Careercow Andrew Dobson / Tom Preston / CattyN - STOP DOING SEXIST CRAP

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Jigglyjogglers

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I've been struggling with the same notion.

I don't know how to make a movie. If I made a movie, it would look like Suburban Sasquatch. Therefore, I don't make movies. I wonder if that is a good thing.
It's not.

It's understandable if you make the movie, look at it, decide it's not of a quality to share with the world, and put it on a memory stick and tuck it away somewhere. It's okay if you do that with the next five movies you make. It's okay if you do that with all of the movies you make.

But if you think it would be fun to make movies, and you feel like you have an idea to make a movie, and you do nothing with that but say "Well it would suck" and never make one, then you've proven yourself more of a coward than Dobson. Letting a creative urge die because it wouldn't be as good as a major studio funded and polished endeavor is one of the saddest, most hollow things in the world. Don't do it. If you feel the urge to be creative, you should... you don't have to throw what you make out there hoping for public adulation, the point is the creation, not the reaction.

Edit: Actually let me add one more thing here.

If all you ever even do is have fun making something, you will be a step up over Dobson. That is one of the greatest problems he has, one that shows through in everything he does: He's not having any fun. Everything he creates is to chase acclaim, to drive for pay, or to attack someone that's wronged him. And you can tell from the lack of effort and shortcuts he takes that he is never, ever having any fun doing it. If you have an audience, there's something to be said for taking the audience into account, but if you're not having any damn fun with what you're doing then there's not a single bit of point to it. Dobson hates drawing, hates making comics, and hates putting his work out there. That will always be his downfall as a creator, because he doesn't actually enjoy creating. Anyone who does is superior to him... even if their skills were less, even if their audience was smaller, as long as they have fun they will be more successful at creating and at life than the fuckin' blue bear.
 
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Jigglyjogglers

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You underestimate how bad this film would be. Even unseen, its suckitude would emanate outwards, corrupting all who inhaled its fowl effluvium. God would shake His head, pull out his Flooderator, say "Well, that's it for the Human race," and Jesus would nod and say, "Go for it, Dad."
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Prophetic Spirit

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It's not.

It's understandable if you make the movie, look at it, decide it's not of a quality to share with the world, and put it on a memory stick and tuck it away somewhere. It's okay if you do that with the next five movies you make. It's okay if you do that with all of the movies you make.

But if you think it would be fun to make movies, and you feel like you have an idea to make a movie, and you do nothing with that but say "Well it would suck" and never make one, then you've proven yourself more of a coward than Dobson. Letting a creative urge die because it wouldn't be as good as a major studio funded and polished endeavor is one of the saddest, most hollow things in the world. Don't do it. If you feel the urge to be creative, you should... you don't have to throw what you make out there hoping for public adulation, the point is the creation, not the reaction.

Edit: Actually let me add one more thing here.

If all you ever even do is have fun making something, you will be a step up over Dobson. That is one of the greatest problems he has, one that shows through in everything he does: He's not having any fun. Everything he creates is to chase acclaim, to drive for pay, or to attack someone that's wronged him. And you can tell from the lack of effort and shortcuts he takes that he is never, ever having any fun doing it. If you have an audience, there's something to be said for taking the audience into account, but if you're not having any damn fun with what you're doing then there's not a single bit of point to it. Dobson hates drawing, hates making comics, and hates putting his work out there. That will always be his downfall as a creator, because he doesn't actually enjoy creating. Anyone who does is superior to him... even if their skills were less, even if their audience was smaller, as long as they have fun they will be more successful at creating and at life than the fuckin' blue bear.
Yeah, that's understandable. Give up your dreams is coward in either way. Dobson is the finest example of failure when you loved art... and that's depressing.
The novel i'm working was thought for a actual animation. If that doesn't work, i don't care; probably all my effort putted in my creation will be worthwhile; many people who readed a lot of shit agrees with the plot, i need only polisher the redaction. My another objective is being well-know for that; money isn't important since i'm studying a career.
 

The Ultimate Ramotith

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You underestimate how bad this film would be. Even unseen, its suckitude would emanate outwards, corrupting all who inhaled its fowl effluvium. God would shake His head, pull out his Flooderator, say "Well, that's it for the Human race," and Jesus would nod and say, "Go for it, Dad."
Would your film be pedo-zoo lesbian scat porn, then?
 

Kaede Did Nothing Wrong

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More like, there is a lower form of life than Dobson, and it is the MovieBobs and the CinemaSins and their ilk of the world. Criticizing is one thing, pointing and laughing is one thing, but relentless negativity as a replacement for self-validation is a plague.
one of the reasons I like mocking Dobson is imo he is that spiteful critic who couldn't create. having an OC bear avatar outright say his opinions is just 1 step removed from tweeting. like not trying to a-log him here. I just can't see anyone hiding behind politics as much as he did as deserving credit for taking risks and being vulnerable.
If all you ever even do is have fun making something, you will be a step up over Dobson.
anyone able to hold a job and not draw creepy teenage lesbians has him bested.
 

Dilligaff

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You underestimate how bad this film would be. Even unseen, its suckitude would emanate outwards, corrupting all who inhaled its fowl effluvium. God would shake His head, pull out his Flooderator, say "Well, that's it for the Human race," and Jesus would nod and say, "Go for it, Dad."
Literally everyone makes bad (sometimes horrible) art before they can make even acceptable art.
 

