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Good evening kiwis, as a long time lurker on these forums I believe I may have finally found a way to give back in the form of a thread about a nutcase community of dog abusers I've been observing for some time. Readers of medical-oriented threads such as the munchies or crunchy babies may find this read interesting, I think we're due for a veterinary thread.
This OP began highlighting several corners of fucked up dog breeding (breeds not discussed in the OP are also welcome for discussion) but it quickly became apparent that one group of people is considerably more thread worthy than the rest. There’s quite a bit to sift through and I will try my best to TL;DR but there's so many shady practices occurring at once there's a lot to get through. Very image heavy so most is under spoilers, forgiveness in advance for any formatting errors I'm new to posting.
Let me introduce you to the pyramid scheme of exotic bullies.
PART 1: WHAT THE FUCK IS AN EXOTIC BULLY?
Have you ever thought to yourself: "what if lowriders were dogs?" If you have more than three brain cells you probably haven't had this thought, others aren't so fortunate. Simply put Exotics are the newest flavor of the American Bully, which themselves are the newest iterations of pit bulls. generally all of them share some key traits:
TYPE: Smorgasbord pit bull-type dogs with huge heads descended from pits, American bully, and micros have some bulldog or frenchie blood in them too. Since these breeds aren’t officially recognized by any of the major kennel clubs they’ve gone underground, made their own clubs/expos, and you’ll see dogs of all shapes and sizes being called exotics. This dive is specifically focused on the mini strains of bullies since the large dogs aren't falling apart...yet.
this is the desired silhouette of a micro bully
this one looks shooped but still this is seriously the look they're going for
derp
rip shoulder
suffering
a frog
who thinks this is good??
you can land a plane on that fivehead
this one looks shooped but still this is seriously the look they're going for
derp
rip shoulder
suffering
a frog
who thinks this is good??
you can land a plane on that fivehead
CHOPPED EARS: For anyone out of the loop, these dogs are born with floppy ears and have them cut off at several weeks old. The procedure has no benefits and is purely cosmetic. Seriously america ban this shit already.
THE OWNERS: The people who breed and keep these frogs are wannabe gangsters who constantly flex their dogs and incomes and post dumb entrepreneur motivational shit on ig. They love to call themselves the CEO of their kennels and calling their litters "productions" as if they're fucking mixtapes. They type like idiots spamming fire emojis and the words STRUCTURE and QUALITY while the dogs they're holding up are barely compatible with life, love making "fuck off haterz" posts.
how lovely
you should take your own advice
"push ups"
mode: albert einstein
why do they all type this way
damn those hatters
flexing upon flexing
puppy died..... GIVEAWAY TIME
you should take your own advice
"push ups"
mode: albert einstein
why do they all type this way
damn those hatters
flexing upon flexing
puppy died..... GIVEAWAY TIME
STUPID TERMINOLOGY: The less these frogs look like a dog, the more “exotic” it becomes. Exotic breeders have some very specific terms for ways of fucking up a dog. A dog with a huge
word salad
RIDICULOUS NAMES: These dogs can have some of the fucking funniest pedigree names
foreshadowing
HEALTH NIGHMARES: If you so much as look at these dogs the wrong way they'll croak. Anyone stupid enough to shovel out 10k for one of these things will probably be looking at another 10k in vet bills over the dogs' below average lifespans to keep them from falling apart, but more on that later.
Many of these bully breeders also specialize in frenchies and english bulldogs as part of their grift because ever since the coof they have skyrocketed in popularity, but all fall under the label of "bully" breeds. Specifically these people have created "exotic" versions of these bulldogs too because god knows a standard bred bulldog isn't already allergic to being alive
The pyramid scheme:
As you browse the thousands of #exoticbully posts on ig something starts becoming very clear: very few photos of these dogs are pets. Nearly all of them are owned by breeders and simply get passed around between other breeders for thousands upon thousands of dollars. Once it can't be passed around locally they can get sold to gullible Chinese or South Korean breeders where the bully scene is also big. It's very clear that the ‘dog game’ has become the hot new hustle that's much less dangerous than any illicit trafficking. There are now hundred of backyard bully kennels all continuously churning out bully, frenchie, and bulldog puppies (I’ve even heard anecdotally that the mafia are now using frenchie puppies as currency). Essentially the grift is that several successful breeders at the top brag about their 6 figure incomes, promoting the bully breeder lifestyle to anyone else that wants to get rich quick in hopes the suckers will buy a 10k puppy from them or a 5k vial of dog cum to begin their own kennels.
