Careercow Andrew Dobson / Tom Preston - STOP DOING SEXIST CRAP

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It's actually a little worse than that in context.

See, this isn't just the main villain; he's also supposed to be her teacher. And throughout the film, one reoccurring aspect between them is that Jude Law always bests Captain Mehvel in physical combat, causing Meh to always fall back on her powers to win. Jude Law warns her multiple times that this is a terrible tactic in the long run as it's basically her using her powers as a crutch, that she's way too impatient as a fighter and that she should learn more self control instead.

If this were a normal movie, that would be the lead-in for Captain Marvel to learn this lesson over the course of the movie and thus able to best Jude Law. Instead not only does Meh give us a lackluster anti-climax, but she accidentally prove Jude Law right in that she's nothing without her powers.

Kinda also explains why Dobson's so adamant about defending her: they're both lazy and complacent where they heavily rely on "innate" talent rather than improving themselves.
Add into this that the whole point of Marvel just one shotting this guy is just to pull a weird flex on the villain, like "I don't have to fight your way" thing. The problem is it just deflates the encounter and makes all the posturing about how she's relying on her powers too much a complete flat plot line. It feels like a buildup and then it just goes no where. It's a pointless plot element that is introduced early in the movie, completely forgotten about, and then suddenly remembered just to end up being pointless.

In other words, it's bad writing.

In the Indiana Jones movie this is a single scene, without a plot line tied into it, that is used as a comedic way of demonstrating an element of Indy's personality. It is simple and funny without deflating a major villain or destroying a plot line that the writers had forgotten they'd written.

In other words, it's good writing.
 

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This is an apples and oranges comparison. One involves the climax of a final fight and one has an interesting behind the scenes reason for why it was put into the final product.
Not to mention that the scene from Indiana Jones was a case of subverting the audience's expectations done well. Multiple round headed individuals could learn a thing or two from this adventure flick.

It's actually a little worse than that in context.

See, this isn't just the main villain; he's also supposed to be her teacher. And throughout the film, one reoccurring aspect between them is that Jude Law always bests Captain Mehvel in physical combat, causing Meh to always fall back on her powers to win. Jude Law warns her multiple times that this is a terrible tactic in the long run as it's basically her using her powers as a crutch, that she's way too impatient as a fighter and that she should learn more self control instead.

If this were a normal movie, that would be the lead-in for Captain Marvel to learn this lesson over the course of the movie and thus able to best Jude Law. Instead not only does Meh give us a lackluster anti-climax, but she accidentally prove Jude Law right in that she's nothing without her powers.

Kinda also explains why Dobson's so adamant about defending her: they're both lazy and complacent where they heavily rely on "innate" talent rather than improving themselves.
Holy shit, that's straight up fan fiction tier writing, no exaggeration! No wonder people don't remember anything from the movie other than Goose and Nick Fury losing his eye the most anticlimactic ways possible.
 

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Add into this that the whole point of Marvel just one shotting this guy is just to pull a weird flex on the villain, like "I don't have to fight your way" thing. The problem is it just deflates the encounter and makes all the posturing about how she's relying on her powers too much a complete flat plot line. It feels like a buildup and then it just goes no where. It's a pointless plot element that is introduced early in the movie, completely forgotten about, and then suddenly remembered just to end up being pointless.

In other words, it's bad writing.

In the Indiana Jones movie this is a single scene, without a plot line tied into it, that is used as a comedic way of demonstrating an element of Indy's personality. It is simple and funny without deflating a major villain or destroying a plot line that the writers had forgotten they'd written.

In other words, it's good writing.
I wouldn't say that the CM is bad writing due to it being pointless, it clearly is trying to have a point as generic "you go grrl" theme fodder after all. What makes it bad writing is that the method in doing so is that the message it relays is "if you got the abilities don't intentionally limit yourself for the sake of someone else's ego," which only works if the audience is convinced that Jude Law is wrong. But it's completely undermined by the fact that CM is incapable of doing anything without her powers as she is neither smart or skilled outside of other characters telling us that she is. If it was simply pointless it would simply be an annoying non-sequitur, what makes it story-breaking is how it feeds into the overall movie presenting a terrible message through a terrible, static character.

