Animated Atrocities Animated Atrocities #83: YouTube Copyright School -

[Jewelsmakerguy]

Also, aparrently, Youtube limited the amount of time he can use on videos. So Mars Needs Moms is on hold once again.

Why the hell does he even need more than fifteen minutes for that movie anyway? He could easilyl just split the damn thing into two, maybe three parts if he needed to.

Come to think of it, why even do it in the first place? Why do any of his stuff in the first place? Why does he even think anything he does is a good idea?

 

[CMora]

"Or out of maliciousness or paranoia..."

What.

Viacom is not paranoid because someone on the internet puts up videos or makes money off of them. And I have no clue if he's targeting any other companies with that little barb.

BTW, I have never seen the original video until I searched for it. So, is his point about everyone having to watch it after a strike true? (ETA: I asked because I've had videos taken down before and I don't remember seeing a link.)

 

[Swiggity Swooty]

Why the hell does he even need more than fifteen minutes for that movie anyway? He could easilyl just split the damn thing into two, maybe three parts if he needed to.

Come to think of it, why even do it in the first place? Why do any of his stuff in the first place? Why does he even think anything he does is a good idea?

Considering his shoddy editing, he probably doesn't realize that he should at least try to cut down his videos to a reasonable length.
And then there's the fans who constantly whine to him whenever a bad episode or show comes out so I assume they're the main ones convincing that making these are a good idea. It would explain his attitude, at least.

So, is his point about everyone having to watch it after a strike true?

From what I know, Youtube sends people a link to the video whenever something gets taken down because of copyright. Though I don't know if they still do this nowadays.

 

[StateOfMind]

Who makes a 12 minute video reviewing a 3 minute video? Well, I can kinda see why, all he does is whine about shit that has nothing todo with the original video.

 

[Jewelsmakerguy]

Who makes a 12 minute video reviewing a 3 minute video? Well, I can kinda see why, all he does is whine about shit that has nothing todo with the original video.

I remember when it was still prevalent that the Commentary Community did such a thing. And I know I'm getting off track here, but that's kinda what Enter's videos (as a whole) remind me of. Sloppy editing, tangents that go nowhere, talking about videos older than what he should be going after, poor production quality, heavy doses of autism...

It just hurts to think about it.

 

[Headbanger General]

Jesus, Mr. Enter is grasping at straws like a drowning man, he is. I couldn't even make it through the video; his constant bitching and moaning about the teensiest little detail as if it were some grievous sin actually made me yell, "SHUT UP!" aloud. Also, he doesn't make any money off of his videos? I'm gonna go out on a limb here and say that, given the time he has to throw darts at a wall for GA, watch cartoons, and make his videos, he isn't gainfully employed. If that's the case, he's lucky to have grandparents who'll board his freeloading ass.

 

[Bertram]

To be fair, his reviews are protected under fair use law.

 

[Darwin Watterson]

From what I know, Youtube sends people a link to the video whenever something gets taken down because of copyright. Though I don't know if they still do this nowadays.

I don't think they've done that for several years. Back in 2012-ish I got something taken down for copyright (I uploaded full movies) and I never got a link to it. I dunno.

 

[Reverend_Lovejoy]

There's an irony here. If he ever succeed with Growing Around he'll probably enforce copyright laws. Unless he thinks that he can make money by having people share his episodes online, promoting the episodes and generating interest for his show, then making money with merchandise sales. Which is like how musicians seem to have an idea that they can live their lives giving their music away for free and living off of t-shirt sales. The difference is that it costs much more time, money and effort to animate a cartoon than it does to record and write a few songs.

 

[Long Sun]

Wait Mr. Enter is a lawyer who is a expert on Copyright law ??? Because he basicly gives legal advice on copyright ? Here my question was the Happy Tree Friends show made as any but tonge in check I mean the voice over is basically a classic 50's education video voice

 

[Clay Claymore]

Let me ask you guys a question (because I know that you guys are total copyright experts). Now MrEnter and his fanboys likes to claim that his videos fall under "Fair Use." However, doesn't the fact that MrEnter is getting money from his Patreon means he is getting a profit off these videos and thus is technically committing copyright infringement?

 

[MrsFrizzle]

There isn't a bright-line standard for "fair use" in US copyright law. Which is ridiculous, of course, but true.

And as a private business, YouTube can enforce even stricter standards of infringement than would hold up in a court case. Which they do, IMO, and it's pretty jackassy of them, but the fact remains that it's their sandbox.

You can get paid for an original work that includes "fair use" quotation/excerpts. That is specifically not a copyright violation under US law. However, my guess is that the benchmarks for excerpting video are even vaguer than the benchmarks for quoting text, so Enter et al. don't actually know if his excerpts meet "fair use" standards.

