No, i think i made it clear that just because something can be done in nature doesn't mean its natural. Since humans are part of nature. Doesn't mean everything humans do is natural. I believe that animals are moral equals to humans and have the ability to be morally good or morally evil stemming from their own free will choices. thus their actions that are immoral are by definition unnatural. all things that are immoral are unnatural.So you would approve of someone raping a live frog as a sexual aid because monkeys do it in nature? You support fratricide and fillicide along with the general violence and rape that occur regularly in the "nature world"? What is natural Andrew? Please don't define it as "things I like", again.