet famous, I guess I cut him some slack because of that, and then as far as I was aware quickly faded from relevancy, like the Avalon guy.
 

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These right here are one of the my most " favorite" Andrew pieces.

It just sums up everything about the guy. A kid that is stuck in a mans body, who cant let go of the past. I hate bringing up a star wars reference but Yoda said fear leads to anger, anger leads to hate, hate leads to suffering. That quote sums up Andrew, He is afraid to face the world how it is. He cant handle a real job and is dead set on being a "cartoonist" , The problem is that he is lazy and doesn't want to do the heavy work to get there. I'm still shocked how badly he screwed up the care taker job, It was free rent! People would've killed for that type of job but he is so dead set on being a "cartoonist" that he gave that up. He reminds me of a homeless youtuber that i follow, Mike Angelo. He's a homeless film maker that is deadset on being a screen writer. He moved to Los Angeles to pursue his dream but he has no experience and and doesn't want to work a job. Now, Angelo is living in his car and spends all his day re writing scripts like its going to help him become a better screen writer,.

Also, Andrew needs to learn to take a fucking joke. His co workers made fun of him at the airport job but he could've easily handle that situation by laughing it off. People make fun of each other all the time and if the person is targeting you, eventually they will get tired of it especially on a work place.
 

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These right here are one of the my most " favorite" Andrew pieces.

It just sums up everything about the guy. A kid that is stuck in a mans body, who cant let go of the past. I hate bringing up a star wars reference but Yoda said fear leads to anger, anger leads to hate, hate leads to suffering. That quote sums up Andrew, He is afraid to face the world how it is. He cant handle a real job and is dead set on being a "cartoonist" , The problem is that he is lazy and doesn't want to do the heavy work to get there. I'm still shocked how badly he screwed up the care taker job, It was free rent! People would've killed for that type of job but he is so dead set on being a "cartoonist" that he gave that up. He reminds me of a homeless youtuber that i follow, Mike Angelo. He's a homeless film maker that is deadset on being a screen writer. He moved to Los Angeles to pursue his dream but he has no experience and and doesn't want to work a job. Now, Angelo is living in his car and spends all his day re writing scripts like its going to help him become a better screen writer,.

Also, Andrew needs to learn to take a fucking joke. His co workers made fun of him at the airport job but he could've easily handle that situation by laughing it off. People make fun of each other all the time and if the person is targeting you, eventually they will get tired of it especially on a work place.
Speaking seriously, I can (sort of) relate to Dobson getting bullied in school. I was the hyperactive kid that most people in school "knew" of, but very few actually liked outside of cordiality. Instead of cartooning/animating, I was all about writing and reading. I got bullied and isolated and had rage issues because of it.

But, unlike Dobson, I left all that shit behind when I graduated high school and moved away. Did I ever become that famous author that I always wanted to be? No, in fact, I realized shortly before graduation that I lack commitment to actually write long term. But I didn't let that rule my life, and now I make money editing videos, which is also pretty rad.

While I do have my moments of having totally stupid priorities (focusing on the wrong thing at the wrong time), I've never made mistakes on the same kind of problems that Dobson had; the ones that cost him his jobs and his potentially once-in-a-lifetime chance of free rent. But the mistakes I've made, I've owned up to (even if it did take time); something that Andrew never did. Not once, I believe, did he ever outright say "It's my fault that I spent all my money on book clout" or "It's my fault that have sour attitudes at work from the airport all the way to USPS". to any of his issues.

It's depressing seeing people refusing to move past their childhoods like MovieBob or Dobson. Not just because it's a large contributor to making them lolcows, but just because they're so emotionally and mentally immature, they just... can't handle the real world. It's like watching a crying clown: you don't know whether to laugh or be sad.
 

Piga Dgrifm

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If he actually was bullied to such an extent that it left enough lasting damage that it impairs his ability to function and form relationships, he needed to get actual therapy years ago instead of using the Internet as an anger sponge until everything crashed in on him. Having awful experience after awful experience in the early years can seriously fuck you up, obviously, but Dobson needed to get help for that much earlier than now.

Granted, I'm giving him the benefit of the doubt that it wasn't all bullshit or severely exaggerated for sympathy points... Although, there is evidence to suggest it was, the bullies in his comics behave like those in Nickelodeon shows and are the stereotypical Jerk Jock archetypes, rather than speaking like actual schoolyard dicks do, and aren't all just 'the jocks'. And the only other early trauma we know of aside from the alleged bullying is that mysterious event that led him to getting banned from school buses forever.
 