Again, CM and Dobson are a perfect match in that regard.
 

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Imagine accidentally proving the main villain right and thus not improving one iota from the beginning of the movie to the end. If all you use are your powers, what would happen to you if you didn't have them.
Well, if I recall from the comic history, it leads to Rougue from the X-Men stealing your powers and you becoming an sad hopeless alcoholic.
 

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Dobson gets more replies to his terrified-and-flattered post on Instagram about suddenly followers. Apparently Laurencel Art shouted him out:
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A reply to his trash reblogging of the trash comparison to Indy/Captain Cheese:
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[CITATION NEEDED] Brie has the acting skills of a brick and Stewart is the only American to win some sort of French movie award.
He’s just doing this again.
 

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[CITATION NEEDED] Brie has the acting skills of a brick and Stewart is the only American to win some sort of French movie award.
Stewart was awful in Twilight but that's mostly because she and her male counterpart both hated the novels and the fans and said they basically acted badly on purpose. They were there for a paycheck. However, Stewart has always been quite animated and personable in interviews, even during the Twilight era, and most people acknowledged that when they saw those interviews... the people that said she was awful had mostly only seen clips of Twilight.

Larsen is a complete flat-faced sarcastibitch on or off screen.
 

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Really? Really, Dobson?
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Seriously, does this fat bastard have any form of intelligence in that thing he calls a skull or is there just a hamster named Hamburg running the whole show. Also, you know who enjoyed Twilight, Dobbo? Stupid fuckin' tweens who are uglier or fatter than sin combined with single mothers and housewives who haven't gotten laid since the 80's.
 

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Someone mentioned all magical girl anime and Dobson got really pissy about it. “WHAT ANIME? WHO IN PARTICULAR?”
He reblogged a post comparing a scene from Indiana Jones to a Captain Marvel scene and why it means men are sexist.
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Now I haven’t seen Captain Marvel, but I’m going to assume that guy isn’t just some random henchmen and is actually involved in the movie. Which isn’t an apt comparison.
It's actually a little worse than that in context.

See, this isn't just the main villain; he's also supposed to be her teacher. And throughout the film, one reoccurring aspect between them is that Jude Law always bests Captain Mehvel in physical combat, causing Meh to always fall back on her powers to win. Jude Law warns her multiple times that this is a terrible tactic in the long run as it's basically her using her powers as a crutch, that she's way too impatient as a fighter and that she should learn more self control instead.

If this were a normal movie, that would be the lead-in for Captain Marvel to learn this lesson over the course of the movie and thus able to best Jude Law. Instead not only does Meh give us a lackluster anti-climax, but she accidentally prove Jude Law right in that she's nothing without her powers.

Kinda also explains why Dobson's so adamant about defending her: they're both lazy and complacent where they heavily rely on "innate" talent rather than improving themselves.
What makes it even worse is that it's like captain Marvel refuses any kind of meaningful development with this move. Antagonist teacher could've been more than a 2 dimensional villain. There could've been some kind of respect he felt towards Marvel despite them standing on different sides. This could've been an emotionally loaded final fight showing how far Marvel had come and how bad guy teacher is forced to accept it but also respect it.
Instead, lol fuck you I'll oneshot you. And after that she makes it look as if she's gonna help him to get up only to drag him through the desert by his hand and send him off with as much disrespect as possible. This isn't a character, it's a living "YOU GO GIRL".
 

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Really? Really, Dobson?
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He should have just summarized the message to say, "If you disagree with me, then you're sexist.", since it conveys the same message as well as being intellectually honest with the audience.
This is coming from someone who enjoyed Captain Marvel, as it seemed to better than the most Marvel films in recent memory, barring Logan (2017) and Spider-man: Into The Spider-verse (2018.).
 

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