Anti-Whiteness Among Progressives, Liberals and Leftists - Or why do White liberals hate Whitey so much?

RichardMongler

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Why are western progressives and left-wingers so fiercely anti-White? Whether they're basic bitch liberals who like Bill Maher or The Young Turks or revolutionary leftists who listen to Punk music or Chapo Trap House, both camps are united in their shared contempt for White people. Casual hostility towards even Whiteness itself, much less White people, is extremely common in progressive and leftist discussion spaces. Just look how leftists sneer using the word "White boy" or other such demeaning language only to backpedal when challenged by claiming such terms only refer to "White right-wingers". Tim Wise is especially guilty of this. This is far more common among left-leaning progressives and social liberals (ie: the limousine liberals / gauche caviar) which people like him or Jane Elliott belong to, but the revolutionary left has picked up on these attitudes as well via their anti-imperialism.

It's especially telling among the revolutionary left because they seem less invested in implementing socialism and much more invested in eliminating White political power. This is a stark contrast from the past when leftists used to complain that too many Americans fixate on race relations rather than class struggle. On the other hand, there are those who see race and class as inseparably tied hence the entire theory of intersectionality. There's also the political philosophy of Maoist Third Worldism that states the revolution will come at the hands of the world's poorest and most disenfranchised which precludes everyone in the industrialized world.

It seems the revolutionary leftists who see race as inseparably tied to class struggle won that debate because it appears every relevant leftist in North America assumes White political power and their demographic existence are obstacles to achieving socialism that can only be overcome by disenfranchising, marginalizing and diminishing White ethnic groups by any means necessary in a managed decline. Any White person is identical to the Pied Noir, Haitian French or Ulstermen, all permanent reactionary settler classes that cannot be rehabilitated unless destroyed. The left's hostility to the nuclear family is greatly contextualized when the family is viewed as an extension of Whiteness. The radical left presumes members of White ethnic groups are just the material basis for reaction rather than broad communities of family and loved ones. Thus, Whites are a threat to be neutralized. Everything that comes from leftist cooperation with neoliberal capital is based off the belief that White's very existence is a problem to be solved.

Theodore Kaczynski makes a very interesting case for the psychology of leftism that's quite riveting, and part of it does explain why leftists behave as they do. They're all very conscious of their social standing and want to be accepted for the sake of clout, but as thoughtful as his premise is, I refuse to believe anti-White attitudes have anything to do with self-loathing or feelings of inferiority. People who tend to hate themselves are self-destructive and ultimately dangers to themselves before anyone else. These same self-described radical leftists could be confused liberals who have some sort of misguided kinship with revolutionary leftists as part of their telescopic charity or this could be the closest they can get towards having a real emotion by investing in the revolution as a pet project. This could also be cynical exploitation of social turmoil and betting on one side, hoping that they would be spared the proletariats' collective wrath and be allowed to exist in their society. The reasons are as numerous the individuals themselves, but what matters more is how is all translates into political action, and the acceptance of anti-White attitudes by the left strongly suggests tacit support for anti-Whiteness.

So tell me. Why do you think leftists wanna kill Whitey so much?
 

Tootsie Bear

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I can't speak for colored people, but I always found white leftists, and no, they're not Jewish, to feel both guilty and confused about being white. For example look at the aftermath of the George Floyd's death and how every top book seller list was about anti-racism. However, when anti-racism is a thin line where only whites are racists and any toe out of line will destroy someones life before anyone can contests; the white women in the media calling the police of black men is a good example.

It's a messed up system but it's what the left has created. A SJW Frankenstein Monster.
 

TFT-A9

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What I find to be odd is how most of the anti-white sentiment that I have personally encountered comes from other white people. Most of the non-whites that I have met were simply "along for the ride".
I wouldn't expect non-whites to NOT try and capitalize on something that could benefit them in some fashion, but it's always interesting to me how these guilty whites think this will benefit them in any fashion. If you think displaying contrition (for what exactly?) is what is going to keep the wolves at bay, boy do I have news for you. I think it's more likely that these guilty whites are being led to believe that whites are absolutely fucked if they don't start groveling and scraping before their "betters" or whatever, and they for some reason also believe that appealing to their "betters" good natures and penchant for mercy will see them spared from whatever they were told would happen.
 

