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A shocking video shows the moment Arizona police forced themselves into a home to remove an unvaccinated toddler who had a 105-degree fever.

In the video, the officers from the Chandler Police Department are seen kicking down a door to the home with their guns drawn and holding what appeared to be a police shield as they entered with caution.

The officers were at the home to remove the two-year-old boy after a doctor reported his family to the Arizona Department of Child Safety (DCS).

The doctor feared that the child had meningitis, when he actually had an upper respiratory infection.
It's worth noting to people ahead of time before they get into a "muh freedoms" argument that meningitis is a nightmarish disease that is extremely contagious and if you get it, you can die within hours. If you get treatment you have a 10-15% chance of dying and a 1 in 5 chance of suffering from brain damage that leads to blindness, deafness or epilepsy.
 

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It's worth noting to people ahead of time before they get into a "muh freedoms" argument that meningitis is a nightmarish disease that is extremely contagious and if you get it, you can die within hours. If you get treatment you have a 10-15% chance of dying and a 1 in 5 chance of suffering from brain damage that leads to blindness, deafness or epilepsy.
One the one hand I'm glad the kid will (hopefully) live because they gave him the vaccination. On the other hand anti-vaxxers are never gonna shut up about that "Vaccination checkpoint" meme after this.
 

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One the one hand I'm glad the kid will (hopefully) live because they gave him the vaccination. On the other hand anti-vaxxers are never gonna shut up about that "Vaccination checkpoint" meme after this.
They need to not only do that but have a uniform with like a fucking Illuminati pyramid on the helmet and tattoo 666 on your forehead if they catch you.
 

Buster O'Keefe

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Am I being exceptional, or is this story 'Unqualified herbal medicine guy reports family to police for kid having flu, fucking SWAT! team snatches kid, kid gets better because it was fucking flu'? Because that's what it looks like. According to the report, the fever broke so the parents made the call that he would be OK. I think anti-vaxxers are full of shit, but this case sure does supply ammo to paranoid parents who don't trust the medical profession or the state.
 
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Am I being exceptional, or is this story 'Unqualified herbal medicine guy reports family to police for kid having flu, fucking SWAT! team snatches kid, kid gets better because it was fucking flu'? Because that's what it looks like. According to the report, the fever broke so the parents made the call that he would be OK. I think anti-vaxxers are full of shit, but this case sure does supply ammo to paranoid parents who don't trust the medical profession or the state.
Even if it was the Flu it can easily turn life threatening in children especially if the report of a 105 degree fever was true. Parents refused to allow police (and DCS maybe, not clear) into the house to carry out wellness check on the child, What other choice was there at that point?
 

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Am I being exceptional, or is this story 'Unqualified herbal medicine guy reports family to police for kid having flu, fucking SWAT! team snatches kid, kid gets better because it was fucking flu'? Because that's what it looks like. According to the report, the fever broke so the parents made the call that he would be OK. I think anti-vaxxers are full of shit, but this case sure does supply ammo to paranoid parents who don't trust the medical profession or the state.
105 degree fever is immediate brain damage territory. You fucking die from that, sometimes within hours.
 

Buster O'Keefe

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Even if it was the Flu it can easily turn life threatening in children especially if the report of a 105 degree fever was true. Parents refused to allow police (and DCS maybe, not clear) into the house to carry out wellness check on the child, What other choice was there at that point?
105 degree fever is immediate brain damage territory. You fucking die from that, sometimes within hours.
Fair points. I'll file this under 'even more reasons why I shouldn't babysit your kids'
 

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I didn't see this posted earlier, but Rockland NY imposed a curfew on unvaccinated children from public places due to a measles outbreak. It's a shame to see it come to this, but if a curfew backed by law enforcement is the only mechanism capable of preventing an infectious disease from being spread, then it doesn't seem unreasonable to force potential carriers to remain out of public places. Hopefully this is a trend that gains traction in other places.

https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/investigations/2019/03/08/vaccine-anti-vax-anti-vaxxer-what-change-their-mind-vaccine-hesitancy/3100216002/

Ed Day stood at the podium in the standing-room-only media room and touched three third rails of political discourse, raising calls of anti-Semitism, howls from anti-vaccination groups and pushback from civil libertarians.
The Rockland County Executive declared a state of emergency on Tuesday in Rockland's six-month-long measles outbreak, barring unvaccinated youngsters under 18 from public places for 30 days. Public places include schools, places of worship, shopping centers and restaurants. Parks and outdoor areas are not included.
Those with medical exemptions are not included in the ban.
The declaration, put in force at the stroke of midnight March 27, quickly became an international story, sparking a debate that blends religion, public health and government action.
Day said he saw the declaration as the only tool he had to reverse the measles outbreak’s troubling trajectory, one that could ratchet up considerably with the upcoming Passover and Easter holidays.
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Critics have called the emergency declaration draconian. Day continued to call it "moderate."
"Draconian would have been banning everybody," he said. "Draconian would have been quarantining people. We're not doing that."
Others wondered how it could possibly be carried out. Would people be arrested?
Day said he had spoken with Acting District Attorney Kevin Gilleece.
"He said he would take a moderate approach to this," Day said. "This effort is not meant to act upon what we're allowed to do legally, which is arrest people. We're not looking to do that. This is really educational at this point. But with a firm stroke of the pen doing something that has never been done."
The order holds parents, not children, accountable. Violating the order – bringing an unvaccinated child into a public place – is a misdemeanor, punishable by six months in jail and/or a $500 penalty.
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This ban supersedes an order issued Dec. 5 by Rockland County Health Commissioner Dr. Patricia Schnabel Ruppert that mandated that schools in the 10952 and 10977 ZIP codes with vaccination rates under 95 percent had to ban unvaccinated children from attending.
Under the emergency declaration, no unvaccinated student can attend school, regardless of the school's vaccination rate, Day said.
Nine yeshivas were fined in November for not reporting unvaccinated students. A federal judge denied a temporary injunction to allow unvaccinated students to return to class at the Green Meadow Waldorf School after parents brought a lawsuit against the county.
In a letter sent out to public school parents late this afternoon, Rockland County BOCES CEO Mary Jean Marsico said that "any individual under 18 and unvaccinated against measles will be barred from public places."
 

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The amount of pro-vaccine propaganda in here SMH

Some Ben Garrison to break the echo chamber effect





Nope. Thiomersal is rarely used in vaccines nowadays and in any event metabolises into ethylmercury which leaves in one's urine (compare and contrast methylmercury which will fuck you up, similarly to how ethanol gets you drunk but methanol sends you blind.) Similarly, you consume DNA all the time. There are still intact DNA molecules in everything you eat which was alive. And to get brain damage from aluminium you'd have to inject a whole roll of tinfoil.

Daily reminder that it's not propaganda when it's true.

Of course, the alternative is dying of preventable illnesses. Want to see what life was like before vaccines? You'd probably live to the grand old age of died in childbirth.
 
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