ANTIFA / Antifascist Action / Antifaschistische Aktion - The anti-fascist gang with fascist tendencies

Sissy Galvez

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True. RICO was passed in 1970, but you didn't see the massive federal crackdowns on the Italian Mafia start until the late 1980's and it wasn't until the mid-1990's that the majority of the really high-profile cases were all resolved in court. You still had smaller crackdowns from those investigations continue even into the late 90's and 2000's.

Keep in mind that RICO was passed specifically to target the Italian Mafia and the Five Families and Chicago Outfit were fast-tracked for investigation.

I would not be surprised if the Feds are intensely yet subtly investigating Antifa, although if the incident in Portland continues to spark more outrage from normies and centrists, we're probably going to start seeing some indictments and warrants being issued in the near future, especially if Andy Ngo dies from his injuries.
It takes time to infiltrate, to build trust, to gather evidence, etc. It doesn’t happen overnight and Antifa is a loose group of inbred dumb fucks. I wouldn’t be surprised if the leadership of larger antifa groups like Rose City Antifa aren’t feds or informants.

They think they’re clever and smarter than the feds or alt/right and that they’ve effectively hidden their chats and organizing but they’re wrong. If the feds are keeping tabs on a terrorist living in a cave, why wouldn’t they have eyes and ears on wannabe socialists who reject their upper middle class upbringing and live in a first world country using the latest iphones and laptops?
 

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They think they’re clever and smarter than the feds or alt/right and that they’ve effectively hidden their chats and organizing but they’re wrong. If the feds are keeping tabs on a terrorist living in a cave, why wouldn’t they have eyes and ears on wannabe socialists who reject their upper middle class upbringing and live in a first world country using the latest iphones and laptops?
The reason they haven't gotten these morons is they actually don't want to, at least not yet. It's better to keep them in these ineffectual containment groups where their fucking exceptionalism just attracts others of the same kind. And until they start doing things that are actually dangerous on a large scale, they will be left alone, allowed to funnel idiots into ineffectual bullshit.

There is not some huge woke conspiracy, it is just that these dipshits are possibly the least dangerous activity that the kind of people who would have gotten into the Weather Underground and similar shit in previous generations can be funneled into. If they actually turn dangerous there will just be a mass roundup, much like after shit like the Haymarket Riots.
 

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Maybe I'm just clueless, but why are so many people defending these fuck-wads?

If I was left leaning, I'd be embarrassed that they were on my side of the aisle and would do everything I could to disavow them.
I'm left leaning, but am getting increasingly fed up with the left, and I've been against antifa since shortly after I first heard about them. I don't like political violence, especially when the stakes are so low and when it's accomplishing jackshit. I also find antifa's use of violence and the left's flexible definitions of "fascist" and "Nazi" to be a dangerous combination. If antifa ever did manage to destroy supposed hate groups, they'd immediately turn against leftists who are also guilty of thoughtcrime. According to antifa fuckwads, I'd qualify as a "literal Nazi" because I don't think a man in drag is a woman, and I like my face without a fist in it.

Where's the statistic on kids getting raped? And by who? If it was the border patrol raping kids, we would have heard about it a long time ago.
It's been pretty clear from the reporting I've seen on this that the kids are raping each other. I still hold ICE somewhat responsible for that because it should come as a surprise to nobody what happens when you warehouse sexually mature teenagers with younger kids.
 

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I'm left leaning, but am getting increasingly fed up with the left, and I've been against antifa since shortly after I first heard about them. I don't like political violence, especially when the stakes are so low and when it's accomplishing jackshit. I also find antifa's use of violence and the left's flexible definitions of "fascist" and "Nazi" to be a dangerous combination. If antifa ever did manage to destroy supposed hate groups, they'd immediately turn against leftists who are also guilty of thoughtcrime. According to antifa fuckwads, I'd qualify as a "literal Nazi" because I don't think a man in drag is a woman, and I like my face without a fist in it.
That is how I feel. I am pretty left, but Antifa is a really bad thing to be backing because it doesn't take much for vigilantism to end badly. It happens every fucking time. And, like you said, coupled with the left's very generous definitions of "nazi" and "fascist", it's a bad combo. Not to mention that even if someone is indeed fascist, that doesn't mean they deserve to be assaulted. Not all fascists are nazis. Fascism is not much different than communism.

Not to mention that anyone who says "Antifa is stupid" is automatically labeled a "nazi sympathizer" or something.
 

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That is how I feel. I am pretty left, but Antifa is a really bad thing to be backing because it doesn't take much for vigilantism to end badly. It happens every fucking time. And, like you said, coupled with the left's very generous definitions of "nazi" and "fascist", it's a bad combo. Not to mention that even if someone is indeed fascist, that doesn't mean they deserve to be assaulted. Not all fascists are nazis. Fascism is not much different than communism.
Makes me wonder why "real fascism has never been tried" isn't considered a valid argument to these people. Probably because they don't believe in logic anyway.
 