TitusVoid

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They see how everything done towards social justice in the last 40 years has failed to improve the state of the general black community in the West and since they can't hold blacks to account for that because its racist to suggest that they are in any way responsible for themselves they blame the people who are the most successful i. e. Whites. If you steadfastly believe that race is a social construct then being White is an evil identity conspiring to hold back blacks. Why else would there be disparity between them and blacks if everyone is born equal?
 

Pokemonquistador2

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White guilt today is what Indulgences were back in the middle ages. A permission slip to be greedy and sinful as long as you make the correct bona fides to the Religion of the Day. Back in the middle ages, a nobleman could buy his way out of Hell via buying an Indulgence, that is, donating a large amount of money or land to the Church. The idea was that the good the noble did by giving to the Church would offset the evil the noble did by murdering a rival, sleeping with his friends' wives, or whatever sin he was seeking absolution for. White Guilt and the call for Reparations is what the white aristocratic class of the modern US do when they want to be absolved of the sin of being rich, greedy bastards who fuck over the Working Class with their economic/corporate policies and rope blacks into the Inner City Welfare Plantation/For Profit Prison System. There's also all that land they own that their ancestors took from the Indians way long ago and which they don't want to give back. The beauty of White Guilt is that Neoliberals and RINOS don't have to give back any of the wealth they hustled, they just have to look really sorry, virtue signal, throw open the doors of the country to let in brown immigrants, and direct government tax money to Dem Programs.

A lot of black people who support White Guilt are, as stated, "going along for the ride." Why not? It's not like you're going to make Drug Dealer or Politician money through honest work in this day and age anyhow...

A lot of poorer white folks who support White Guilt are soycunts like MovieBob who think that parroting Elitest opinions will net them asspats and pussy. A lot of them genuinely loathe themselves like white, neckbearded Uncle Ruckuses. And a lot of them just picked this shit up in colleges where brainwashing white kids into hating their culture and ancestry is common practice.
 

A Cardboard Box

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The American public school system as well as American culture in general, and therefore most of the West, teaches in moral and ethical absolutes instead of realism and the world around us. Everyone is a Saturday morning superhero and they have to fight the corresponding cartoon villain. There is no nuance or pragmatism, there is no realpolitik. Racism is bad, the people people that perpetrate it are evil, literally Pontius Pilate tier fucking divinely evil, and white people are the ones that did it, so we must destroy them. If you are white and you don't sign on, you are part of the problem and deserve the same date. If you aren't a hero, you're a villain, in this black and white cartoon world.

This is why they know virtually nothing of the world outside the US, and don't understand most of the world anyway. For instance, try explaining to them the sectarian government of Lebanon where muslims and christians have certain government positions that will always be held by one group or the other, according to their constitution. Same with Bosnia and their rotating presidency between the Serb, Croat, and Bosniak ethnicities. They literally cannot fathom that type of government or why it would exist, so they just ignore it. It is impossible to explain historicity behind these things, or even things here. "No I'm not responsible for slavery, my family were Irish indentured servants owned by an English family in the 17th century." You can't say that because they hate history, and when you cite it they will tell you the historians themselves are racist and therefore cannot be trusted. The only thing we have to rely on is ourselves and our impeccable moral standards.

There's no nuance, there's no room for understanding. After all, aren't good things worth fighting for? Why would we compromise with racists? If the system is racist why don't we destroy it? Why would we reform a racist system? Reforming a racist system just makes something that's very racist a little less racist. Better to just destroy it and build a new one.

This is what they believe, because we are in a cartoon world. You can see this with the incessant virtue signaling in congress. Even those retards fall for it. Notice "the squad" and other frankly childish things our reps do. These people legitimately believe that our republic is under attack by racists and militants and the world is ending because of climate change and this is the most important period and human history and they are STILL PRETENDING TO BE SATURDAY MORNING SUPERHEROS. Think about that. Imagine FDR and Churchill and CDG referred to themselves as "the crew" and made films of them high fiving and talking about how "we're gonna fucking school these Nazi pukes, because we're the fucking crew, bros!"

