Anti-anti-vaxxers megathread -

KiwiLedian

I place my anger firmly on other people
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I understand mistrusting doctors/gubmint, but why is this happening now? Is this another natural selection thing like trannies chemically castrating themselves?
For most, it's misinformation and scare tactics/articles. For example, with the Orthodox Jews in NY, they really don't like listening to the government, town, city, county, state, and even the federal government. They live in highly insular communities and turn their nose to outsiders much of the time. They trust their rabbis closely and because of that, their word is effectively law. So if a rabbi decides that a campaign by NYC and NY state to push for vaccinations is apparently a ruse of the Germans, then the majority in that community will follow along without questioning it.
Orthodox Jewish communities are like Islamic communities only with far less violence and more welfare manipulation.
 

Positron

Ready to explain photosynthesis to Bill Nye
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And Andrew Wakefield, the British doctor whose study linking measles vaccines with autism was widely discredited and condemned, appeared via Skype to offer an almost apocalyptic vision of a world in which vaccines were giving rise to deadlier immunization-resistant diseases.
Immunization-resistant infections are a possibility, but there is no guarantee that these will be deadlier than what we have now -- and measles is a deadly disease.

A good practice to prevent immunization-resistant strains of pathogen arising is to eliminate as much pathogens as we can, and this means more immunization coverage. We are, after all, not currently worrying about immunization-resistant smallpox.
 

Karl_der_Grosse

I'm no saint, and that's my ball and chain.
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Hasidim have raised their own peculiar brand of insular self-centeredness to such an art form that they barely qualify as human anymore. I used to read about eastern european and russian pogroms and think how terrible they were, but after spending time around hasids in New York and elsewhere I've come around to thinking the Cossacks had a good fucking point. Hell, ask literally every other Jew in Israel and they'd be okay with shipping Rebbe Shmuely and his whole band of Shlomos somewhere like Desolation Island.
 

Lissamine Green

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Hasidim have raised their own peculiar brand of insular self-centeredness to such an art form that they barely qualify as human anymore. I used to read about eastern european and russian pogroms and think how terrible they were, but after spending time around hasids in New York and elsewhere I've come around to thinking the Cossacks had a good fucking point. Hell, ask literally every other Jew in Israel and they'd be okay with shipping Rebbe Shmuely and his whole band of Shlomos somewhere like Desolation Island.
I went through the library's collection of memoirs by ex-hasids/haredim a few years ago. Interesting stuff, primarily because it is a total horror show beyond what even a perverted imagination could envision of an insular cult. The anecdote that sticks with me is the newlywed whose colon was ruptured because her ignorant husband couldn't figure out where to stick it and wasn't going to let details like that, or the fact that she was screaming, slow him down on their wedding night. And she didn't even know what exactly she had down there or what sex was until the day of the wedding when her mom and mother in law finally saw fit to enlighten her. Then of course when she's in the hospital recovering he snubs her entirely because she's bleeding and thus not Pure and if he touches her he gets girl cooties. Nice culture.
 

Lissamine Green

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Fuck, I feel old. It was like yesterday when when all the moms in the neighborhood would get the kids together when one of the kids got chickenpox so all of them would get it and be over and done with.
I hated that shit. My brother and I were ambushed by some germ-spewing maniac at daycare and we both got very sick, really bad cases. He got pneumonia from it and had to go to the ER one night. I just had a very high fever and couldn't stand up without falling down for a couple days. Finding out our parents set us up for that misery on purpose made us both incandescently angry.
 

Furina

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Did it not occur to them that maybe the disease is spreading so well within their community because they aren't immunised and hang out with a lot of other people who aren't immunised? I mean, it makes sense to me that if you put one kid with measles in a classroom or playgroup with a bunch of other kids who aren't immune to measles, what you're going to get is a lot of kids with measles. I thought Jews were supposed to have high IQs.
 

streetsweeper

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Measles is legit fucking awful. One of the things that can happen is permanent damage to vision, and when my older relatives had it back in the day they had to basically recuperate in darkened rooms to prevent them from losing their eyesight.

Shirk that vaccine at your peril. (Mumps and Rubella aren't much fun either from what I understand)
Had the vaccine, rolled the lucky die of being one of the 7% still getting it after the first shot. It was fucking itchy, and had red fabric draped over all the lights in my room, but shit, I was up and about after a week. Measels ain't got nothing on mono or really bad flu.
 

Sprig of Parsley

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Did it not occur to them that maybe the disease is spreading so well within their community because they aren't immunised and hang out with a lot of other people who aren't immunised? I mean, it makes sense to me that if you put one kid with measles in a classroom or playgroup with a bunch of other kids who aren't immune to measles, what you're going to get is a lot of kids with measles. I thought Jews were supposed to have high IQs.
To be fair, smart people sometimes do fucking exceptional shit.
 

Male Idiot

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Vaccines have fucking shit profitability compared to a lot of other pharmaceuticals. I'd wager money is made hand over fist from psychotropics.
True but if I have to powerlevel here, happy merchants can and will argue with you about around... 7 cents USD. Every shekel matters.

(It was about an exchange rate rounding process where a charge was rounded up from 0.8 to 1.0 and they went nuclear on me)
 
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AnOminous

do you see what happens
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I hated that shit. My brother and I were ambushed by some germ-spewing maniac at daycare and we both got very sick, really bad cases. He got pneumonia from it and had to go to the ER one night. I just had a very high fever and couldn't stand up without falling down for a couple days. Finding out our parents set us up for that misery on purpose made us both incandescently angry.
Enjoy your shingles because you're going to get that, too.
 

greengrilledcheese

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True but if I have to powerlevel here, happy merchants can and will argue with you about around... 7 cents USD. Every shekel matters.

Those fine people would never conspire to rip people off. That's just antisemetic conspiracy theory talk! Ignore this news from a few days ago.

Leading drug companies including Teva, Pfizer, Novartis and Mylan conspired to inflate the prices of generic drugs by as much as 1,000 percent, according to a far-reaching lawsuit filed on Friday by 44 states.
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...the complaint paints Teva Pharmaceuticals USA, which is based in Pennsylvania, as a leader in the conspiracy...
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The Israeli drugmaker Teva Pharmaceutical Industries is one of the world’s largest manufacturers of generic medicines.
 
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