Kind of reminds me of the Elian Gonzalez case.
I know, really dating myself with that reference.
I know, really dating myself with that reference.
"It's illegal to knowingly donate AIDS blood"CA reduced giving someone AIDS from a felony to a misdemeanor, which is exceptional, but it's still illegal to knowingly donate AIDS blood.
Its still a crime to fuck people and give them AIDS, but CA's exceptional legislators reduce the severity of the crime under the logic that potentially infected dudes would avoid getting tested because they didn't want to be open to a felony conviction by becoming criminally liable once they officially knew their HIV status. Making it a misdemeanor (in theory) should make them more willing to get tested and pursue medical resources due to less fear of criminal punishment."It's illegal to knowingly donate AIDS blood"
"It's legal for someone to fuck you without telling you they have AIDS"
Are you trying to wipe out everyone but your Hollywood ponies and Beverly Hills socialites, Cali? course you are.
Part of the problem is that there really isn't a middle ground solution in a situation like this. The child's fever of 105 demanded that the child receive immediate extraction.Idc vax or antivax, my question here is why the fuck are they sending a SWAT team? Even if you want to call this child abuse, which would be a bit of a reach, I'm pretty sure they don't send SWAT teams to every case of child abuse, especially over a fever. As if the kids weren't psychologically damaged enough, bunch of angry dudes with guns breaking into their house sure is gonna help their mental health.
It's the same way atheists came to be seen as exceptional, they're hunting down dumb people to hit with the stick of "Knawledge" so they can feel smaht.Anti-anti-vaxxers (that is, people who sperg about anti-vaxxers, not just normal people who think vaccines work) are just as exceptional, and a lot more smug and self-righteous about it.
The doctor thought the kid might have had meningitis - for those of you who are unfamiliar with it, it has something like an 80% mortality rate untreated and a 20% mortality rate even with treatment. It is also highly contagious.Part of the problem is that there really isn't a middle ground solution in a situation like this. The child's fever of 105 demanded that the child receive immediate extraction.
Sending 2 officers in a car is not really enough to safely extract the kid from the parents in this case. I am not sure what the exact illness is, but likely it isn't a standard flu. Meaning that unless the cops are willing to send in a group of 6 officers or in this case a full blown swat team; it is not likely to extract the kid without some type of conflict with the parents. Also depending on the illness, there is a need for skin cover on the people involved. Meaning, it also requires more than a normal patrol officer can handle. Paramedics are going to be a must.
Most parents, even the nutty ones in this case, won't willingly give up their toddler to police officers. Choosing between going light and going in heavy; it is clear the police chose going in heavy. Excessive, but sadly the local PD wasn't prepared for this and l would argue the parents made this an inevitable event.
Also keep in mind we are in the middle of a Measles Outbreak in other parts of the world and it is filtering over here. Sadly expect more instances of events like this when the parents are uncooperative. Right now according to the CDC in the past 3 months, we have almost as many cases as 2018 for almost the entire year. The expectation of an outbreak in the US is increasing.
I would be very interested to know what the exact illness the child had.
You hit the nail on the head. And it's not just about vaxines, flat earthers for examples, or whatever other crazy thing some people believe in nowadays. Yes they're most probably kooks, but doubting the status quo is not inherently a bad thing. What if the earth really was flat? What if vaccines really turned frogs gay? People would rather take advantage of these opportunities to sound like smartasses than actually ask themselves if there's any merit in what these people think, much like euphoric atheists.I guess what I'm trying to say is that anti-vaxxers are usually stupid and wrong but it's not inherently stupid to ask questions about this kind of thing.
I missed that section facepalm , although this actually explains something. I think it is quite possible that the police did think it might be Measles or Mumps related because they can both lead to Meningitis as a complication:The doctor thought the kid might have had meningitis - for those of you who are unfamiliar with it, it has something like an 80% mortality rate untreated and a 20% mortality rate even with treatment. It is also highly contagious.
Of course it turned out the kid just has the flu or whatever, but I don't blame the doctor for pulling out all the stops.
https://www.meningitis.org/getmedia/96875046-bc9c-4311-a986-b5cd0b6dba3b/MMR-April-2012Mumps causes fever, headache, muscle aches, tiredness, loss of appetite, and swollen salivary glands. Complications can include swelling of the testicles or ovaries, deafness, inflammation of the brain and/or tissue covering the brain and spinal cord (encephalitis/meningitis) and, rarely, death.
So yeah, I am sure they(police and social workers) were actually concerned about it being connected to Mumps or Measles. The MMR shot has been instrumental in reducing the known cases of Meningitis among children connected to Measles or Mumps. With the outbreaks happening in other states, they may have believed the kid was suffering from other sicknesses related to not getting vaccinations.Before MMR vaccine was introduced, mumps was the main cause of viral (or aseptic) meningitis – about 1,200 people (mainly children) in the UK were hospitalised each year with mumps 2 . Most of these cases had meningitis. Mumps was also the most frequent cause of viral encephalitis. Measles encephalitis occurs in approximately 1 in 1000 cases of measles infection 3 and can be fatal. Since the introduction of MMR in 1988, mumps and measles meningitis and encephalitis have virtually been eliminated.