Tl;dr: clown world.
 

DiddyKongMain1989

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It comes from many sources.
Part is that the supposed experts in race relations are all working from varying degrees of adherence to the same framework. Progressives trust perceived academic consensus more than Catholics trust the Pope. "Whiteness" itself is an academically accepted negative. Think "climate change." Except, where climate change can perceivably be falsified, the racism baked into western society cannot. It's all fairly easy to accept, given America's original sins of slavery and colonization + apparent success of whites. So we're working off "whiteness" as (w/e the current academic word is for) evil. It's important for me to state that this "whiteness" is defined completely separately from actual white people, it's "just" the systems of behavior they learn and propagate. Problem! The human brain does not perceive and associate by academic definition. So what is the obvious conclusion when whiteness is evil, and cannot be seen? Attack the symbols of whiteness. Which is? White skin! So their brains see whiteness and subconsiously associate it with evil. They attack out of the very same subconsious racial attitudes that would be seen as precursors to oppressive action if held against any other group.
 

TFT-A9

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It comes from many sources.
Part is that the supposed experts in race relations are all working from varying degrees of adherence to the same framework. Progressives trust perceived academic consensus more than Catholics trust the Pope. "Whiteness" itself is an academically accepted negative. Think "climate change." Except, where climate change can perceivably be falsified, the racism baked into western society cannot. It's all fairly easy to accept, given America's original sins of slavery and colonization + apparent success of whites. So we're working off "whiteness" as (w/e the current academic word is for) evil. It's important for me to state that this "whiteness" is defined completely separately from actual white people, it's "just" the systems of behavior they learn and propagate. Problem! The human brain does not perceive and associate by academic definition. So what is the obvious conclusion when whiteness is evil, and cannot be seen? Attack the symbols of whiteness. Which is? White skin! So their brains see whiteness and subconsiously associate it with evil. They attack out of the very same subconsious racial attitudes that would be seen as precursors to oppressive action if held against any other group.
Man I'd call that a pretty well engineered system right there, if you think this is all a happy/unhappy accident boy howdy you're likely gonna get to see some really happy accidents over the next decade
 

Kosher Dill

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I think anti-whiteness is just a natural consequence of the white liberal's search for meaning. If you're a leftist with the desire to be "heroic", really the only option open to you is joining up with some social justice movement. Overblown rhetoric to the contrary, there really are no more Nazis to fight or valiant resistance movements to join. And finding meaning by seeking out traditional forms of authority, such as in family life, business, or government, has been devalued across the board but particularly in the eyes of the left.

So you've got to join up with a social justice movement if you don't want that white-knight armor to sit around collecting dust. But if you're a middle-class white in America, you're probably already getting a pretty good helping of justice. You can tinker at the margins with various policies relating to civil liberties if you want, but if you need that rush of heroism, that feeling of mounting the barricades, you're going to have to take up the cause of some marginalized group, which in America is likely to be nonwhite.

But then, particularly in this post-colonial world, the question will immediately arise: "Who asked YOU to take up the white man's burden? Who asked for another white savior?" And so far, the answer to that challenge with the most staying power seems to be "Fair enough, but I'm not like them".
 

ColtWalker1847

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Don't take "whiteness" too literally. This is the word-swap version of purple-haired feminists ranting about "patriarchy". They don't mean men exactly. They mean men being in government and having jobs and shit and using it to oppress women. Because of course they would. They're men.

Well, same thing here. To the intersectional left-wing anti-racist "white" is a system maaaaaaaan. Their big unseen mystical bad guy who brings all the pain and suffering in the world. Tearing it down means tearing down societal systems, like capitalism and police who they see as oppressive, not destroying white people. Well, sometimes.

This all comes from a fundamentally adversarial worldview. One side versus the other, the oppressed and the oppressor, that are in a perpetual state of war for dominance over each other. If their side "wins" then they realign and continue the fight. This, in their fucked up view, will eventually lead to an equitable society. That it will still be at war with itself just now over really minor shit is lost to them.

That this all sounds really Marxist with the class struggle of the proletariat and the bourgeoise, you're right. It's the same thing just with identity rather than class.
 
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