Did I just say dog cum? yes I did.
PART 2: THE DOG CUM CARTEL
Besides the puppies, the second product these bully breeders push is dog cum. I mean a LOT, and they really like taking pictures of it. Once these dogs are physically capable of producing semen they are wanked regularly before even reaching full growth. Unlike any breeder with morals who waits until a dog is fully grown to be assessed for soundness as a stud, these people begin milking 7 month old puppies.
SIX MONTHS OLD
A business tactic you’ll see in the cum cartel is the opportunity to ‘lock in’ a stud where you pay an early bird price for jizz when the puppy is still 4 months old because once he reaches 6 months his cum will cost an extra 2k! I’ve looked around AI circles in other animal breeding like racehorses but to my knowledge this lock-in grift is a bully exclusive. Add in flash sales, giveaways, and ENDLESS dog cum advertising on instagram and these people are desperately trying to pimp out their dogs. Everyone's stud is the "the best stud in the game" and YOU are missing out on an opportunity because they'll close their studbooks soon so better invest NOW NOW NOW!!
7 THOUSAND DOLLAR CRIPPLE DOG NUT
giveaway!!
Even the Bully dog show is extremely different to a standard KC show, instead being much more like a reptile expo. Breeders set up booths for their kennels and do....whatever the hell this is in hopes of making $$$.
There’s nothing inherently wrong with AI, it can be a great tool. what is fucked is that most exotic bullies are physically incapable of breeding naturally and most of this is all done in-house. for several grand you can buy your own sperm counter machine and equipment for progesterone testing. Many such canine fertility clinics have sprung up to service bully breeders and currently none are being regulated as these pieces of shit LARP being veterinarians.
a helping hand
what makes these price tags fucking insane is that all these dogs are crippled, deformed, and defective.
PART 3: ABSOLUTE GENETIC DISASTERS:
You’ll be hard pressed to find a single sound joint in these dogs’ bodies, their backsides are consistently shot and they waddle around like frogs dragging their sorry dicks or teats on the floor. there’s several videos of dogs whose back ends just give out and they collapse with minimal effort. Some faults are clearly evident from just the videos (remember dogs in these videos are breeding material)
Notable conditions include:
BOAS: the squished face condition that makes it impossible for these dogs to breathe. It's not just the shortness of the nose that affects airways, recently it's been discovered that thickness of head and neck also exacerbates breathing issues, something bully breeders are actively trying to breed into their dogs. It was pretty difficult to find these videos since most are muted or blast rap music to conceal the awful sounds of their dog’s failing airways. The fact they hide it means somewhere in their small brains they know this is wrong. Surgery can open the airways a bit and ease the dog's suffering but despite racking in thousands thanks to their dogs, none of them will take their prize stud in to get corrective BOAS surgery (probably because the vet will push for adding a neutering while the dog is under).
This inability to breathe also limits panting AKA the dogs' thermoregulation. I wish I had it archived but someone's prized bulldog stud snuck outside while people were hanging out laundry to dry and by the time he was found he was already past the point of no saving from heatstroke and died.
EVERYTHING MOVES PERFECTLY, I SAID IT SO ITS TRUE
textbook dysplasia, look at the jut in those legs
wtf
nothing about this looks badass
AWFUL gait
what angle are those hind legs on
although the floor is wet here the grey puppy is struggling a lot more than the rest
this bitch is missing an entire joint in her legs
it's our friend Al-Qaeda!
the way this dog moves is horrifying
dragging your stomach on the floor
didn't know where else to put this but FROG
it's our friend Al-Qaeda!
the way this dog moves is horrifying
dragging your stomach on the floor
didn't know where else to put this but FROG
Bitches are continuously cut open and sewn shut (sometimes even the AI is done surgically, a practice banned in several countries over welfare concerns) as if they exist to be living lootboxes that hopefully pull the rarest colors. at least they go the vet for the C-sections... usually.