AprilRains

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You underestimate how bad this film would be. Even unseen, its suckitude would emanate outwards, corrupting all who inhaled its fowl effluvium. God would shake His head, pull out his Flooderator, say "Well, that's it for the Human race," and Jesus would nod and say, "Go for it, Dad."
Now I really want to see this movie. Please make it.

Scrubs say "Fuck this gay earth." Winners do it.
 

Ghostse

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I love watching 60-80s Godzilla movies. They are completely ridiculous. They try to pretend to have some continuity, but they don't and the ties to previous movies are all just lie to pad out the running time so they only have to have man in a rubber suit destroy the minimum number of HO-scale towns. And then the guys in the rubber suits try to wrestle with each other but aren't very good at it because they are in rubber suits with poor visibility and even poorer ventilation.

I love them because they are such a fucking blast to watch because the guy who made them liked making them. He knew what he was making, didn't try to make some other movie, and put out as good of a product as he was able.

Do the same.
Don't be a Dobson.
 

Koby_Fish

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You underestimate how bad this film would be. Even unseen, its suckitude would emanate outwards, corrupting all who inhaled its fowl effluvium. God would shake His head, pull out his Flooderator, say "Well, that's it for the Human race," and Jesus would nod and say, "Go for it, Dad."
Hell, maybe it'll be the next The Room, if nothing else :story:
 

Nekromantik2

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I love watching 60-80s Godzilla movies. They are completely ridiculous. They try to pretend to have some continuity, but they don't and the ties to previous movies are all just lie to pad out the running time so they only have to have man in a rubber suit destroy the minimum number of HO-scale towns. And then the guys in the rubber suits try to wrestle with each other but aren't very good at it because they are in rubber suits with poor visibility and even poorer ventilation.

I love them because they are such a fucking blast to watch because the guy who made them liked making them. He knew what he was making, didn't try to make some other movie, and put out as good of a product as he was able.

Do the same.
Don't be a Dobson.
You bring up what the difference is here. They had fun making those Godzilla movies. Hell it's seen as an honor play Godzilla, they know it's all in good fun. And watching those movies you can see that the people behind the sense enjoyed making it.

Dobson doesn't do anything for the fun or passion, he makes art to get famous. We know this because every time he tried to sell something he made and it didn't sell, he'd give up.

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Caddchef

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You bring up what the difference is here. They had fun making those Godzilla movies. Hell it's seen as an honor play Godzilla, they know it's all in good fun. And watching those movies you can see that the people behind the sense enjoyed making it.

Dobson doesn't do anything for the fun or passion, he makes art to get famous. We know this because every time he tried to sell something he made and it didn't sell, he'd give up.

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The "other than inflation art" bit always cracks me up.
 

/A/non Prince

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You bring up what the difference is here. They had fun making those Godzilla movies. Hell it's seen as an honor play Godzilla, they know it's all in good fun. And watching those movies you can see that the people behind the sense enjoyed making it.

Dobson doesn't do anything for the fun or passion, he makes art to get famous. We know this because every time he tried to sell something he made and it didn't sell, he'd give up.

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Agreed. Hell even in Hollywood they're's fun. How many times have we seen or heard articles of production crews and actors having silly fun behind the scenes. If I am to bring an example, people said Alan Rickman the actor for Snape loved pulling pranks. He even did one with Michael Gambon and Alfonso Cuarón on Daniel Radcliffe where they put a device that let out farts in his sleeping bag and they all loved it. He admitted it was the best prank he did on set.

Dobson is more business and greedy that wants to ride off one magnum opus and make mediocre things afterwards. He has no real drive or motivation. He doesn't even seem to look like he has fun doing it. They always say "if you have fun, you'll never work a day in your life". He doesn't care about fun and thus works everyday to sloppily make up for it.
 

Jigglyjogglers

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Agreed. Hell even in Hollywood they're's fun. How many times have we seen or heard articles of production crews and actors having silly fun behind the scenes. If I am to bring an example, people said Alan Rickman the actor for Snape loved pulling pranks. He even did one with Michael Gambon and Alfonso Cuarón on Daniel Radcliffe where they put a device that let out farts in his sleeping bag and they all loved it. He admitted it was the best prank he did on set.
Probably the most famous example is that the cast was having such a blast making Young Frankenstein that Mel Brooks kept adding scenes to it he knew would probably get cut just so that they wouldn't have to stop filming.
 

Ghostse

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Agreed. Hell even in Hollywood they're's fun. How many times have we seen or heard articles of production crews and actors having silly fun behind the scenes. If I am to bring an example, people said Alan Rickman the actor for Snape loved pulling pranks. He even did one with Michael Gambon and Alfonso Cuarón on Daniel Radcliffe where they put a device that let out farts in his sleeping bag and they all loved it. He admitted it was the best prank he did on set.
This is pretty much why Adam Sandler movies continue to get green lit.
Adam Sandler is know to be a genuinely nice in Hollywood, and everyone says he's easy to work with. So when he calls up talent to do a small part in whatever dumb script he's at this time, everyone says yes if they aren't in the middle of shoot.

Sandler movies are dumb, but he enjoys making them and having a good time on set. Sandler doesn't care if it doesn't win an oscar as long someone has as good a time watching it as he did making it.

Dobson doesn't enjoy making things. He hates making art, but he wants to have made art so he can enjoy the rewards.