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That is how I feel. I am pretty left, but Antifa is a really bad thing to be backing because it doesn't take much for vigilantism to end badly. It happens every fucking time. And, like you said, coupled with the left's very generous definitions of "nazi" and "fascist", it's a bad combo. Not to mention that even if someone is indeed fascist, that doesn't mean they deserve to be assaulted. Not all fascists are nazis. Fascism is not much different than communism.

Not to mention that anyone who says "Antifa is stupid" is automatically labeled a "nazi sympathizer" or something.
Pretty early on I criticized antifa and, yeah, that made me a “nazi” which didn’t convince me I was wrong, it just made me think antifa is even more dangerous. Imagine that.
 

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Pretty early on I criticized antifa and, yeah, that made me a “nazi” which didn’t convince me I was wrong, it just made me think antifa is even more dangerous. Imagine that.
Just remember: The official stance of the Democratic Party is that you should "Punch a Nazi," har har har, isn't political violence hilarious? But don't worry, the only possible reason you could object to a violent leftist street militia assaulting random people is if you are, in fact, guilty of the crime of needing to be assaulted.

Dangerous games. I wonder how many Antifa riots will be in Trump's successful 2020 reelection campaign videos?
 

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According to antifa fuckwads, I'd qualify as a "literal Nazi" because I don't think a man in drag is a woman, and I like my face without a fist in it.
And if they like their heads without bullet holes in them they'll eventually learn that their current escalation is a very, very bad idea and will not end well for them.
 

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Makes me wonder why "real fascism has never been tried" isn't considered a valid argument to these people. Probably because they don't believe in logic anyway.
Considering Mussolini's track record, do fascists even make that argument? Couldn't they just talk up that government?
 
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Jaimas

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Watch as some morally bankrupt asshats try to mock his injury or downplay the severity of it.
Twitter already has.

Pretty early on I criticized antifa and, yeah, that made me a “nazi” which didn’t convince me I was wrong, it just made me think antifa is even more dangerous. Imagine that.
Nice of them to ignore that their ideology has the highest body count.
 

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I have my doubts about how effective the current incarnation of AntiFa is.

1. If they do things according to their principles, they have to do everything by committee. So they are crippled from indecision.

2. They don't believe in meritocracy so everyone is doing what they think they are good at, not what they (if anything) actually are good at.

So this recipe leaves them with "mob action" or "lone wolves".

The next incarnation might be smart enough to understand hierarchy and skills are important.
 

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I don't want Antifa to be crushed via violent means
I'm centre-left, and I'm willing to engage in violently crushing them, because they've now gotten to the point where they're openly admitting that people that aren't willing to join their ranks are targets, and threats don't fly with me.

They tried, yes, because they're fucking idiots. Nobody bought it, because it was obviously a stunt. No one shows up for a fight against people with bike locks and batons armed with a trash can lid shield and a pointy stick and expects to be taken seriously. He became a meme (in a good way) and Antifa was mocked for feeling threatened by a guy with a fucking stick.
They'll be mighty unhappy when people with rattan swords and war shields from the SCA combat groups start showing up.

It's because the left have consistently been the aggressors since the 2016 elections and everyone knows it. Up until now the right has displayed incredible restraint in the face of constant antagonism, provocation and straight up violence. I believe that's largely because nobody's actually died from this stupidity yet and there's still a sense that it's best to let these jackasses make fools of themselves so everybody can see how insane they are.

That goes away once Antifa kills somebody. Now they're not just making fools of themselves. They're lethal.
They should have already been acknowledged as being a lethal risk when Dwayne Dixon admitted to chasing James Field, while open-carrying an AR-15.

Another rough thing about those is the possibility of reinjury. The damage mitigation of the skull and brain design has already been bypassed. It wouldn't take something major to fuck him up next.

Not only have they possible killed or crippled him, but they've just fucked up his entire life even if he doesn't show any deficits or have any side effects.
We've repeatedly seen the aftermath of concussions with boxers, football players, and hockey players - it ain't pretty.

Yeah they made a big appearance at the 1999 WTO protests. I dont think they publicly identified as Antifa, but were just called "Black Bloc anarchists" in reports.
I was fine with Jello Biafra and Henry Rollins protesting the WTO, I've never been fine with their degeneration into soy-soaked faggots.
 
Considering Mussolini's track record, do fascists even make that argument? Couldn't they just talk up that government?
Kinda makes you wonder if someone other than Mussolini had been in charge and not joined the war, would fascism be considered an acceptable world ideology, and Nazism chalked up as the dangerous fringe, perhaps in the way leftists think about socialism versus the "fringe" communism.

There might even be a few fascist world governments in that outright call themselves fascists. Certainly an interesting thought, maybe someone should write an alt-history novel on it or something
 

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