RAMPANT INBREEDING: What really makes bully breeders amazing to watch is just how unapologetic they are with their abuses, usually nobody brags about the amount of inbreeding they do but here it’s a status symbol. Anyone who knows breeding 101 has heard of the dangers of the popular sire effect, when a stud is so overrepresented in the gene pool it can open the floodgates to disaster for the entire breed (for instance Bernese have suffered tremendously once popular sires fathered most litters). Well in the exotic toy bully world there’s three studs who appear in almost all pedigrees : IB's Bape, Mr.Miagi, and Bullsace
The Frogfathers
This stud has already fathered 100 litters in under one year!!
If you’re looking for extreme
June 2020, Mamasita is 4 months old
Mamasita is off Bipolar and Rocksteady
December 2020, Mamasita is 10 maybe 11 months when she is bred
Not sure what happened there weren't any follow ups, but earlier this year Mamasita was bred to her father
So was her sister
And her father was bred to his mother
And....niece I think?
chromosonal clusterfuck.
Mamasita is off Bipolar and Rocksteady
December 2020, Mamasita is 10 maybe 11 months when she is bred
Not sure what happened there weren't any follow ups, but earlier this year Mamasita was bred to her father
So was her sister
And her father was bred to his mother
And....niece I think?
chromosonal clusterfuck.
PART 4: ???
Personally my biggest mystery is just what happens to these dogs after their five minutes of fame. No doubt they're pimped out at such a young age as a race against the clock before failing health finally catches up with these poor dogs, and since the breed is so new with no major bully club conducting any health/cause of death surveys we don't know much about their lifespan or outlook. The oldest stud I've seen is 7 which genuinely shocked me, I haven't seen any photos of visibly elderly bullies anywhere. Since breeders only care about the hustle dogs are discarded once they can't turn a profit to make room for new or better dogs. Since semen can be frozen a deceased dog can still turn a profit if he was wanked enough in advance. Occasionally one gets chucked into the SPCA which is always a treat because their adoption writeups actually don't lie and give an honest blurb on the dog's health..
BONUS: OTHER TRASHY BEHAVIOUR
being done god knows where while someone wears long acrylic nails. very safe.
TALONS
TALONS
mystery chinese drugs, they'll never name the meds they're promoting
lol they put english stickers on them now
green goo panacea that can cure parvo and pyometra
lol they put english stickers on them now
green goo panacea that can cure parvo and pyometra
fivehead
if this is pick of the litter I'm scared what the rest look like
thriving
LIL STEWIE
your hydrocephalus has a dog attached to it
if this is pick of the litter I'm scared what the rest look like
thriving
LIL STEWIE
your hydrocephalus has a dog attached to it
how to take your own dog's blood! (is this even legal in USA? In the UK this is practicing without a license and very illegal.)
he's also got a video on how to give sick dogs fish antibiotics
he's also got a video on how to give sick dogs fish antibiotics
lol shopped teeth
If you've made it this far without going full MOTI congrats, here's some palette cleanser bullies to heal your soul and prove I'm not just an evil breed haturr
So, do you know anyone who bought one of these frogs or a cute widdle frenchie puppy from one of these breeders? Or perhaps you're a vet who's had to treat one of these creatures. What happened to them? I'd love to hear more firsthand accounts of these dogs since (powerlevel) I'm not in an area with many bullies around nor am I myself a vet, so I'd love some licensed input. I hope you kiwis found this interesting or at least a good waste of 10 minutes because I've lost all faith in the human race while archiving this shit. There's a ton I left out especially with english bulldogs and frenchies but I'm planning future spotlights.