MechaWashington

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If he actually was bullied to such an extent that it left enough lasting damage that it impairs his ability to function and form relationships, he needed to get actual therapy years ago instead of using the Internet as an anger sponge until everything crashed in on him. Having awful experience after awful experience in the early years can seriously fuck you up, obviously, but Dobson needed to get help for that much earlier than now.

Granted, I'm giving him the benefit of the doubt that it wasn't all bullshit or severely exaggerated for sympathy points... Although, there is evidence to suggest it was, the bullies in his comics behave like those in Nickelodeon shows and are the stereotypical Jerk Jock archetypes, rather than speaking like actual schoolyard dicks do, and aren't all just 'the jocks'. And the only other early trauma we know of aside from the alleged bullying is that mysterious event that led him to getting banned from school buses forever.
He will probably be against therapy. Doubt he can even afford it.

No, his only hope to straighten himself out is by signing up for boot camp. Full Metal Jacket Style.
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He refuses to let things go, that’s his problem. Even the smallest infraction against humanity is enough to earn his hate for life. Remember in on of his lost vlogs, he says he keeps a list of all the GameTrailers Forums members who made fun of him for being a Nintendo fanatic back when the Wii came out. That’s how butthurt he was about it. I’m sure even know he hates the “bullies” from school because he cannot just let that shit go.
 

Alto

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Dobson was likely that irritating tattletale kid that, though he dearly wished to have friends, isolated himself with his own whiny and insufferable behavior. There's a ton of kids out there like that, coddled by their parents but unable to figure out that sometimes you need to be humble and friendly.

A truly lonely child is desperate for attention, even to the point of giving everything they have for scraps of attention. They don't have a superiority complex like Andy does. Most of the time, they're very shy and worried about being rejected and are willing to debase and humiliate themselves if it means approval. That's why a lot of lonely kids need encouragement and confidence boosting while they're young so that they don't end up in fucked up relationships in the future.

Dobson never gives though. He takes. And he whines. And he never lowers himself or feels for others. He's hollow that way.

Dobson was likely just your run of the mill unpleasant goblin of a boy with a big ego but no sense of empathy or humility to recognize the need for other's approval.
 

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He refuses to let things go, that’s his problem. Even the smallest infraction against humanity is enough to earn his hate for life. Remember in on of his lost vlogs, he says he keeps a list of all the GameTrailers Forums members who made fun of him for being a Nintendo fanatic back when the Wii came out. That’s how butthurt he was about it. I’m sure even know he hates the “bullies” from school because he cannot just let that shit go.
I actually remember this girl who used to bully me in school for years until she was expelled freshman year of high school, and in the few times when I've seen her in passing, she still scowled angrily at me. I never really knew why she hated me, and I don't think I ever will, but whatever she has against me, she won't ever let it go.

I used to always let her get on my nerves, and she loved to get a rise out of me, but unlike Dobson, I don't let her dominate my thoughts every day, and from what I've heard from others, she's still stewing in her own negativity while I've moved on with my life.

Honestly, Dobson should be used as an example for what happens when bullying remains unchecked. If you don't talk with someone about being bullied, those unchecked feelings can influence their lives like what happened to Dobson.
 

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Y'know though I was thinking about something this morning and I feel like I wanna give Dobson credit for something: at least he (kind of) tried and (sort of) stuck with it.

I'm not even being sarcastic here. He tried to be creative, and for many years he stuck with trying to do that. Sure he was trying for all the wrong reasons, and he wasn't trying that hard, and he kept dropping projects when they weren't rewarding enough, and he didn't put effort into developing his skill, and most of his work was painfully derivative and puerile, and he let himself constantly be vexed by the words of people he could have easily ignored if he weren't obsessed with being praised and validated...

... but then take a moment and realize that it's still more than most people do. He was shitty at being a creator but at least he was a creator for awhile. Most people are consumers from the day they have their first Little Golden Book read to them until the day they listen to their favorite overproduced studio song on their deathbed. The fact that he bothered to try creating at all at least puts him a half a step over all those who never create anything and never even seriously consider doing so.
 