 

[Long Sun]

All I will say about the legal side of this (I work no were near copyright) is that Youtube is wise to over-enforce, because Youtube as host would like be liable for the copyright having a strong policy help cover them and shift liability to the poster. If Fox was to sue over Family Guy in an "Animated Atrocity" clips they would sue Mr. Enter(who likely does not have any money ) but would also sue Youtube for allowing them to be posted and because Youtube has money lots of it and the Job of a good Civil litgator is to get at a party with lots of money(also remember it cost alot to defend this suit even if they are nothing suits)

 

[Clay Claymore]

Alright, so I actually sat down and watched Enter's "review" of the "YouTube Copyright School" video. I don't think there's enough to justify making an entire video about, but I do have some thoughts.

• As some people pointed out, the original YCS video was about four-minutes. Why would anyone make a "review" that's three times as long?! It's ridiculous.
• MrEnter's sound editing is horrible. To me, this was the biggest issue I had with his video. There were a few moments when he cuts himself off too-early or too-late (i.e. "I just thought you ought-"). Seriously, he wants to make a cartoon series and he's making amateurish mistakes like that?
• Of course, there was the usual nitpicking and overly-anal analysis.
• "It's Happy Tree Friends. It's not their place to be teaching people about YouTube copyright." You know what, I actually agree with that? I mean, "Happy Tree Friends" teaching people about YouTube copyright. That's just stupid. That's like if some guy who thinks he can write for a T.V. show because he bitches about the same five cartoons over and over again made a video about YouTube copyright.
  
  Wait a minute...

So yeah, those are my thoughts watching this video. It's a shame that I was unable to make an actual response video about it, but I just didn't think it would have turned out any good.

 

[Ferls]

I'm watching the video, and he gets upset about how "YouTube is more upset about their own rules being broken than the felony of recording in a theatre".
That's literally what that piece was about though. Explaining the fact that it is against the law. He seems to think that copyright is not a legal matter and is a construct of YouTube.
He's also upset that they say "it may be copyright infringement", saying it's confusing and poorly worded. But isn't it true? Other people's content varies in its copyright permissions. It sounds to me like Enter is more upset at the prospect of having to actually investigate a work's copyright permissions for himself.
And he made a deal over the top 100 most subscribed containing many VEVO channels, and thus not being original content...

And for someone who talks up knowing your audience and shit, he sure doesn't do much to explain the context of this video. I imagine that a lot of his viewers aren't content creators who have gone through the copyright system a lot, but he sure doesn't elaborate on the parts of it he discusses.

This video is exactly what I expected it would be. He spends only a fraction of a time actually criticizing the video. He uses it as a scapegoat so he can ramble about his own experience and opinions on the law.
I can't even follow along with this video, especially with his spergy screaming. There's just so, so much wrong in this video that it's making my head hurt.

 

[A Ghost]

Also, aparrently, Youtube limited the amount of time he can use on videos. So Mars Needs Moms is on hold once again.

yeah if you get a copyright strike youtube takes away being able to post over 15 mins unless you are a big name then it doesn't matter
edit i watched some of the video (i really can't take enters voice for longer then a few mins) and he says something about the biggest youtuber being a let's player and dealing with copyright but not really game companies don't really care about people using there game footage unless your nintedo

 

[NostalgiaJazzAdmirer]

Let's be honest here, that YouTube Copyright School video sucked, always has and always will.

 

[Simplicity111]

Let's be honest here, that YouTube Copyright School video sucked, always has and always will.

I honestly have to agree with that. There was a lot of wrong and/or clueless info led by Youtube.

 

[Headbanger General]

yeah if you get a copyright strike youtube takes away being able to post over 15 mins unless you are a big name then it doesn't matter
edit i watched some of the video (i really can't take enters voice for longer then a few mins) and he says something about the biggest youtuber being a let's player and dealing with copyright but not really game companies don't really care about people using there game footage unless your nintedo

Really, what he needs to understand is that Google has but a few thousand employees, yet YT hosts billions of hours' worth of videos and gains 300 more per day. Ex-fucking-scuse them for taking a few weeks to get back to King Enter I, king of the Enterverse, duke of Dew Mountain, title claimant of Spergmaster-General of the Internet, Beef of Wellington, and involuntary virgin for life (I don't believe that asexuality crap of his for a New York second).

 

[Trilby]

I don't think they've done that for several years. Back in 2012-ish I got something taken down for copyright (I uploaded full movies) and I never got a link to it. I dunno.

I had this happen to me but had to see this vid.