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Y'know though I was thinking about something this morning and I feel like I wanna give Dobson credit for something: at least he (kind of) tried and (sort of) stuck with it.

I'm not even being sarcastic here. He tried to be creative, and for many years he stuck with trying to do that. Sure he was trying for all the wrong reasons, and he wasn't trying that hard, and he kept dropping projects when they weren't rewarding enough, and he didn't put effort into developing his skill, and most of his work was painfully derivative and puerile, and he let himself constantly be vexed by the words of people he could have easily ignored if he weren't obsessed with being praised and validated...

... but then take a moment and realize that it's still more than most people do. He was shitty at being a creator but at least he was a creator for awhile. Most people are consumers from the day they have their first Little Golden Book read to them until the day they listen to their favorite overproduced studio song on their deathbed. The fact that he bothered to try creating at all at least puts him a half a step over all those who never create anything and never even seriously consider doing so.
his pirate books can earn him a participation trophy ok. the rest of his oeuvre is minimal effort meant to maximize internet validation. and he was too lazy to manage even that. if he regularly put out comics he could still have his following.
 
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Jigglyjogglers

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his pirate books can earn him a participation trophy ok. the rest of his oeuvre is minimal effort meant to maximize internet validation. and he was too lazy to manage even that. if he regularly put out comics he could still have his following.
Like I said, none of his work is good. None of it is genuinely creative or comes from a place that speaks of feeling, except maybe his ones that are pure hate-filled rants. But it is still work.

I guess I just have a particular disdain for people who never create anything themselves but devote endless amounts of energy to being negative of other people's work. And no that's not a callout, because I'm talking about people that are relentlessly negative about virtually everything they come across; most of the people in this thread have demonstrated the ability to compare and contrast Dobson's work to better works they enjoy, or even works that they didn't enjoy but could see positive aspects of. The ones I'm talking about never create but are deeply devoted to tearing down, ripping apart, and hating on the works of others who do.

More like, there is a lower form of life than Dobson, and it is the MovieBobs and the CinemaSins and their ilk of the world. Criticizing is one thing, pointing and laughing is one thing, but relentless negativity as a replacement for self-validation is a plague.
 

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Like I said, none of his work is good. None of it is genuinely creative or comes from a place that speaks of feeling, except maybe his ones that are pure hate-filled rants. But it is still work.

I guess I just have a particular disdain for people who never create anything themselves but devote endless amounts of energy to being negative of other people's work. And no that's not a callout, because I'm talking about people that are relentlessly negative about virtually everything they come across; most of the people in this thread have demonstrated the ability to compare and contrast Dobson's work to better works they enjoy, or even works that they didn't enjoy but could see positive aspects of. The ones I'm talking about never create but are deeply devoted to tearing down, ripping apart, and hating on the works of others who do.

More like, there is a lower form of life than Dobson, and it is the MovieBobs and the CinemaSins and their ilk of the world. Criticizing is one thing, pointing and laughing is one thing, but relentless negativity as a replacement for self-validation is a plague.
Yeah, even CWC created something despite everything.
But let's not have that point of view as a must one; some creations are bad, very bad but not to have comparasion to your non-existent work (in those comments at least). Sadly if you egocentrism is bigger than your pride, there'll be problems.
 
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Yeah, even CWC created something despite everything.
But let's not have that point of view as a must one; some creations are bad, very bad but not to have comparasion to your non-existent work (in those comments at least). Sadly if you egocentrism is bigger than your pride, there'll be problems.
Chris Chan's comics were fucking awful, revealed too much about his personal life, were complete cringe, and made people bully him. Some art is so bad that it shouldn't be published. All of Dobson's comics with his shitty opinions shouldn't have been posted either. Their lives would have been better had they not published that crap.
 

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There are people like that whose fetishes have become so extreme that they've effectively neutered themselves for actual real-life sex. If you can't cum without a 60-foot dickgirl shoving you up into a 30-foot horsedick and digesting you into cum to be stored in her equally oversized balls, you just aren't going to find anything in real-life that comes even remotely close to that.
Hey I recognize that doujin plot!
 

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Y'know though I was thinking about something this morning and I feel like I wanna give Dobson credit for something: at least he (kind of) tried and (sort of) stuck with it.
I've been struggling with the same notion.

I don't know how to make a movie. If I made a movie, it would look like Suburban Sasquatch. Therefore, I don't make movies. I wonder if that is a good thing.